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If you do not eat pork, Christ will profit you nothing

Discussion in 'General Theology' started by LittleLambofJesus, May 28, 2013.

  1. annier

    annier Guest

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    I am hesitant to even continue to attempt a discussion at this point. You do not deal with what people post.
    God did not give instructions concerning poisonous plants to Israel. Therefore Kosher is not about ""HEALTH ISSUES". That is a real simple concept.
    Gentiles are also Children of God in Christ, not just Jews.
    So, getting back to my original comments about HEALTH. Plants which are not healthy are not fobidden by law as unclean. Therefore "health" is not the issue with kosher.


    Yes, he did say this. And in reference to this He also said to Noah,,,
    Ge 9:3 Every moving thing that liveth shall be meat for you; even as the green herb have I given you all things.

    Just as God gave the ALL the green herb and fruits in the beginning to be created for food to eat, he likewise gave all animals as well to Noah for food.
    The point is.....It was not because he LOVED some and did not Love some others, AS YOU PUT FORTH. God chose to set some apart as MORE HOLY by those things is all. Not all were equal in their eating and not all were equal in their "holiness" before God. As is the case with Israel as a nation divided from other people by the commands of Kosher. Just as the priests were set apart from the common people of Israel, so too, was Israel set apart from other nations. The people of Israel did not need "to do" as the priests, to be "HOLY", anymore than Gentiles in Christ, need to do as Israelites to be "HOLY".
    Therefore, with this concept of the priests being separated <914> from the common people of Israel to be HOLIER, carries no such ideas as you suppose of loving vs hating one group over another

    ****The people of Israel separated, divided from other nations to be his.

    Lev 20:24 But I have said unto you, Ye shall inherit their land, and I will give it unto you to possess it, a land that floweth with milk and honey: I am the LORD your God, which have separated <0914> you from other people.
    25 Ye shall therefore put difference <0914> between clean beasts and unclean, and between unclean fowls and clean: and ye shall not make your souls abominable by beast, or by fowl, or by any manner of living thing that creepeth on the ground, which I have separated <0914> from you as unclean.
    26 And ye shall be holy unto me: for I the LORD am holy, and have severed <0914> you from other people, that ye should be mine.

    ****** The PRIESTS, separated, divided from the people of Israel to be his

    Nu 8:14 Thus shalt thou separate <0914> the Levites from among the children of Israel: and the Levites shall be mine.
    Nu 16:9 Seemeth it but a small thing unto you, that the God of Israel hath separated <0914> you from the congregation of Israel, to bring you near to himself to do the service of the tabernacle of the LORD, and to stand before the congregation to minister unto them?

    So, do you Obey the law of concerning Marriage? Are you obligating males to marry their childless widow to bear offspring to him? Are you allowing yourself more than one wife as well?
     
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  2. LittleLambofJesus

    LittleLambofJesus PESKY DEVIL! GIT! l SAID GIT! Supporter

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    :)
    Ya gotta learn to read between the lines :p
    Seems like I recall some "how damaging is......" threads awhile back.
    One in particular regarding the sabbatarian MJ movement comes to mind:

    http://www.christianforums.com/t5546846-54/
    How damaging is the Messianic Movement




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  3. YeShallTread

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    I'm sorry you feel that way. I try to always reply to each of your points.



    The connection you're making isn't valid.




    That is my point. When we are children of God in Christ there is no difference. What pertains to one pertains to all.





    LOL. It is all about health.

    Please consider what you're saying.

    Genesis 9:3 Every moving thing that liveth shall be meat for you; even as the green herb have I given you all things.
    EVERY moving that that LIVETH shall be meat for you. Every moving thing that liveth. Really? Are you sure you're understanding that properly?



    If that is what you think then be happy being separated.




    I am a wife and actually...wouldn't mind a few more of us being around. A wife that enjoyed cooking would be nice. :)
     
  4. Harry3142

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    I Like pork chops and sauerkraut, pulled pork sandwiches, ham, pork roast, and, of course, bacon.
     
  5. rockytopva

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    MoreCoffee Repentance works.

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  7. Setyoufree

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    I believe you've taken this out of context. Pork is not the best food...in fact all scavengers are not the best to eat. God didn't clean them...they are the garbage collectors. It's not a salvation issue, it's a health issue.
     
  8. LittleLambofJesus

    LittleLambofJesus PESKY DEVIL! GIT! l SAID GIT! Supporter

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    Nah...bratwurst, polish or elgin sausage, is best with sauerkraut :thumbsup:

    Sgt Schultz: "What, no sauerkraut?!?!??"

    [​IMG].....[​IMG]




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  9. annier

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    This is not a valid "reply"




    Again, an invalid reply. You completely ignored the levels of holiness varied . Therefore no, what applied to one did not apply to all.



    Invalid reply
    I have considered it. The problem is you won't. We are done here.
     
  10. bugkiller

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    Which of your points are valid? The one you proclaim?
    I love the way the Scripture is twisted.
    Naw.
    The question is are you? I would love to see you parse the passage for us.
    No kidding. Especially if she is a good cook. Dad said marry for cooking and not looks.

    bugkiller
     
  11. bugkiller

    bugkiller Well-Known Member

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    Bull - it is neither.

    bugkiller
     
  12. Rev Randy

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    Then we'll serve chitterlings and grits.
     
  13. astein

    astein Well-Known Member

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    Haha. God loves non-pork eaters.
     
  14. Lollerskates

    Lollerskates Junior Member

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    Personally, I would starve, especially knowing how filthy they are. I would do better eating my own fecal matter.
     
  15. Rev Randy

    Rev Randy Sometimes I pretend to be normal

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    Fried in lard?
     
  16. astein

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    God is good friend. God forbid any eat their own "fecal matter" for nourishment. God blesses deer.
     
  17. Lollerskates

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    I would rather eat my own fecal matter fried in vasoline than eat a pork chop, bacon, belly, chitterlings - any part of a pig - fried in the most pure oil kissed by an angel.

    They eat their own feces, roaches, bugs, other animal's fecal matter, mud, parasites, and they will eat you if you stand still long enough. They taste salty because their meat is toxic. It would be safer to eat the fecal matter of any vegetarian (animal or human) than it would be to eat the most organic, cleanest-fed pig in the world.
     
  18. Rev Randy

    Rev Randy Sometimes I pretend to be normal

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    I would hope you don't eat chicken then. They do the same.
    Odd. I thought is was because they had sodium in them. Just like all mammals. So why does lamb taste salty?
     
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  19. Lollerskates

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    Chickens eat their own feces if they are vertically farmed, like most fast-food KFC/Churches/ETC chicken is. That is an issue on care, not metabolic processes. Swine store most of their toxins in their meat (as well as plenty of parasites, including the infamous trichina worms

    Free range chickens do not necessarily eat their own fecal matter, but they are still equipped with better digestive and purifying functions than swine. Chickens do not store a majority of toxins in their meat, especially if they are free-ranged and not full of fear hormones (or antibiotics.) There is a reason why God chose certain animals as clean - regardless of what they eat. It is because 1) HE made them, and 2) He knows how they metabolize toxins, and waste. Fish with fins and scales are an example of a clean meat with excellent waste management (i.e. wastes aren't stored in the meat.)

    I don't know what kind of lamb you have been eating***, or who has been making it for you, but lamb has an incredibly earthy taste - like licking the armpit of a lamb. You add spices (like cinnamon) to lamb to get rid of the gaminess, THEN you can add salt, pepper, etc. Lambs are some of the cleanest creature to eat.

    Of course, grass-fed free ranged cows (that are given no rBST hormones for milk production) are also very clean. Eating mostly grass and a bit of grain, their four stomachs ensure a very clean process of nutrient absorption, and waste management.

    I rarely eat meat, but when I do it is: grass-fed, free-range chicken, grass fed free ranged beef, or lamb meat from New Zealand. Other than that, I eat non-genetically modified vegetables and oils (mainly Olive oil.)

    But, hey if you want to eat pork I cant and wont stop you. [I am assuming] You are grown, so you make your own choices. I prefer not to eat it - even if I was starving.
     
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  20. Rev Randy

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    Since you use the word "prefer" more power to you. Now I have as of yet met a chicken who wouldn't chase down a cockroach, or even a junebug. All warm blooded and some cold blooded creatures have a bit of a salty taste.
    I've heard some say lamb is gamey but I only find that in the grown ones. I do know a farm raising sheep has just as an offensive odor as a pig farm. Doesn't smell like armpit to me.^_^ More like that stuff you'd rather eat than pork.;)
    Cinnamon? Haven't tried that. Sounds good. I use tarragon or rosemary usually. I skip the mint jelly.
     
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