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I understood what you were objecting to, and tried to expand on why I said what I said. Interesting that you did not address anything else, other than my original statement.
I don't view prayer primarily as a means of 'getting something from God'. Do we pray for His provision? Of course, and Jesus did tell us to do that. Do we pray for His protection? Of course, and we are encouraged to do that in Scripture. But is that all that prayer is about? NO, and that's what I am trying to bring out. It is said that 'prayer changes things', and while that may be true, prayer also changes YOU.
Why is there this knee-jerk reaction against Calvinists (or perceived Calvinists) that prevents non-Calvinists from agreeing with anything they say? Address the rest of what I said.
Even in our prayers to "get God to do what we want" (which seems to be Oz's position), we still aren't praying to get God to change His mind, unless one looks at the Matt passage superficially. If I'm asking God for provision or protection, it acknowledges that God is the provider of those things. So it does serve to change me from independent (natural) do dependent (spiritual).
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