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In Danger Of...

Discussion in 'Deeper Fellowship' started by Nick01, Sep 16, 2021.

  1. Nick01

    Nick01 Member

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    Mark 3:28-30
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    28 Verily I say unto you, All sins shall be forgiven unto the sons of men, and blasphemies wherewith soever they shall blaspheme:

    29 But he that shall blaspheme against the Holy Ghost hath never forgiveness, but is in danger of eternal damnation.

    30 Because they said, He hath an unclean spirit.

    ___________

    I have been messed up on this verse for a long time. I just needed to know what it meant by saying "is in danger of eternal damnation" ... and if it clarifies what it means by saying, "Because they said, He hath an unclean spirit."

    How do I know if I committed this sin?
    Does this hinge on "Because they said, He hath an unclean spirit." ?
     
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  2. Going_Nowhere

    Going_Nowhere Active Member

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    Jesus was doing miracles by the power of the Holy Spirit, but the Pharisees were saying he was doing miracles by the power of Beelzebub. So they were (in a sense) calling the Holy Spirit unclean or evil.

    IMO, the unforgivable sin is saying the work of the Holy Spirit is actually the work of demons and/or Satan. Or saying the work of demons/Satan is actually the work of the Holy Spirit.

    We should be very careful what we say is of God....and what we say is demonic or satanic. Since we don't know the source, it might be best not to judge.
     
    Last edited: Sep 16, 2021
  3. tdidymas

    tdidymas Newbie

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    Did you claim (and believe) that Jesus had/has an unclean spirit?

    If you loathe Jesus and His words, then you might not be born of God. As it says "whoever does not believe (in Him) will not see life..." So then, what to do is to seek God while He may be found, by studying His word, and making sure that you are one of His elect.

    But if you love Jesus and really do want to follow His commands, then I seriously doubt that you have committed that unpardonable sin. Enough to say it hasn't happened.

    But "in danger of eternal damnation" means that if those people refuse to repent and accept Jesus as the Messiah, they will incur lake of fire judgment in that terrible day of God's wrath.

    Hope this helps.
     
  4. Abaxvahl

    Abaxvahl Well-Known Member

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    To blaspheme God is to blaspheme the Holy Spirit so the sin is not simply to say something bad about Jesus or God but it is to die without repenting. The reason why this sin is named this is because it is a form of resisting the Spirit, denying the Truth that you know to be true, and so on. Someone in that state of resisting the Spirit actively is in danger of eternal damnation as they live, but not in it yet. If you cease this then you can be saved.

    In other words, as I say often: if you have breath in you then you have not committed this sin, which is dying without repentance. You're good.
     
  5. Mark Quayle

    Mark Quayle Well-Known Member Supporter

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    A lot of people, believers, think they have committed the unforgivable sin. I think they think too much of themselves, and too little of God. We are mere emotional, self-involved ignorant children; do you take your children seriously when they scream they wish you were not their parent? It can hurt, but you know well that they don't even know what they are saying, but are just angry.

    (Conversely, and ironically, we don't take sin seriously in other respects —we have no concept of the purity and holiness and power of God, and the horror that sin is against him, and the patience and love he has for us.)
     
  6. andreha

    andreha Senior Contributor

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    Hi Nick01

    Here's a simple, Biblical test you can do. Look at:

    1 Corinthians 12:3

    Therefore I make known to you that no one speaking by the Spirit of God calls Jesus accursed, and no one can say that Jesus is Lord except by the Holy Spirit.

    So, if you are able to open your mouth, and declare that Jesus Christ is the Lord, then you are fine. If, however, you are unable to, then, no, I refuse to say it...
     
  7. timf

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    To blaspheme is to malign. By making a declaration against the Holy Spirit (the Spirit of truth), one aligns oneself with lies. In Romans we are told that the wrath of God comes against those who hold the truth in unrighteousness.

    The danger lies in placing oneself in opposition to truth.
     
  8. Mark Quayle

    Mark Quayle Well-Known Member Supporter

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    Not mere theory, either! "Thy Word is truth"; "I am the way, the truth and the life." Blasphemy is calling God a liar, and the Creator irrelevant.
     
  9. aiki

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    The "unpardonable sin" is unpardonable because it comes from a heart profoundly opposed to Christ. The blasphemy of the Pharisees was just a by-product, or manifestation, of their blackened hearts. It was this terrible darkness in their hearts that was "unpardonable" - not because it couldn't be forgiven, but because such inner darkness was utterly hardened to the convicting, illuminating, faith-giving, regenerating work of the Holy Spirit, refusing even to acknowledge forgiveness was necessary. Worse, the Pharisees were so far gone within themselves, their hearts were so settled into wickedness, that they attributed the work of the Spirit to the devil. Such profound hardness of heart, such complete reprobation, was what was "unforgiveable," not a particular set of words spoken in an obsessive-compulsive moment, or in a moment of frustrated rage.

    You can bet the Pharisees who accused Christ of casting out demons by the power of the devil, didn't go away troubled by Christ's words, wondering if they were truly "unforgiveable." And this was the problem: They were so calloused to the truth, so opposed to their own Messiah, they couldn't recognize him when he stood before them, preaching to them the truth. His words fell upon them as seed upon stone. And this is why they were beyond forgiveness. It was not that God would not forgive them if they desired to be forgiven but that they did not believe they needed forgiveness - certainly not through Jesus, whom they despised and were plotting to murder.

    Is this you? Are you just like the NT Pharisees, shrouded and settled deeply into wicked rebellion toward God? If this was the case, you wouldn't be wondering about the "unpardonable sin." So, rest easy, you are not guilty of this sin, which is a sin of the heart, not of certain words you might say in a particular order.
     
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