Impossible to go to heaven if you deny OSAS

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That is a long post with much information.
I scanned it once and before I examine if more carefully
I hope to have you answer one question for me.

At what point in your process of salvation is the
believer "indwelt" by the Holy Spirit. You had
numbers 1-10. Can you tell me which number
would incorporate the "indwelling" of the Spirit?

Thanks

Jim
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#1, #2, and #5. are antithetical in teaching of not having Sanctification or the indwelling of the Spirit. They are showing the problem of not having the Spirit and or being indwelt by the Spirit. They teach the necessity or need of how one must have the Spirit in order to #1. Have good works or God in one's life #2. Agree with the teachings of Jesus and the doctrine of godliness so as to be humble and to have proper knowledge of the things of God. #5. Have the love of God within them to truly love Jesus and not be accursed.

#6 and #10 each teach both: (a) Having the Spirit, and in (b) Not having the Spirit.

#3, #4, #7, #8, #9 all teach in having the Spirit in regards to Sanctification.

Technically it would be 7 of portions of Scripture that directly teach this.

3-4, and 6-10.

 

[5thKingdom]

"The man has now become like one of us, knowing good and evil." That is the truth you need to deal with, not me! The issues you raise are your problem, not mine!

Doug

First... what a snarky comment.


Second... You have only presented HALF truths.
The issue is NOT that men can know good from evil
(that is just a partial truth) the rest of the truth is that
Adam "DIED" at the same time... so that he could NOT
choose (spiritual) good over evil.


You conveniently quoted Gen 3:22 ... and OMITTED 3:17
where God cursed the ground and 3:23 where God kicked
Adam OUT of the Garden (representing his spiritual death).


Adam and Eve did know "good from evil" UNTIL they
spiritually DIED. From that point on the would never
know spiritual good... since they were spiritually DEAD.


And Satan tells the same BIG LIE today "you can be like God"
But are we able to do what is spiritually "good"... no sir,
because we are spiritually DEAD.


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[renniks]

Those who deny the doctrine of "Once Saved Always Saved" claim that they also believe in Jesus. But if you believe that you must maintain salvation by living a good life, how is that compatible with believing in Jesus? If you must meet a certain goal to be saved, then you must have faith in yourself that you are able to meet that goal. So instead of having faith in the Lord Jesus Christ, you are having faith in yourself and your good works.

What does it mean to have faith in something? It means to trust. For example, if you have faith in your favorite football team, it means that you trust that team and you believe that the team will win. You could say: "I believe in this team!" That's kind of what it means to believe in Jesus. It means to trust Jesus that he will save you, no matter what happens in your life. It's pretty simple.

This is why it's crucial to believe in eternal security. If you believe that you can lose your salvation, then you are not saved because haven't put all of your faith in Jesus Christ yet.

And then people respond by saying something like this: "You just want to have licence to sin!"

Well, better to have a licence to sin because the Bible says that if we say that we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us. And that also applies to saved people. If we didn't have a licence to sin, we would all go to hell. So good luck if you want to be without a licence.

Wouldn't this mean your belief about how salvation works is what saves you instead of your belief in Jesus' death and resurrection for your sins?

 

[5thKingdom]

Wouldn't this mean your belief about how salvation works is what saves you instead of your belief in Jesus' death and resurrection for your sins?

Of course I cannot speak for BibleBeliever but my position is that
it works just the opposite as you suggest. If we trust in the fact
that Jesus' Atonement covered all our sins (past, present, future),
which would be the assurance provided by an "indwelling" Spirit
which "witnesses" with our spirit, then we are trusting ENTIRELY
in His finished work... and not trusting in our works.

I always found it interesting that the Bible teaches sanctification
is different for each believer. Some produce "fruit" thirty-fold and
others sixty-fold and others one hundred-fold. But all are saved.

But, ultimately, is not our belief in HOW salvation works always
a sign of WHAT we trust in? Those who believe they are saved
by saying a sinner's prayer or making an altar call or "accepting"
Jesus, or any other work (including repenting of sins), are they
not showing that their trust is in their own works - not Gods?

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[5thKingdom]

Everyone wants the good things in life, but they never want to own up to the bad things; But the door swings both ways, my friend:

“For as in Adam all die, even so in Christ shall all be made alive.”
(1 Corinthians 15:22).

(1 Timothy 5:5-8).​

In your view of Soteriology, this passage should not exist....

First, do you understand 1 Co 15:22 to mean universal salvation?
Is that not what the verse SEEMS to teach? I am NOT saying that
is what the verse teaches... only wondering WHY you quoted it?

Secondly, why would you presume to say that in my view of
Soteriology 1Tim 5:5-8 should not exist? It is only teaching
that the "fruit" of salvation is good works.

Thirdly, why do you speak of "belief Alone-ism"?
Did I ever say anything to suggest I believe that regeneration
does not result in sanctification and good works?

.

 

[5thKingdom]

"The man has now become like one of us, knowing good and evil." That is the truth you need to deal with, not me! The issues you raise are your problem, not mine!

Doug

No, the issues I raised are PART of the issue you raised.
It is only PART of the issue that Adam could know good and evil
(as demonstrated by knowing he was naked) the other PART that
you avoid is Adam became spiritually DEAD (as demonstrated by
being thrown out of the Garden) Can a spiritually dead man
know spiritual good and evil?

It is not "my problem" that you deal with one of two issues...
And it's not "my problem" that you think men can know spiritual
good and evil while they are spiritually DEAD.




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But of course that is a STRAWMAN argument because
Adam and Eve were not born spiritually DEAD.

Can you show ONE VERSE in the Bible where someone
OTHER than Adam and Eve had eternal life and lost it?

Everyone wants the good things in life, but they never want to own up to the bad things; But the door swings both ways, my friend:

“For as in Adam all die, even so in Christ shall all be made alive.”
(1 Corinthians 15:22).

“For if by one man's offence death reigned by one; much more they which receive abundance of grace and of the gift of righteousness shall reign in life by one, Jesus Christ.)”
(Romans 5:17).

“That as sin hath reigned unto death, even so might grace reign through righteousness unto eternal life by Jesus Christ our Lord.” (Romans 5:21).

First, do you understand 1 Co 15:22 to mean universal salvation?
Is that not what the verse SEEMS to teach? I am NOT saying that
is what the verse teaches... only wondering WHY you quoted it?

The point is that when Adam sinned, every man, woman, and child was condemned by the stain of his one time sin. But Jesus reversed the curse. When a baby dies, they are saved by Christ's sacrifice even though their body is tainted by the stain of sin from Adam. But if a baby grows up, and they fall into sin, they then die spiritually and they need a Savior (Jesus Christ). They need to believe the gospel in 1 Corinthians 15:1-4, and seek forgiveness with Jesus in order to be born again and restored back to being a saved child of the kingdom.

In fact, I believe everyone's life is illustrated in the parable of the prodigal son. We were all once alive as a baby, but then when sin came in our lives, we went prodigal and became dead; However, when we came back home to the Everlasting Father (Jesus), we then became “alive again” (saved). Double check Luke 15 for yourself. The father said that his son was dead, and that he is alive again.

This proves that sin is separation from God.

Secondly, why would you presume to say that in my view of
Soteriology 1Tim 5:5-8 should not exist? It is only teaching
that the "fruit" of salvation is good works.

And let's read the context.

“For some are already turned aside after Satan.”
(1 Timothy 5:15).​

A person cannot turn aside after Satan if they are already in Satan's grip or grasp.

Thirdly, why do you speak of "belief Alone-ism"?
Did I ever say anything to suggest I believe that regeneration
does not result in sanctification and good works?

Do you believe that Sanctification and good works plays a part in the salvation process after we are saved by God's grace?

Or do you believe that a belief alone in Jesus leads to having a forced metamorphosis or change beyond our own control whereby we cannot help but to do good works and we cannot help but to enter into the Sanctification Process with God?

My guess is you believe the latter and not the former.

However, Scripture teaches that we must keep ourselves in the love of God, be faithful unto death, etc.; For....

We are told:

“...We are made partakers of Christ, if we hold the beginning of our confidence stedfast unto the end.” (Hebrews 3:13-14).

"Keep yourselves in the love of God, looking for the mercy of our Lord Jesus Christ unto eternal life." (Jude 1:21).

"...be thou faithful unto death, and I will give thee a crown of life." (Revelation 2:10).​

We are told to:

1. Continue in the grace of God (Acts of the Apostles 13:43).
   
   
2. Continue in the faith (Acts of the Apostles 14:22) (Colossians 1:23).
   
   
3. Continue in his goodness, otherwise we can be cut off (just like the Jews were cut off) (Romans 11:21-22).

So we are not love robots after making a one time decision of faith (i.e. Belief Alone-ism). A belief alone does not set the spark into motion for us to be love slaves. Belief must be followed by loyalty of our own free will cooperation with God wanting to do the good work through us. Our loyalty is a part of our faith in what God's Word says.

 

[5thKingdom]

The point is that when Adam sinned, every man, woman, and child was condemned by the stain of his one time sin. But Jesus reversed the curse. When a baby dies, they are saved by Christ's sacrifice even though their body is tainted by the stain of sin from Adam. But if a baby grows up, and they fall into sin, they then die spiritually and they need a Savior (Jesus Christ). .

That is an interesting theory.
You suggest that we are NOT born spiritually dead.
That all babies are born saved (with the "indwelling" spirit
and with eternal life) and they LOSE that Holy Spirit and
the LOSE their eternal life when they sin for the first time?

Can you show me any SCRIPTURE to support that theory?
And what is the "age of accountability"... or does that differ
from child to child?

Jim
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[5thKingdom]

“For some are already turned aside after Satan.”
(1 Timothy 5:15).
A person cannot turn aside after Satan if they are already in Satan's grip or grasp.

Another interesting theory... that someone cannot fall DEEPER
into sin. I am not aware of any SCRIPTURES that teach men
cannot fall DEEPER into sin... can you provide such Scripture?


Jim
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[BibleBeliever1611]

Wouldn't this mean your belief about how salvation works is what saves you instead of your belief in Jesus' death and resurrection for your sins?

No. The point is that if you fully trust in God's grace, that means that you also trust God that he doesn't take away your salvation if you commit too much sin. Those two things go hand in hand. You can't have one without the other.

Just like the hymn goes: Are you fully trusting in his grace this hour; are you washed in the blood of the lamb?

But don't get me wrong. Obviously it would be wrong to abuse God's grace and commit as much sin as you can just because you know that you can never lose salvation. God would not bless you if you lived that way. So this is not a "licence to sin" unless you want God to curse you and to ruin your life.

 

[5thKingdom]

Do you believe that Sanctification and good works plays a part in the salvation process after we are saved by God's grace?

Or do you believe that a belief alone in Jesus leads to having a forced metamorphosis or change beyond our own control whereby we cannot help but to do good works and we cannot help but to enter into the Sanctification Process with God?

My guess is you believe the latter and not the former.
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You certainly LOADED that question to your point of view.


I believe that we are saved when we are "born again" or
"regenerated" or "indwelt" or "sealed"...


I believe that the RESULT of regeneration is repentance.
NOT that repentance causes regeneration


I also believe that sanctification is different for each saved.
Some produce "fruit" thirty-fold, others sixty-fold and some
one hundred-fold.


But (unlike your STRAWMAN argument above) and I quote:
"...having a forced metamorphosis or change beyond our own
control whereby we cannot help but to do good works and we
cannot help but to enter into the Sanctification Process with God?"


There is a VAST difference (which you seem to not comprehend)
between WANTING to repent - and repenting because of some
"forced metamorphosis" which is "beyond our own control"
and "whereby we cannot help but to do good works".


If you must create a STRAWMAN to present an argument
then you have already LOST your argument.


Jim
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[5thKingdom]

We are told:

“...We are made partakers of Christ, if we hold the beginning of our confidence stedfast unto the end.” (Hebrews 3:13-14).
"Keep yourselves in the love of God, looking for the mercy of our Lord Jesus Christ unto eternal life." (Jude 1:21).
"...be thou faithful unto death, and I will give thee a crown of life." (Revelation 2:10).​

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Yes, all of these are EVIDENCE of salvation (not the cause)


Jim
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[5thKingdom]

We are told to:

1. Continue in the grace of God (Acts of the Apostles 13:43).
   
   
2. Continue in the faith (Acts of the Apostles 14:22) (Colossians 1:23).
   
   
3. Continue in his goodness, otherwise we can be cut off (just like the Jews were cut off) (Romans 11:21-22).

Again... all EVIDENCE of salvation (not the cause)


Jim
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[5thKingdom]

So we are not love robots after making a one time decision of faith (i.e. Belief Alone-ism). A belief alone does not set the spark into motion for us to be love slaves. Belief must be followed by loyalty of our own free will cooperation with God wanting to do the good work through us. Our loyalty is a part of our faith in what God's Word says.

(1) First strawman... that we are robots

(2) Second strawman... that we make a one time decision of faith.
The Bible is very clear that faith is a GIFT of God and not our
decision (lest any man should boast)

(3) Third strawman.... "belief alone-ism"

(4) Fourth strawman.... "love slaves"

(5) Fifth strawman... our loyalty is a part of OUR faith
As already discussed, it is not OUR faith... it is a GIFT to us
by God. It is the faith OF Jesus... not our faith IN Jesus.
We cannot have faith in Jesus until it is GIVEN to us.


Jim
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We are told to:
Continue in the grace of God (Acts of the Apostles 13:43).
Continue in the faith (Acts of the Apostles 14:22) (Colossians 1:23).
Continue in his goodness, otherwise we can be cut off (just like the Jews were cut off) (Romans 11:21-22).

Again... all EVIDENCE of salvation (not the cause)


Jim
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I think you need to read these verses again. They are not using language to describe something that is happening after the fact, but they are actually commanding us to do something. We are told to continue in the grace of God. We are told to continue in the faith. We are told to continue in His goodness otherwise we can be cut off. If things are as you say, these verses would not exist in Scripture. But because you adhere to Calvinism, you are not able to see it.

 

[renniks]

Of course I cannot speak for BibleBeliever but my position is that
it works just the opposite as you suggest. If we trust in the fact
that Jesus' Atonement covered all our sins (past, present, future),
which would be the assurance provided by an "indwelling" Spirit
which "witnesses" with our spirit, then we are trusting ENTIRELY
in His finished work... and not trusting in our works.

I always found it interesting that the Bible teaches sanctification
is different for each believer. Some produce "fruit" thirty-fold and
others sixty-fold and others one hundred-fold. But all are saved.

But, ultimately, is not our belief in HOW salvation works always
a sign of WHAT we trust in? Those who believe they are saved
by saying a sinner's prayer or making an altar call or "accepting"
Jesus, or any other work (including repenting of sins), are they
not showing that their trust is in their own works - not Gods?

.

Only scripture affirms that we are saved as a result of accepting Jesus. Salvation isn't unconditional.

 

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“For some are already turned aside after Satan.”
(1 Timothy 5:15).
A person cannot turn aside after Satan if they are already in Satan's grip or grasp.

Another interesting theory... that someone cannot fall DEEPER
into sin. I am not aware of any SCRIPTURES that teach men
cannot fall DEEPER into sin... can you provide such Scripture?


Jim
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Again, you fail to understand what this verse is saying.

11 “But the younger widows refuse: for when they have begun to wax 1 wanton 2 against Christ, they will marry;
12 Having damnation, because they have cast off their first faith.
13 And withal they learn to be idle, wandering about from house to house; and not only idle, but tattlers also and busybodies, speaking things which they ought not.
14 I will therefore that the younger women marry, bear children, guide the house, give none occasion to the adversary to speak reproachfully.
15 For some are already turned 3 aside 4 after Satan.”
(1 Timothy 5:11-15).​

1 wax: grow
2. wanton: wandering from moral right judgment.
3. turned: the act of rotating or a change in movement, direction or thought; to change position or reverse.
4. aside: in a different direction, or out of the way

We see in verse 12 that we are to refuse to provide money for younger widows, because they will grow in wandering away from Christ and they will cast off their first faith as a result of such. Verse 12 is not talking about some past widows but some potential future widows.

Verse 15 says that some have already done this by turning aside after Satan. They changed direction towards Satan. One cannot change direction towards Satan unless they are in his possession already. Think. Read the passage again more closely.

This proves that a believer can have salvation and then later lose it.
But of course people do not like to read these uncomfortable passages in Scripture because it does not align with their beliefs that they have learned by men.

 

[renniks]

No. The point is that if you fully trust in God's grace, that means that you also trust God that he doesn't take away your salvation if you commit too much sin. Those two things go hand in hand. You can't have one without the other.

Just like the hymn goes: Are you fully trusting in his grace this hour; are you washed in the blood of the lamb?

Uh huh. So I have to continue trusting in order to continue being saved, so OSAS is false. The sin that will separate me from God is unbelief.

 

[5thKingdom]

I think you need to read these verses again. They are not using language to describe something that is happening after the fact, but they are actually commanding us to do something. We are told to continue in the grace of God. We are told to continue in the faith. We are told to continue in His goodness otherwise we can be cut off. If things are as you say, these verses would not exist in Scripture. But because you adhere to Calvinism, you are not able to see it.

'


Here is the CONTEXT [from Matthew 13]


The church consists of BOTH
(1) Saved "wheat/sheep" sown by God and
(2) unsaved "tares/goats" sown by Satan


Many letters to the churches address this fact.
As a corporate "church" some will fall away,
demonstrating they were never saved.


1Jn 2:19
They went out from us, but they were not of us;
for if they had been of us, they would no doubt have
continued with us: but they went out, that they might be
made manifest that they were not all of us.


In fact, it was always a major PART of the Gospel that
unsaved "tares" would infiltrate the church and the "leaven"
of their false doctrines would corrupt the church. This is why
today we have THOUSANDS of churches teaching heresy.


So, pointing to verses that speak of some falling-away only
confirms what we already know. Jesus explained very clearly
in Matthew 13 that the only the seed that fell in good ground
will produce fruit... all the other seed perishes.


And in several places Jesus teaches the Final Harvest will
separate the "wheat and tares" or the "good fish and bad fish"


Therefore, you prove nothing showing some fall away...
It is expected. So the Apostle encourages we continue to
produce fruit because that is the only EVIDENCE of salvation.


As to me being a "Calvinist" (which I am not) I could say to you
that your gospel of Arminianism cannot understand the truth as
you think salvation is by works plus grace. And that is why you
are obsessed with works, not accepting that works are ONLY an
evidence of salvation - and never a cause.


BTW... just as the Jewish Kingdom was "cut-off" so also is the
Christian church.


We see the Jewish "Kingdom of Heaven" being cut-off in
Matthew 22:2-7


Mat 22:2-7
The kingdom of heaven is like unto a certain king, which made
a marriage for his son, And sent forth his servants to call them
that were bidden to the wedding: and they would not come.
Again, he sent forth other servants, saying, Tell them which are
bidden, Behold, I have prepared my dinner: my oxen and my
fatlings are killed, and all things are ready: come unto the marriage.
But they made light of it, and went their ways, one to his farm,
another to his merchandise: And the remnant took his servants,
and entreated them spitefully, and slew them. But when the king
heard thereof, he was wroth: and he sent forth his armies,
and destroyed those murderers, and burned up their city.


We see the Jewish Kingdom cut-off again in Matthew 21:43-45


Mat 21:43
Therefore say I unto you, The kingdom of God shall
be TAKEN from you, and GIVEN to a nation bringing forth
the fruits thereof.


Mat 21:45
And when the chief priests and Pharisees had heard his parables,
they perceived that he spake of them.


So also we see the Christian "Kingdom of Heaven" being cut-off
as the Holy Spirit is removed [2Thess 2:6-12] and the Man of Sin
is "revealed" to be "sitting" [ruling] in the "Temple" [Body of Christ]
as the Last Saints follow this "Little Horn" into the "Little Season".
This is also shown as Daniel's Abomination "standing" [ruling] in
the "Holy Place" [Body of Christ].


The entire Great Tribulation "Kingdom of Heaven" is established
as the Last Saints (and some tares) "went forth" from the Christian
"Kingdom of Heaven" into the Great Tribulation "Kingdom" which
is also shown as the Revelation Beast and as Daniel's Fourth Beast.


Mat 25:1
Then [during the Great Tribulation] shall the kingdom of heaven
be likened unto ten virgins, which took their lamps, and went forth
[from the Christian Kingdom] to meet the bridegroom.


When the Great Commission is finished, when the "testimony"
of the Two Witnesses [the church] is "finished", after all of the
lost sheep are found and saved, then God removes the Holy
Spirit [which restrains - 2Thess 2] and Satan is "loosened" to
rule during his "Little Season".


This period is shown as the Great Tribulation "Kingdom of Heaven"
and as the Revelation Beast(s) and as Daniel's Fourth Beast and
as the experiences of the "ten virgins" and as THE Antichrist ruling
during Satan's "Little Season"


In other words: There is a Great Tribulation "Kingdom of Heaven"
after the end of the Christian "Kingdom of Heaven" which started
at the end of the Jewish "Kingdom of Heaven".


As Matthew 25:1-13 clearly shows, the Final Harvest is NOT from
the Jewish Kingdom or the Christian Kingdom... it's from Daniel's
Fourth "Kingdom", or the Great Tribulation "Kingdom" or the
Revelation Beast


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[Bible Highlighter]

'


Here is the CONTEXT [from Matthew 13]


The church consists of BOTH
(1) Saved "wheat/sheep" sown by God and
(2) unsaved "tares/goats" sown by Satan


Many letters to the churches address this fact.
As a corporate "church" some will fall away,
demonstrating they were never saved.


1Jn 2:19
They went out from us, but they were not of us;
for if they had been of us, they would no doubt have
continued with us: but they went out, that they might be
made manifest that they were not all of us.


In fact, it was always a major PART of the Gospel that
unsaved "tares" would infiltrate the church and the "leaven"
of their false doctrines would corrupt the church. This is why
today we have THOUSANDS of churches teaching heresy.


So, pointing to verses that speak of some falling-away only
confirms what we already know. Jesus explained very clearly
in Matthew 13 that the only the seed that fell in good ground
will produce fruit... all the other seed perishes.


And in several places Jesus teaches the Final Harvest will
separate the "wheat and tares" or the "good fish and bad fish"


Therefore, you prove nothing showing some fall away...
It is expected. So the Apostle encourages we continue to
produce fruit because that is the only EVIDENCE of salvation.


As to me being a "Calvinist" (which I am not) I could say to you
that your gospel of Arminianism cannot understand the truth as
you think salvation is by works plus grace. And that is why you
are obsessed with works, not accepting that works are ONLY an
evidence of salvation - and never a cause.


BTW... just as the Jewish Kingdom was "cut-off" so also is the
Christian church.


We see the Jewish "Kingdom of Heaven" being cut-off in
Matthew 22:2-7


Mat 22:2-7
The kingdom of heaven is like unto a certain king, which made
a marriage for his son, And sent forth his servants to call them
that were bidden to the wedding: and they would not come.
Again, he sent forth other servants, saying, Tell them which are
bidden, Behold, I have prepared my dinner: my oxen and my
fatlings are killed, and all things are ready: come unto the marriage.
But they made light of it, and went their ways, one to his farm,
another to his merchandise: And the remnant took his servants,
and entreated them spitefully, and slew them. But when the king
heard thereof, he was wroth: and he sent forth his armies,
and destroyed those murderers, and burned up their city.


We see the Jewish Kingdom cut-off again in Matthew 21:43-45


Mat 21:43
Therefore say I unto you, The kingdom of God shall
be TAKEN from you, and GIVEN to a nation bringing forth
the fruits thereof.


Mat 21:45
And when the chief priests and Pharisees had heard his parables,
they perceived that he spake of them.


So also we see the Christian "Kingdom of Heaven" being cut-off
as the Holy Spirit is removed [2Thess 2:6-12] and the Man of Sin
is "revealed" to be "sitting" [ruling] in the "Temple" [Body of Christ]
as the Last Saints follow this "Little Horn" into the "Little Season".
This is also shown as Daniel's Abomination "standing" [ruling] in
the "Holy Place" [Body of Christ].


The entire Great Tribulation "Kingdom of Heaven" is established
as the Last Saints (and some tares) "went forth" from the Christian
"Kingdom of Heaven" into the Great Tribulation "Kingdom" which
is also shown as the Revelation Beast and as Daniel's Fourth Beast.


Mat 25:1
Then [during the Great Tribulation] shall the kingdom of heaven
be likened unto ten virgins, which took their lamps, and went forth
[from the Christian Kingdom] to meet the bridegroom.


When the Great Commission is finished, when the "testimony"
of the Two Witnesses [the church] is "finished", after all of the
lost sheep are found and saved, then God removes the Holy
Spirit [which restrains - 2Thess 2] and Satan is "loosened" to
rule during his "Little Season".


This period is shown as the Great Tribulation "Kingdom of Heaven"
and as the Revelation Beast(s) and as Daniel's Fourth Beast and
as the experiences of the "ten virgins" and as THE Antichrist ruling
during Satan's "Little Season"


In other words: There is a Great Tribulation "Kingdom of Heaven"
after the end of the Christian "Kingdom of Heaven" which started
at the end of the Jewish "Kingdom of Heaven".


As Matthew 25:1-13 clearly shows, the Final Harvest is NOT from
the Jewish Kingdom or the Christian Kingdom... it's from Daniel's
Fourth "Kingdom", or the Great Tribulation "Kingdom" or the
Revelation Beast


.

First, if you don't believe in Calvin's Unconditional Election that God elects certain people based on no conditions whatsoever and they regenerated before they exercise faith in Jesus, then how exactly does a person initially get saved? Does a person have free will to choose the Lord Jesus Christ? If not, then that would be Calvinism whether you do not like to ascribe to such a belief system or not.

Second, can you offer me a word for word commentary in your own words for these three verses?

“...We are made partakers of Christ, if we hold the beginning of our confidence stedfast unto the end.” (Hebrews 3:13-14).

"Keep yourselves in the love of God, looking for the mercy of our Lord Jesus Christ unto eternal life." (Jude 1:21).

"...be thou faithful unto death, and I will give thee a crown of life." (Revelation 2:10).​

Three, you really did not deal with explaining how 1 Timothy 5:11-15 works in your belief system. Are you just ignoring it?