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Incel commits murder and shares pictures on social media

Discussion in 'News & Current Events' started by SummerMadness, Jul 15, 2019.

  1. SummerMadness

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    A man killed his girlfriend and then shared photos of her dead body on a gaming platform, police say
    Incels are a real danger to our society. They have committed murders and several acts of terrorism, they are a true threat to society.
     
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  2. Tanj

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  3. SummerMadness

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    The language and comments he made on social media are related to that community (I would post other links, but there is graphic language). He made comments about "orbiting" her, which refers to far-right MRA lingo. Then there is the reference to Pewdiepie, I don't know why they worship him.
     
  4. Tanj

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    Dunno about any of that, but the fact he was in a relationship with her kinda puts him out of the incel category.
     
  5. SummerMadness

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    Except they weren't, he was a family friend. He claimed to be her boyfriend, but her family says otherwise. It could be somewhere in between, perhaps he was hoping for more, but referring to being in her orbit is part of that dark incel/MRA/beta-male corner of the Internet.
     
  6. Tanj

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    Like I said, dunno about any of that and have no idea what a Pewdeipie is when it's at home. At this point, however, I am willing to bow to your knowledge of the subject.
     
  7. tall73

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    PewdiePie is a big Youtube content creator. The phrase used was "subscribe to PewdiePie", Ie. subscribe to his Youtube channel.

    It is an internet meme. PewDiePie vs T-Series - Wikipedia

    However, it is also something the Christ Church shooter said while live-streaming his attack. And it was likely in this context that it was used. In other words, another example of one killer influencing another.
     
  8. Tanj

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    Good grief. I was happier in my ignorance. Storm, meet teacup.
     
  9. Ignatius the Kiwi

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    The percentage of men not having sex or being in a relationship is thirty percent if I recall based on that ok cupid study. How many of them you want to classify as incels I don't know, they are all problems on society, suggests that you think something should be done about them. What should be done about them? Nothing can be done about them more than any other troubled group in the world.

    This crime should be punished and serve as a warning to where obsession can lead to. There is also nothing in the article that indicates this person was an incel.
     
  10. SummerMadness

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    Other articles detail that, but they contain graphic language, so I will not post it here.
     
  11. tall73

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    Check out the Rollingstone article for more details. Can't post the link due to language.

    Some of those in 4chan are taking it as an incel attack, in any case, though others dispute it, per the article.

    Edit to correct a point.
     
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    Even if he's an MRA or likes Pewdiepie....that doesn't mean he's an incel.

    Seems unlikely that a guy his age living with a gf was celibate.
     
  14. tall73

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    I don't think they were living together. They went to a concert, got high, and she agreed to allow him to be her ride home.

    As far as I can tell she was what is referred to as an instagram "model", which is usually monetizing pictures of yourself. Or she may have just be doing it for popularity.

    Orbiting in this case means a bunch of people tune in to see her pictures and focus on her, but of course...can't get really close.

    In this case though he knew her in real life. The full nature of their relationship is disputed with some saying they were together, and others not.

    He said now you have to find someone else to orbit. In other words, this one's gone.

    Some of the 4chan folks were relating this to the incel community with the usual praise of Elliot Rodger.
     
  15. SummerMadness

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    She was 17 years old, of course they weren't living together.

    She was considered an "e-girl."

    Orbiting does not refer to tuning in, it refers to men that want to have an intimate relationship with a woman, so they hang around them in hopes of fulfilling that fantasy.

    They are also praising this murder because that is expected of their degenerate cohort.
     
  16. Ana the Ist

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    Ahh....so the headline isn't really correct.
     
  17. Radagast

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    "Related to that community." That seems a little vague.

    Some things that you post are "related to the MS-13 community." Doesn't mean you're a gang member.

    It's very old phrase. I wouldn't read anything into it.

    The family always says otherwise. Her friends would probably be the best informants.

    Yeah, what? Give them all government-issued girlfriends? Shoot them? Lock them up in case they might commit a crime?
     
  18. SummerMadness

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    The other articles related to this story are very clear about his incel ways, so take it as you please. Some people want to slam their head in the sand about incels and the danger of their world, go ahead.
     
  19. Ignatius the Kiwi

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    Evidently they need to be locked up because they are inherently dangerous.
     
  20. Ana the Ist

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    I've read three articles....two national news, one local news...and I haven't seen anything about incels in any of them. I have seen two refer to them as a couple.

    This is really thin....there needs to be a minimum bar for "member of the incel community". Is there any evidence that he was part of an incel group or forum? Did he frequently post incel memes? Something?
     
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