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Featured if we are sons of God, are we gods too?

Discussion in 'General Theology' started by gustavchristianartist, Aug 11, 2017.

  1. gustavchristianartist

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  3. RGW00

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    If you read the NIV of the Bible, you notice that during this time "gods" meant jewels or rings or earrings. He is telling us we are jewels if we follow Him, for He values us because we are His.
     
  4. Haipule

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    You are a son of the living God! You have all the rights, privileges, honor and responsibilities to go with that title.
     
  5. RGW00

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    Here are the verses concerning the proof that gods were valuable objects in the Bible.

    Read each of these in the NIV, I am not for sure if it's in the other versions.

    Genesis 31:19
    Genesis 31:30
    Genesis 31:32

    Look throughout this chapter and you'll see what I'm talking about. Be sure to read it in the NIV
     
  6. Handmaid for Jesus

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    To answer your question, you have to decide if Lord Jesus is God. Then once you are certain about that answer you have to decide if what Lord Jesus said in the gospels is the truth. Once you have decided the answer to that,you have to meditate these words that speaks to your identity in Christ.
    Ephesians 5:30 For we are members of his body, of his flesh, and of his bones.
    John 15:5 I am the vine, ye are the branches: He that abideth in me, and I in him, the same bringeth forth much fruit: for without me ye can do nothing.
     
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  7. RGW00

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    I don't quite get what you mean. This didn't have anything to do with my post. I believe this too, this just had nothing to do with what I was saying.
     
  8. JESUS=G.O.A.T

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    1. Well for starters the little "g" is used here

    2. Psalms 82 is referring to unjust judges and the term "god" outside the use for idol gods means either servants of god when it's applied or in this case most likely the other way it's used in a few scriptures political leaders appointed by God. Sometimes you see God though placed over angels as well or a figure aka manifestation of God but that's besides hte point


    Now I had to go back and look at the verse before this one...and I feel many should do this to get what i'm about to say.

    John 10:33-34King James Version (KJV)
    33 The Jews answered him, saying, For a good work we stone thee not; but for blasphemy; and because that thou, being a man, makest thyself God.

    34 Jesus answered them, Is it not written in your law, I said, Ye are gods?



    Comment: So JESUS is referencing those judges being called "god" in the ot scriptures in their law/political system whatever you want to call it and how the title itself is even more suitable for him.
     
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  9. RGW00

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    This is true in this context. There are other verse that talk about gods as being jewels, and I think that's just what that's for. In that context, you are correct.
     
  10. Cassidy Bennett

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    We are "gods" because we are created in the image of God by God. He created his own image, which is also why he doesn't want us praising images. We serve others bc they are created in the image of God.

    As gods we are a ALL able to rule the earth. God allows us to decide for ourselves if we will choose his ways. We can forgive, create, dream, etc. We are essentially " little gods." We can worship each other (as long as its not breaking God's law). We worship the almighty God bc there's no one higher to praise.

    The other part of that is that we are "children of God" bc we are all one and Jesus is included in it.

    In my opinion it does not mean only the rulers like the website indicates. Parts of it is for the judges/ rulers.

    This part is for all of us.
    "I said, “You are gods, sons of the Most High, all of you"

    Jesus was defending himself for "blaspheming". He was not a king in their eyes.

    Then he says....
    35If he called them ‘gods,’ to whom the word of God came—and Scripture cannot be set aside—36what about the one whom the Father set apart as his very own and sent into the world? Why then do you accuse me of blasphemy because I said, ‘I am God’s Son’? 37

    He would not say " them" when talking to the rulers. He would say "you." And like I said God created all of us to rule so that logic doesn't make much sense anyway.

    " I have called them "gods" to whom the word of the Lord came." All of us.
     
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  11. JESUS=G.O.A.T

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    agreed "god" is used in different context at times such as the one you mention. Good thing for us all to consider when reading.
     
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  13. gustavchristianartist

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    it's related to your post because if we are in the body of christ we are part of him

    but there he is answering about he calling himself God

    i believe this

    you are just being intolerant with that manners
     
  14. Viren

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    Yes, based on Psalm 82:6. The verse specifies that "gods" in this case means sons of God.
     
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    Jesus (in John) is pointing out what is written in their law (making reference to the Psalmists words there)

    As is written in Psalms 82:6 (that exact way) which reads,

    Psalms 82:6 I have said, "Ye"are gods; and all of you are children of the most High.

    After quoting that (from the Psalm) Jesus continues saying,

    John 10:35 If he called "them" gods,
    unto whom "the word of God" came
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    and the scripture cannot be broken;

    John 10:36 Say ye "of him", whom the Father hath sanctified, and sent into the world,
    Thou blasphemest; because I said, I am the Son of God
    ?

    Jesus is pointing out that he was saying he is "the Son of God"
    whereas they are saying (in his doing just that) as they understood it "that he blasphemed"
    and because that thou, being a man, makest thyself God John 10:33

    When
    it is actually written in their own law

    Psalms 82:6 Have I not said, "Ye"are gods; and all of you are children of the most High.

    And that is what he is quoting to them in the context of that confrontation there.

    So one might wonder, what was their particular beef with him "in that". Especially in light of what is shown equally so in the Psalm as Jesus chose to quote from that there specifically (which again says) "Ye are gods" which is depicting there the same as it relates to "the children of the most High" there. Even as he himself is saying "I am the Son of God" (the one the Father has sanctified and sent into the world) whom they believed not (nor the record of God) concerning His Son.
    So if that saying is true of the children then how much more would it be true of Him? Jesus Christ (the Son) of God.
    Not to mention as Hebrews 1:8 which bounces off of Psalms 45:6-7 in respects to Christ being ascended there where God "thy God" is spoken to the Son God and who calls the Son God even there.
    Which verse of scripture Christ did not bring up at that particular point of time (but we are given to see this after the fact). But you would have thought that Christ would have quoted the later that was really declared later by the resurrection.
     
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  16. RGW00

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    Yes I agree but that doesn't make us gods. We are disciples of God. And we follow Jesus. Every time He mentions that we are gods in those verses it's referring to the fact that we must be like God in decisions we make. But we are from being a god. A lot of people that don't follow God think they are gods themselves with the decisions they make.
     
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    They were called "gods" not in the sense of being deity, but in the sense of being judges/rulers/authorities. The Bible is very clear that there is, always has been, and always will be ONLY one true God. Isaiah 43:10-11; Isaiah 44:6-8; Isaiah 45:5; Isaiah 45:21,22, and Isaiah 46:9-10. I knew these memory verses would come in handy for something like this one day. Father, please give this one a clearer understanding of these verses on this post. Amen.
     
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  19. JESUS=G.O.A.T

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    Yes he is answering about himself being God after they question him about it but he's doing this by reciting the fact that they are ironically ok with judges holding such a title in their law yet for some reason they have an issue with Jesus who's above them holding this title. Was just a lot of irony there
     
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