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Instituted at Creation

Discussion in 'Sabbath and The Law' started by EastCoastRemnant, Jan 26, 2018.

  1. EastCoastRemnant

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    And on the seventh day God ended his work which he had made; and he rested on the seventh day from all his work which he had made. And God blessed the seventh day, and sanctified it: because that in it he had rested from all his work which God created and made. Genesis 2:2, 3.



    The great Jehovah had laid the foundations of the earth; He had dressed the whole world in the garb of beauty, and had filled it with things useful to man; He had created all the wonders of the land and of the sea. In six days the great work of creation had been accomplished. And God "rested on the seventh day from all his work which he had made. . .." God looked with satisfaction upon the work of His hands. All was perfect, worthy of its divine Author, and He rested, not as one weary, but as well pleased with the fruits of His wisdom and goodness and the manifestations of His glory.

    After resting upon the seventh day, God sanctified it, or set it apart, as a day of rest for man. Following the example of the Creator, man was to rest upon this sacred day, that as he should look upon the heavens and the earth, he might reflect upon God's great work of creation; and that as he should behold the evidences of God's wisdom and goodness, his heart might be filled with love and reverence for his Maker. . ..

    God saw that a Sabbath was essential for man, even in Paradise. He needed to lay aside his own interests and pursuits for one day of the seven, that he might more fully contemplate the works of God, and meditate upon His power and goodness. He needed a Sabbath, to remind him more vividly of God, and to awaken gratitude because all that he enjoyed and possessed came from the beneficent hand of the Creator.

    When the foundations of the earth were laid, . . . then was laid the foundation of the Sabbath. Well may this institution demand our reverence: it was ordained by no human authority, and rests upon no human traditions; it was established by the Ancient of days, and commanded by His eternal word.
     
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  2. SAAN

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    Sometimes I question why God would allow the RCC to do what they did with that day. If it was so important to keep the Sabbath the way they were doing it in the OT, why dont just destroy anyone that tries to change it and these debates would never be a thing.
     
  3. BobRyan

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    Interesting that D.L. Moody also affirms the Bible detail that the Sabbath was given to mankind in Eden - Genesis 2:1-3
     
  4. BobRyan

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    But the same could be said of the Jews who were at war with Christ and the disciples - Jesus said to the Samaritan woman "salvation is of the Jews" John 4 -- yet they went wayyy off the rails.
     
  5. Joelthe vicious

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    These are contradictory... unless WHAT?
    These are contradictory... unless the latter paragraph, the sentence, 'After resting upon the seventh day, God sanctified it, or set it apart, as a day of rest for man' be regarded an instance of the use of the Ablative.

    Thanks for the nice precedent... which in Matthew 28:1 proves to be destructive of your, the SDA dogma of a Sunday Resurrection of Jesus; which again proves to be destructive of your, the SDA dogma of the Seventh Day Sabbath.
     
  6. prodromos

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    God resting on the Sabbath was prefiguring Christ resting in the tomb after His Friday crucifixion. God is spirit and does not tire or need rest, only the flesh tires after labour, thus the reference is looking into the future when God would become man.
    Obviously it didn't end with Christ resting in the tomb. On Sunday, early in the morning Christ rose from the dead. Jews celebrate the shadow, Christians celebrate the fulfillment.
     
  7. EastCoastRemnant

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    Celebrated with no Divine authority to do so... how many examples do we have in the OT of God's people thinking that their ideas would be acceptable to God that ended badly for them? Don't be lead astray because of men's tradition. God has commanded for us to keep holy the 7th day Sabbath... He has NOT in any way annulled His Holy declaration for us to obey the 4th Commandment... man did.

    You follow the letter and the spirit of every single Commandment except the 4th... do you suppose God's doesn't notice such things?
     
  8. Dkh587

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    Remember the sabbath day, to keep it set-apart.

    Six days shalt thou labour, and do all thy work:

    But the seventh day is the sabbath of YHWH your God: in it thou shalt not do any work, thou, nor thy son, nor thy daughter, thy manservant, nor thy maidservant, nor thy cattle, nor thy stranger that is within thy gates:

    For in six days YHWH made heaven and earth, the sea, and all that in them is, and rested the seventh day: wherefore YHWH blessed the sabbath day, and hallowed it.
     
  9. Joelthe vicious

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    Christ having been raised from the dead in the tomb, rested God's Sabbath Day's rest; 'thus the reference (Genesis 2:2,3) is looking into the future when God would become man'.
    "On Sabbath late, in the mid-afternoon ... there was a great earthquake the angel of the Lord from heaven descending with his appearance casting the stone from the tomb." 'Opse de Sabbatohn tehi epiphohskousehi eis Mian sabbatohn...'.
    "The LORD the day The Seventh Day from all, his, works, rested."

    God never worked or rested, "finished" He not all his works, "blessed" He not and "hallowed" He not "the Seventh Day the LORD revived": "His Holiness The Son of God by Resurrection from the dead."
     
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  10. Joelthe vicious

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    How many examples do we have in the OT of God's thinking, of his Divine Authority, that his great and only plan, Jesus Christ, would end in the Good News of man's salvation?

    For this Purpose God at all created, that the earth may be inhabited with the redeemed of the Lamb of God. Isaiah 45:18; 65:21 ...after, Salvation, Jeremiah 46:26.
     
  11. Joelthe vicious

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    Exactly! Note that "wherefore the LORD blessed the Sabbath Day, and hallowed it", was, because He "rested the Seventh Day"; not because "in six days the LORD made heaven and earth, the sea, and all that in them is"!
     
  12. EastCoastRemnant

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    I agree... still doesn't negate the 7th day Sabbath now does it? Give me ONE verse that says God or the Son has Sanctified and Hallowed another day and I will honour God in that.
     
  13. EastCoastRemnant

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    You're employing some twisted logic if you are trying to separate the six days of creation from the seventh day Sabbath rest.
     
  14. Joelthe vicious

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    I agree... still doesn't Substantiate "the day the Seventh Day God from all, his, works, rested ... JESUS, having given them...the People of God, rest", "the Rest-of-God", by having given them Rest, Himself, "by Resurrection from the dead" now, does it?
    Give me ONE verse that says God or the Son sanctified and hallowed "the Sabbath Rest Day OF GOD" by another way than Christ "the Way", "the Rest of God" through Resurrection from the dead "on the Seventh Day the LORD RESTED AND REVIVED" or, "rested reviving" or, "resting revived"?
     
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  15. EastCoastRemnant

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    Remember when Jesus said this...
    Matthew 5:21-23
    Ye have heard that it was said of them of old time, Thou shalt not kill; and whosoever shall kill shall be in danger of the judgment:
    But I say unto you, That whosoever is angry with his brother without a cause shall be in danger of the judgment:

    He was referencing the 6th Commandment but then expounding on what the spiritual application was. It's the same with the 4th Commandment. The 7th day Sabbath is still to be observed as written in the Law just as the 6th Commandment tells us not to kill. But then He expounded on the 4th and showed us the spiritual application...that Jesus is our rest.

    So, I answered your ONE verse inquiry.. can you now answer mine? One verse that shows the 7th day Sabbath was nullified by God or His Son.
     
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  16. Joelthe vicious

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    No, I don't and don't have to. The seven days in the Genesis 1 to 3 saga were seven separate days, weren't they? Absolutely! NO GAP between the Sixth Day and the Seventh Day either! Every of the seven days is seen separated from the one immediately preceding through "the EVENING COOL OF DAY". Don't you agree? I am surprised!
     
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    Have I, once, tried to show or used one verse to show the 7th day Sabbath was nullified by God, or by his Son? No, I have not.
    Nevertheless, 'the 7th day Sabbath' is no longer 'to be observed as written in the Law'. Not even the 6th Commandment which tells us not to kill is any longer to be observed 'as written in the Law'. Jesus made that very clear, and you showed it very well!
    Well then, as Jesus 'expounded on the 4th and showed us the spiritual application...that Jesus is our rest', why do you say I'm 'employing some twisted logic' etc. when I expound on the Sabbath's 'spiritual application'?

    I'll tell you why! Because you take the spiritual application as far as human subjectivity, while I am endeavouring to take it to its Divine consequentiality.
     
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    I don't understand the significance to sabbath observance that some attach to it, as a marker for who are and who are not true Christians. Christ fulfilled all obligations under the Law, and he did so vicariously for his people.

    It's not that we neglect the Sabbath commandment, we just see it as fulfilled in Christ.
     
  19. Joelthe vicious

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    Hebrews 4:4εἴρηκεν γάρ ὁ Θεὸς που περὶ τῆς ἑβδόμης οὕτως Καὶ κατέπαυσεν ὁ Θεὸς ἐν τῇ ἡμέρᾳ τῇ ἑβδόμῃ ἀπὸ πάντων τῶν ἔργων αὐτοῦ

    because God spake in a certain place - εἴρηκεν γάρ ὁ Θεὸς που

    thus concerning the Seventh Day - περὶ τῆς ἑβδόμης οὕτως

    And God rested on the day The Seventh Day - Καὶ κατέπαυσεν ὁ Θεὸς ἐν τῇ ἡμέρᾳ τῇ ἑβδόμῃ

    from all the works of His - ἀπὸ πάντων τῶν ἔργων αὐτοῦ

    Re: ἀπὸ… Root meaning, ‘off’, ‘away from’; Resultant meanings, ‘from’, ‘up from’; ‘by’, ‘on account of’.

    Therefore, Hebrews 4,

    “4Because God spake in a certain place thus concerning the Seventh Day,

    And God on the day The Seventh Day rested up on account of all the works of His.”

    Compare Isaias 57:15, “Thus saith the Most High dwelling on high, the Eternal, the Most Holy Place is His Name being-rested-up-again [anapauomenos]” ‘from’, death’s fast that is!
     
  20. Joelthe vicious

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    It's not the 'significance' any of 'us', 'attach' to the ‘observance of some’; it is the significance the "Lord of the Sabbath", of "the People of God", and, of their Salvation, THROUGH CHRIST JESUS their Lord, 'attaches' to HIS, Sabbath Day 'as a marker' between Him their Saviour God and them his saved, People. In other words, it is for all who believe the significance Scripture has, and ‘not that we neglect the Sabbath commandment’ or, ‘just see it as fulfilled in Christ’.
     
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