I'm afraid...

keryakos · Jul 22, 2009

Caty said:
No, I said it intentionally because I was asking the precher if I had committed the uf-sin and I told my mom because she asked me what was making me so depressed and I told the people online because I was asking them if I had done this. But now I fear that maybe I could have been mad at God or soemthing and wanted them to think bad about God by telling them my thoughts, Im not sure, but Im scared now.

i understand what you are saying but let me ask you a serious question
if you did do that re you proud that you did it if not that shows you have the Holy Ghost convicting you still

Caty · Jul 22, 2009

No, I hate the fact that I could have. But what if I'm just afraid of going to Hell & I don't care about God. I don't know. I'm so scared.

Arphaxad12 · Jul 22, 2009

Hi Caty!

Please tell us right now, Do you believe Jesus and His works are from the Devil? Yes____ No_____.

Thanks,
"Arph"
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Desperaux · Jul 22, 2009

Caty said:
No, I hate the fact that I could have. But what if I'm just afraid of going to Hell & I don't care about God. I don't know. I'm so scared.

My dear, you are living in a prison of fear! Only a healing and a baptism of the Holy Spirit will conquer this in you. Jesus died to free you from such torment.

Ask Jesus to heal you now. I am praying.

Memorize this verse:

2 Timothy 1:7
For God has not given us a spirit of fear, but of power and of love and of a sound mind.

Write it down on cards and put them up all over your house--on the fridge, on your bathroom mirror, on your computer, on your bedside table--everywhere you go in a day. Read it and be encouraged every time! memorize it and believe it and recite it to yourself when you are feeling as though your thoughts and fears are getting out of control. I know it will help to stabilize your runaway anxiety.

What is at the root of all fear is a believed lie. Satan is the father of all lies, according to Jesus:

John 8:43-44
43 Why cant you understand what I am saying? Its because you cant even hear me! 44 For you are the children of your father the devil, and you love to do the evil things he does. He was a murderer from the beginning. He has always hated the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he lies, it is consistent with his character; for he is a liar and the father of lies.

Blade · Jul 23, 2009

Hello all..

Thought I would just add this and that hehe.. the pharisees wanted to keep others from following Christ. Aw.. its not so easy.. you cant LOVE him and then blasphem. Mark 9:39 But Jesus said.. forbid him not.. for there is no man which shall do a miracle in my name that can lightly speak evil of me.. different trans.. "Do not stop him," Jesus said. "No one who does a miracle in my name can in the next moment say anything bad about me,"

So I get mad.. call him names.. say whatever.. its not that easy lol..

We sometimes FORGET who were talking to. Caty.. he KNOWS.. KNOWS better than you .. your heart. You posting about this should show you right there you didnt .. ever.. never do it. And you know what.. the only sin.. FOR ME.. what will send me to Hell is NOT believeing in Jesus...

Its a LIE.. being told to you. No more no less. And you should LISTEN to US.. I dont know these others yet we speak the same.. You love Jesus.. he loves you.. .. and WE ALL have thought we blasphemed the Holy Spirit and had people pray for us.. some talked to there pastor.. lol.. its ok. NO you not like the pharisees. They wanted NOTHING to do with him.. .. let go .. let GOD.. TRUST HIM. I bind the Spirit of fear.. it is written God has not givien YOU the Spirit of fear but power, love and a sound mind! Thats what YOU have.

Caty · Jul 23, 2009

I mean whenever I can think "right it's like I know I was just scared and asking people for help. but then the fear attacks me (because i cant remember much from those times) that I might have had other motives.

Caty · Jul 23, 2009

Arphaxad12 said:
Hi Caty!

Please tell us right now, Do you believe Jesus and His works are from the Devil? Yes____ No_____.

Thanks,
"Arph"
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No, but neither did the Pharasies.

Arphaxad12 · Jul 23, 2009

Hi Caty!

Good answer!

So you do NOT believe that all the miraculous works done by the Holy Spirit through Jesus were from the Devil. Good!

So, did you ever lie to anyone by telling them that Jesus and His works were from the Devil just to save your HUGE income and great religious leadership power over some people? Yes___ No___

To do this sin, it MUST be spoken out loud to people. It cannot just be a little self-torturing "mind game." Little thrilling/edgy "mind games" don't count with God.

"Arph"
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Caty · Jul 23, 2009

No, I don't think so.
but did you read my last post. I was having a really hard time with my thoughts so I would post them on here to see if they were "forgiveable" or If I had committed this sin. and now I worry that what if I had a bad intentions whenever I posted my thoughts, I cant remember very well but I remember I would post them because I was scared but thats all I remember.

keryakos · Jul 23, 2009

Arphaxad12 said:
Hi Caty!

Good answer!

So you do NOT believe that all the miraculous works done by the Holy Spirit through Jesus were from the Devil. Good!

So, did you ever lie to anyone by telling them that Jesus and His works were from the Devil just to save your HUGE income and great religious leadership power over some people? Yes___ No___

This do this sin, it MUST be spoken out loud to people. It cannot just be a little "mind game." Thrilling "mind games" don't count with God.

"Arph"
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what if one questioned if what they said was true

Arphaxad12 · Jul 23, 2009

Hi Keryakos!

You wrote: "what if one questioned if what they said was true?" (end quote).

Could you please clarify your question.

but if you're meaning: " what if the Pharisees believed the miraculous works of the Holy Spirit done through Jesus were really done by the power of Satan. Then I offer Jesus' own words to the Pharisees: "Satan cannot cast out Satan, so by what power do your sons cast Satan out?" Therefore they shall be the proof that you definitely know by whose power I cast out devils."

And besides, if the Pharisees lost their abundant incomes and palatial homes because of all the people deciding to follow Jesus, then how could they afford an alabaster box full of precious ointment to pay the prostitute who was often freely welcomed into their homes?:
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Luk 7:37-39 And, behold, a woman in the city, which was a sinner, when she knew that [Jesus] sat at meat in the Pharisee's house, brought an alabaster box of ointment,

38 And stood at his feet behind [him] weeping, and began to wash his feet with tears, and did wipe [them] with the hairs of her head, and kissed his feet, and anointed [them] with the ointment.

39 Now when the Pharisee which had bidden him saw [it], he spake within himself, saying, This man, if he were a prophet, would have known who and what manner of woman [this is] that toucheth him: for she is a sinner.
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So the question is: How did this woman who Simon the Pharisee himself called "a sinner," ever gain admittance to Simon's palatial mansion unless she was already a "familiar face" around Simon's house? Maybe she was just a cook and a houskeeper? (Yeah, right!).

But when she saw Jesus there in Simon's house, she decided to completely change her way of living and humbly receive her salvation from Jesus, realizing with overwhelming gratitude that Jesus had made her a new person and forever cast her sins as far from her as the East is from the West.

Personally, I think she was Mary Magdelene. But that's just my opinion.

Best Blessings,
"Arph"
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keryakos · Jul 23, 2009

What i am asking is if someone questioned whether the miracles were of satan i am speaking of someone today if they questioned if they were from satan ..would they have commited the unpardonable sin ..

Caty · Jul 23, 2009

no keryakos.

keryakos · Jul 23, 2009

Caty said:
no keryakos.

And why do you say no Caty

you can call me Andy

p.s. i would post my own thread on this again but the mods will close it because of that stupid rule ...

Caty · Jul 23, 2009

because you were questioning because of your ocd, the pharasies basically did that out of spite.

Caty · Jul 23, 2009

sometimes i can find some peace and think "you were just scared and trying to find help from people" but then other times I think but "what if you were mad at God an wanted others to be also."

keryakos · Jul 23, 2009

Caty said:
because you were questioning because of your ocd, the pharasies basically did that out of spite.

but this was before ocd hit me hard i was considering judaism and i was questioning if the pharisies were right about jesus so i am scared that i actually D

DID IT then ...

keryakos · Jul 23, 2009

Caty said:
sometimes i can find some peace and think "you were just scared and trying to find help from people" but then other times I think but "what if you were mad at God an wanted others to be also."

yea i understand about not remembering thats part of my problem too

but Caty in c
your case there is a difference between out of spite trying to attack God and seeking for help even if you felt a bit angry at God as well..

Supplanter · Jul 23, 2009

keryakos said:
but this was before ocd hit me hard i was considering judaism and i was questioning if the pharisies were right about jesus so i am scared that i actually D

DID IT then ...

No, you did not commit the unpardonable sin. You would have reject Christ now for that to be the case. You guys don't have a clear picture of what you would have to be like to commit this sin. In your cases, since you both know Christ, in order to commit this sin, you would have to be actively, purposefully and hatefully denouncing Christ. Turning away from God and questioning and doubting is something that the Lord will forgive. People who commit the unpardonable sin are so hard hearted that thy can't repent. They see no remorse and nothing wrong with what they have done. And as many have said, it doubtful that anyone can even commit this sin today, except that they refuse to believe that Jesus Christ is the Son of God.

Neither of you are in that category and honestly going over it again and again won't change anything. Better to just live, let it go, and pour your energy into something else. I know. I know. The issue of OCD. You didn't commit the sin, believe it or not, you've got to move forward some way.

Norton Woman · Jul 23, 2009

Caty - there's no sin that won't be forgiven if you give heart up to Jesus. Please don't worry; that's kind of the point - you don't need to worry any more. When you are sure of your heart, say what you need to say to Him and then rest.

You know this already, so please be happy.

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