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III% Leader charged in MI governor kidnap plot said God gave him permission to murder

Discussion in 'News & Current Events (Articles Required)' started by essentialsaltes, Jan 14, 2021.

  1. essentialsaltes

    essentialsaltes Stranger in a Strange Land

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    Man charged in alleged plot to kidnap Michigan governor says God gave him permission to kill

    An accused bombmaker identified as a ringleader of an alleged plot to kidnap and harm Gov. Gretchen Whitmer claimed he had permission from God to commit murder and was the national leader of a militia group that rioted at the U.S. Capitol last week, an FBI agent said Wednesday.

    Croft is the national leader of the 3 Percenters, a small militia that participated in the Jan. 6 insurgence at the U.S. Capitol, FBI Special Agent Richard Trask said during the hearing,

    On Wednesday, they played multiple recordings that included Croft.

    “Croft was saying he was granted permission from God to commit murder, correct,” Kessler asked the FBI agent.

    “Correct,” Trask said.
     
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  2. durangodawood

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    Who's to say he's wrong?

    Regardless, we can see how there was much more at stake during the 1/6 events than just the dignity of the Capitol.
     
  3. Rene Loup

    Rene Loup Saved Wolf Among Sheep

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    Thou shalt not murder,[1] let alone government officials because that is unChrist-like.[2]

    There is a VERY big difference between true-believing Christians and those CLAIMING to be true believing Christians. Some may argue this is the 'No True Scotsman' fallacy, I call this, "Putting one's money where their mouths are."
    1. Deut. 5:17, Ex. 20:13
    2. 1 Pet. 2:11-25, Rom. 13:1-14
     
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  4. Lg2000

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    Too many people think it's god talking to them when it's just they own conscience. Religious youtubers and celebrity evangelist have a huge problem with this.
    Yeah let me hear about how your dreams are visions from god as well.
    Alot of people who claim to love Jesus , would really hate him if he was walking the earth today.
    They pick and choose the parts of Jesus they like , then ignore the ones they don't


    These guys are ridiculous. Glad they caught him before he could hurt anyone .
     
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  5. Elliewaves

    Elliewaves Untouchable internet saint

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    God or a dog? Maybe he's dyslexic?
     
  6. pescador

    pescador Newbie Supporter

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    God does not tell people to commit murder. That is right from Satan.
     
  7. Larnievc

    Larnievc Well-Known Member

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    Yeah, this is why many people in my country give religious people a wide berth.
     
  8. durangodawood

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    Thats a matter of faith obviously. The bomb maker for Trump Christian believes differently.
     
  9. Larnievc

    Larnievc Well-Known Member

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    Problem is this guy and people like that Joseph Kony fella would just as easily argue that you are not a True Christian.
     
  10. Larnievc

    Larnievc Well-Known Member

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    He has done, though. Kids, too.
     
  11. Lg2000

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    it's not like it's some kinda commandment right .
    The 10 suggestions is more like it .
     
  12. durangodawood

    durangodawood Dis Member

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    Yeah the message is so mixed that you have to rely on your own conscience, if you have one.
     
  13. Larnievc

    Larnievc Well-Known Member

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    True I kill as many kids as I feel like.

    Obs that’s none.
     
  14. GreatLakes4Ever

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    Who told Abraham to kill Isaac?
     
  15. MIDutch

    MIDutch Well-Known Member

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  16. NerdGirl

    NerdGirl The untamed daughter

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    Congratulations, he's crazy. Glad he was arrested. Next story, please.
     
  17. Tinker Grey

    Tinker Grey Wanderer Supporter

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    Erm ... @Larnievc label shows 'atheist'. And it's a quote borrowed, knowingly or not, from Penn Jillette. Penn Jillette Rapes All the Women He Wants To - The Interrobang

     
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  18. MIDutch

    MIDutch Well-Known Member

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  19. MIDutch

    MIDutch Well-Known Member

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    My apologies to Larnievc for misunderstanding your post.
     
  20. Nithavela

    Nithavela Inexplicably high, inexplicably low

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    God does not tell people to murder. If he tells people to kill other people, it's not murder.

    Checkmate, atheists.
     
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