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I'm Truly Impressed By the WH Plea For GA Voters To Stay Home

Discussion in 'American Politics' started by mark46, Nov 30, 2020.

  1. mark46

    mark46 Well-Known Member Supporter

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    The country may have the WH reactions to the election to blame for 2 years of Democratic leadership in the Senate, which every new Democratic president has had for more than a century.

    In the couple of days after the election, I thought that the Democrats had very little chance to win both Senate seats in GA. After all, the Republicans were ahead; they just didn't have a majority. And, in Georgia, the Republicans come out in runoffs in much higher percentages than Democrats. The Republicans senators are incumbents. The senators could campaign on the need to have a Republican senate, which even one win would guarantee. Democrats would need to wait until 2022 to possibly win a Senate majority.

    And NOW, the tide is turning, perhaps.
    1) both senators have been forced to support Trump's claims of national victory.
    2) both senators have been forced to ask for the Republican Secretary of State to resign. Trump called him an enemy of the state. BTW, the Republican governor who appointed him is one of the most loyal to Trump in the country, following his every lead, until now (even now, he is asking for investigations of any fraud in the election).
    3) WH lawyers are in GA, with WH support, filing lawsuits against the state government, insisting that any election with the GA election machines in fraudulent, with many, many Republican ballots being changed to Democratic. Voters are being told that their vote won't count, so stay home.
    4) When the state Republican party has rallies, there are many questions about why they should bother too vote, since president has made clear that their votes won't be counted.
     
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  2. Tanj

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    Well Trump is rallying there in the near future, it will be fascinating to see how he oscillates between "get out and vote" and "the election is rigged from the start".
     
  3. essentialsaltes

    essentialsaltes Stranger in a Strange Land

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  4. QvQ

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    It is the duty and responsibility of the State Authorities to secure records and investigate allegations of fraud. None of the governors have done so.
    If Trump were a private citizen reporting fraud, he would receive the exact same treatment or worse. That is why we have so much voter fraud!
    How would you feel toward a State Official, who, after you reported voter fraud, proceeded to toss out the ballots and wipe the disk, saying, "There isn't any voter fraud?"
     
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  5. Pommer

    Pommer Autodidact polymath

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    What was my evidence beyond President Trump losing?
     
  6. Subduction Zone

    Subduction Zone Regular Member

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    Correction, it is their duty to investigate serious allegations of election fraud. There have not been any.
     
  7. QvQ

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    IT is not theirs to judge what is serious. It is theirs to investigate allegations, sworn affidavits before a magistrate, and there are plenty of those, witness's, to file complaints
     
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  8. QvQ

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    Double Post / removed
     
  9. Subduction Zone

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    Not so. They have to be able to do so. Otherwise nothing would get done. They would forever be investigating claims of crazies.

    And no, the evidence you claim does not appear to exist. There are only claims of sworn affidavits etc.. When asked for evidence at trials none is presented. That is why the vast majority of cases have been thrown out.
     
  10. QvQ

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    I doubt that any amount of any kind of evidence is going the change anyone's mind. What convinces me does not convince you and it is not my reason for coming here.
    I do appreciate your participation on this thread and I will see you around the forum
    Good night!
     
  11. Subduction Zone

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    You may be projecting. Those that support Trump's wild claims are those that don't follow the evidence. They are also the ones that claim to have evidence but never supply it. Judges can and do throw cases out of court when one side has no evidence.

    Right now you appear to be accusing others of your sins. When I said there was no evidence the proper way to oppose my claim was by posting examples of evidence. But perhaps you know that the Trump supporters only have claims of evidence.
     
  12. Andrewn

    Andrewn Well-Known Member CF Ambassadors Supporter

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    There is no good reason for Georgia Republicans to vote for their candidates. Their ballots will be counted only once because they have an honest Secretary of State.

    Trump Encourages People in North Carolina to Vote Twice, Which Is Illegal upload_2020-12-1_6-54-4.jpeg
     
  13. MIDutch

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    I have been of the opinion that trump has been knowingly destroying US government from the inside with his cabinet and department chairs appointments (why else would you put DeVos at Education, Carson at HUD, Perdue at Agriculture, Perry at Energy, etc.), but I wasn't expecting trump to destroy the Republican Party from the inside as well.

    Not okay with trump damaging US government from the inside, but perfectly happy to have him do it to the Republican Party.
     
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  14. Aryeh Jay

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    What do you think they were laughing about? It has always been part of the plan. Too bad the Republicans fell for it.


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  15. Elliewaves

    Elliewaves Untouchable internet saint

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    Everything is so rigged and unfair! They shouldn't vote to show their loyalty to Trump!



    If someone is telling you not to vote and you comply, then you deserve to lose your representation. Personally , I don't think they will listen. Republicans typically do turn out to vote, but maybe they will surprise us all this time and give up their right to vote because someone they idolize told them to.
     
  16. Arcangl86

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    Georgia ordered an audit of all the ballots, which is unheard of. While i think it might have resulted in the largest voter shift in history of recounts, it only added a tiny amount of ballots and did nothing to change Biden's pretty large lead.
     
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    Post removed QVQ
     
  18. trunks2k

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    Well, I don't think the shift happened just because they did an audit of all the ballots. That shift would have likely come about regardless during the normal auditing because there'd have been a clear discrepancy between the number of votes cast and the number of votes reported to the state. Just a cursory look at the overall data would have shown that they were missing some reported votes.
     
  19. Nithavela

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    Have you tried a "non-zero" amout of evidence?
     
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