Intinction(dipping bread in wine) ; What Baptist do this?

[2win]

This is very troubling to me to do this at communion where we are "supposedly" simulating what took place at The Last Supper with our Lord Jesus Christ; I guess if I were of something other than Baptist, it wouldn't make a difference.

 

[Francis Drake]

There are many conflicting traditions that sap all the meaning out of communion, even causing ex communion!
It really doesn't matter how we do it, as long as we proclaim the death of Jesus. That must not obscured with overbearing procedural rules and regulations.
I believe simplicity is always best and for that reason I tend to take communion in homes rather than church meetings where rigmarole rules the day.

It is almost certain that they dipped the bread in the cup of wine, just as they would most likely have dipped their bread in a shared pot of stew.

Cutlery is a very recent invention. Food was usually scooped up with bread or with the fingers from a common pot. Given that the passover would consist in eating a roast lamb probably with stewed vegetables in a pot, a loaf of bread would be necessary to scoop or hold the food.

In the midst of that meal, Jesus suddenly deviates from the norm as he demonstrates that it is He, not the lamb, that is the real sacrifice. To do so, He replaces the shared lamb with a shared cup of wine and bread that is passed around. It fits that the bread would be dipped in the wine.

Even today it is a common practice in Mediterranean meals to dip bread into wine, or wine and oil.

 

[sfs]

This is very troubling to me to do this at communion where we are "supposedly" simulating what took place at The Last Supper with our Lord Jesus Christ; I guess if I were of something other than Baptist, it wouldn't make a difference.

Why the focus on simulating the Last Supper, anyway, rather than commemorating it? If we were actually simulating it, we would drink wine rather than grape juice (which most Baptists use), eat a full meal, and recline at a table instead sitting in pews -- and there would only be 12 of us in the room.

 

[JoeP222w]

I don't find any command of Jesus in the Bible that you are required to dip bread into wine for the Lord's Supper. That is a tradition of man (does not mean it is wrong to dip, but it is not a command).

 

[Ken Rank]

Why the focus on simulating the Last Supper, anyway, rather than commemorating it? If we were actually simulating it, we would drink wine rather than grape juice (which most Baptists use), eat a full meal, and recline at a table instead sitting in pews -- and there would only be 12 of us in the room.

If we were really doing as he did, we would be doing this at a Passover meal as well.

 

[DeaconDean]

I don't find any command of Jesus in the Bible that you are required to dip bread into wine for the Lord's Supper. That is a tradition of man (does not mean it is wrong to dip, but it is not a command).

Actually, there is one verse:

"And after the sop Satan entered into him. Then said Jesus unto him, That thou doest, do quickly." -Jn. 13:27 (KJV)

While it is not a command, this shows that according to John's tradition, there was a "sop".

God Bless

Till all are one.

 

[Ken Rank]

I don't find any command of Jesus in the Bible that you are required to dip bread into wine for the Lord's Supper. That is a tradition of man (does not mean it is wrong to dip, but it is not a command).

I do not dip.... so what I am saying comes with no bias. You're right, there is no command but the tradition doesn't contradict the command. If the bread represents the body and the wine/juice the blood, then how you ingest it doesn't change the picture. He broke the bread, he held up the glass (blessed both) and consumed. If one dips, it is still bread and wine so what difference does it make? It is just a "picture" commemorating what He did for us, anyway.

 

[sfs]

If we were really doing as he did, we would be doing this at a Passover meal as well.

And speaking Aramaic.

 

[Ken Rank]

And speaking Aramaic.

Baruch atah Adonai Eloheinu melekh ha’olam borei p’ri hagafen.
Blessed are You, Lord our God, Ruler of the universe, who creates the fruit of the vine.

Baruch atah Eloheinu melekh ha’olam hamotzi lechem min ha’aretz.
Blessed are You, Lord our God, King of the universe, who brings forth bread from the earth.

This is what Yeshua (Jesus) would have said over the wine and bread. Jews have been saying this "blessing" since long before he walked the Earth. And when the passages state that messiah "blessed it" this is what he would have said as that blessing.

 

[JoeP222w]

I do not dip.... so what I am saying comes with no bias. You're right, there is no command but the tradition doesn't contradict the command. If the bread represents the body and the wine/juice the blood, then how you ingest it doesn't change the picture. He broke the bread, he held up the glass (blessed both) and consumed. If one dips, it is still bread and wine so what difference does it make? It is just a "picture" commemorating what He did for us, anyway.

I agree, it is irrelevant whether or not one dips the bread, that was my point. It is far more important to remember the Savior Jesus Christ.

 

[2win]

I agree, it is irrelevant whether or not one dips the bread, that was my point. It is far more important to remember the Savior Jesus Christ.

Ok, I thank each of you for your input; It seems to me that Deacon Dean comes very close to my thinking; the only sop mentioned in the Lord's supper was in the dish of bitter herbs, and the dipping pointed out who would betray Jesus; I know communion is only a tradition to a lot of folks; to me it "should be" an emotional time of worshiping our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ.

 

[Dave-W]

If we were really doing as he did, we would be doing this at a Passover meal as well.

I agree with Ken. While imo Paul de-coupled the weekly or monthly communion from any larger meal, it was intrinsic to the Passover Seder. As gentile Christians we are not required to observe Passover, but I believe all Christians would benefit from understanding it.

 

[Ken Rank]

I agree with Ken. While imo Paul de-coupled the weekly or monthly communion from any larger meal, it was intrinsic to the Passover Seder. As gentile Christians we are not required to observe Passover, but I believe all Christians would benefit from understanding it.

One could argue argue that Paul's "therefore, let us keep the Feast" would suggest observing it as a non-Jew was something he saw as beneficial.

 

[Dave-W]

One could argue argue that Paul's "therefore, let us keep the Feast" would suggest observing it as a non-Jew was something he saw as beneficial.

I agree. But when he wrote about one being drunk while others starved, he separated the celebrations.