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Discussion in 'Deeper Fellowship' started by Walter and Deborah, Jul 18, 2017.

  1. Walter and Deborah

    Walter and Deborah Junior Member

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    John 15:7-8 King James Version (KJV)
    I wonder if everyone take heed of the below words, would it be a better place to dwell, even without The wicked one/devil having any part/place?

    Jesus Said:

    7 If ye abide in me, and my words abide in you, ye shall ask what ye will, and it shall be done unto you.

    8 Herein is my Father glorified, that ye bear much fruit; so shall ye be my disciples.
     
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    What is the question of the OP?
     
  3. yeshuaslavejeff

    yeshuaslavejeff simple truth, martyr, disciple of Yahshua

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    OF COURSE!

    Even with the devil roaming and controlling everywhere,

    whenever people follow Jesus, they are free of the sin, guilt, shame and power of the devil, the world and the flesh.....

    Few people take heed. (free will is not taken from them, and they choose darkness instead of LIGHT (JESUS) ..... )
     
  4. Walter and Deborah

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    Excuse me but, This is the question: I wonder if everyone take heed of the below words, would it be a better place to dwell, even without The wicked one/devil having any part/place?

    John 15:7-8 King James Version (KJV)
    7 If ye abide in me, and my words abide in you, ye shall ask what ye will, and it shall be done unto you.

    8 Herein is my Father glorified, that ye bear much fruit; so shall ye be my disciples.
     
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  5. Walter and Deborah

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    I would think that as the scriptures have said: There is a time for everything: Ecclesiastes 3:1-22.
     
  6. yeshuaslavejeff

    yeshuaslavejeff simple truth, martyr, disciple of Yahshua

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    Meaning what ?
    What is it time for today ? (for instance)
     
  7. Walter and Deborah

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    Did you read Eccl. 3:16, 17 ?
    From Dust to Dust

    16 And moreover I saw under the sun the place of judgment, that wickedness was there; and the place of righteousness, that iniquity was there. 17 I said in mine heart, God shall judge the righteous and the wicked: for there is a time there for every purpose and for every work.

    To me it means that the above is saying exactly what is happening in todays life.
     
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  8. now faith

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    I love this passage!
    It is a promise from Christ ,that is similar to Mark ch 11.
    With great comfort we know all the promises of God are yes and amen.
    This is a promise from God!
    It makes you want to go deeper into the Word ,to soak all we can of the spirtual blessings of Christ.
     
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  9. now faith

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    This is a believers promise, that has 2 conditions.
    If we want it it's ours,but as for today so many hold fast to their theology rather than this simple truth.
    You may want to abide in Christ,you may be a faithful Church member.
    To abide in Christ we must walk by Faith.
    Faith cometh by hearing and hearing by the Word of God.
     
  10. yeshuaslavejeff

    yeshuaslavejeff simple truth, martyr, disciple of Yahshua

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    A LOT (MULTITUDES) "want it", and it is not theirs.
    They still until the day they die believe it is theirs, but find out it is not theirs directly from the JUDGE, after they die when it is too late to repent or be forgiven.
     
  11. now faith

    now faith Veteran Supporter

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    Who can take it from them?
    What can take it from them?

    What qualifications do they need to not think they have it but truly have it?
    How can they buy what cannot be sold?

    Ephesians: 2. 8. For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God: 9. Not of works, lest any man should boast.

    It still remains a believers promise,because Christ's word is not in nonbelievers.
    And we have no good reason to assume our Brothers and Sisters in Christ are any thing less.
     
  12. yeshuaslavejeff

    yeshuaslavejeff simple truth, martyr, disciple of Yahshua

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    No one needs to take it from them.
    Many might have kept them from finding the Kingdom.
    Since they don't live in the Kingdom, no one and no thing needs to take it from them - they are not in the Kingdom, God's Kingdom.
     
  13. now faith

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    So be it.
    Our Lord said if ....
    It is conditional upon salvation.
    But I do not see the unsaved mature enough to understand this in the first place.
    The natural man diserneth not the things of the Spirit.
    (Paraphrase)

    So really I suppose keeping another thread that I started in mind,a person can be deceived into damnation but will go their by their own choice,and for their own motives.
    Yet this text is a promise from God to us,a wonderful promise that should be recieved by any one who is in Christ.
     
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