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Discussion in 'Controversial Christian Theology' started by frogoon234, May 14, 2019 at 4:45 PM.

  1. 1stcenturylady

    1stcenturylady Spirit-filled follower of Christ Supporter

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    Jesus fulfilled the Old Covenant. His last words were, "It is finished." We have now entered the New Covenant that will last forever.
     
  2. frogoon234

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    He said it is finished because he was finished pay for our sins. Heaven and earth didn't pass away and it still hasn't passed away. It is beneficial to the christian not imperative to follow the old testament. It will not effect whether you go to heaven or not if we don't follow the old testament.
     
  3. 1stcenturylady

    1stcenturylady Spirit-filled follower of Christ Supporter

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    Read Matthew 5 again, and see how He changed His Father's commandments. It went from mere action, to the deeper elements of the heart.
     
  4. 1stcenturylady

    1stcenturylady Spirit-filled follower of Christ Supporter

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    So do you believe if you sin, it doesn't matter because Jesus paid for that sin?
     
  5. frogoon234

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    I don't see it in that chapter dismissing the old testament completely. All it is doing in that passage is emphasizing the more important elements out of the old testament such as "your heart shall not be above your brother", "have no other god's before God" and "love your neighbor as yourself"
     
  6. frogoon234

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    why do you ask?
     
  7. frogoon234

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    I believe we should ask for forgiveness
     
  8. 1stcenturylady

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    Because all you said was Jesus paid for your sins, and we don't have to follow the Old Testament. But that is where the laws are you want to follow.
     
  9. frogoon234

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    I never said i wanted to follow the old testament law. However the new testament says "the sabbath (4th commandment) was made for men". Its just being practical. We do benefit in the long run from obeying the old testament to some extent or on some level (1st Corinthians chapter 3). We are not required to obey the old testament to maintain our salvation. I'm not going to get into NOSAS/OSAS atleast not right now.
     
  10. 1stcenturylady

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    Me neither. But I do want to know what you believe regarding what Jesus did regarding the issue of sin.
     
  11. frogoon234

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    He was sacrificed on the cross for the atonement of our sins (those who accept the sacrifice). And we acknowledge he was resurrected.
     
  12. 1stcenturylady

    1stcenturylady Spirit-filled follower of Christ Supporter

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    He did more than that. What else?
     
  13. frogoon234

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    Saved us from eternal suffering whence the sacrifice on the cross.
     
  14. 1stcenturylady

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    Did He give us freedom from sin, or freedom to sin?
     
  15. frogoon234

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    He gave us the Holy Spirit which helps us produce righteousness.
     
  16. 1stcenturylady

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  17. hedrick

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    ISO 8601 defines a way that computers represent time-related items such as day of the week internally. It has nothing to do with how information is shown visibly, i.e. on screens, printouts, etc. Nor does it say anything about how people are expected to regard days of the week.

    It's certainly possible to show a day of the week as the ISO number, but in every program I've ever seen, days of the week are shown as text, e.g. "Sun" or "Sunday," in the user's locale (in effect the user's language).
     
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  18. DamianWarS

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    I don't marry the two. I gather for worship on Sunday, and the Sabbath is a better fit on Saturday (although I'm Canadian). these are different days and I'm ok with that.

    On the first day, God spoke light into the void and darkness that was earth. Christ is the new first day and he is the new light, when he rose from the grave what I hear again is "Let there be light"; the emphasis is not resting it is "rising".
     
  19. prodromos

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    Monday is "second"
    Tuesday is "third"
    Wednesday is "fourth"
    Thursday is "fifth"
    Friday is "preparation"
    Saturday is "sabbath"
    Sunday in Greek is "of the Lord" and in Hebrew is "first"
     
  20. miamited

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    Hi frogoon,

    Well, it's probably well to realize 'what' the ISO is. It is an organization established my man to order standardization. That's not quite the same as God speaking. I would think that a born again believer would easily understand that the world, in general, is not going to follow the teachings or commandments of God. I think the Scriptures themselves make that point pretty clearly.

    So, you're welcome to argue whether God's word describes Sunday as the first day of the week or the works of men describe Monday as the first day of the week. It isn't going to make any difference to God. If you, on the other hand, are having a difficult time reconciling that what the world says, does and chooses isn't usually in line with what God says, does and chooses, then I'd suggest you look into the heart of your faith. Is your faith in God or in man?

    Oh, and BTW, Sunday has never been nor is not now, the Sabbath.

    God bless,
    In Christ, ted
     
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