If the Bible is true science MUST get the age wrong.

[Tomk80]

Once again we see that once dad hoc has entered a thread rational discussion become virtually impossible. Maybe we should just leave dad alone in his little fantasy world.

F.B.

That's why people like Edmond, John Crawford, dad and Kent Hovind are important. Because they show the utter bankrupcy of YEC even to people with only half a brain.

 

[dad]

They do if they travel a long time.

No, they don't unless we know how long they traveled.

Present observations of the fossil record tell us about the past thousands and millions of years ago.

No they tell us of a migration from Eden thousands of years ago of created creatures! You just assume that the little things on the bottom of the record were evolutionary relatives of the poor creatures who died higher in the record. That is nothing! That is belief, and assumption.

Present observations of galaxies millions (or even billions) of light years away tell us about the past millions (or even billions) of years ago.

Certainly not, they tell of distances, and a physical only universe, and it's paltry light properties, like speed. Po observations good only as far as the Po universe goes, and that is not very far, and you cannot say otherwise with any science in this planet!

 

[funyun]

Default is meaningless if not evidenced, and supported. As it is it is merely de faulty position! Observations of the present do not tell the future or far past. Remember that.

Do you know what methodology is? Please feel free to give me a definition without looking it up.

Old agedy Dumpty sat on a wall
This Humpty Evo, he had a great fall
And all PO horses, and all PO men
Couldn't put old ages together again

Nice. When you get that evidence together, give me a ring.

Thats why he's with me.

Asked him, did you?

What else would God write, via possesing and inspiring men, chopped liver?

You roll in circular reasoning like Bill Gates rolls in dough.

He did, He does, and He will. I am.

Then let's stop pussyfooting around and you show it to me. What's wrong, you can't find it? Did you misplace it? Did it get lost somewhere? Surely you can conjure it out of thin air again.

You invent a problem for me, then set yourself up as hlier than thou. Good move, kid.

Holier than thou? If that is not the pot calling the kettle black, I don't know what is.

 

[dad]

That's why people like Edmond, John Crawford, dad and Kent Hovind are important. Because they show the utter bankrupcy of YEC even to people with only half a brain.

No one has half a brain. You only have half an arguement though, the PO half! Some people are getting fed up with you fantasizing the other half with Godless deark death scenarios that are baseless! You have nothing from the 'real' bank you can draw on, so wish to evangelize all with your fables you made up!

 

[Tomk80]

No, they don't unless we know how long they traveled.

We know their distance and we know the speed of light. Guess what we can do then.

No they tell us of a migration from Eden thousands of years ago of created creatures! You just assume that the little things on the bottom of the record were evolutionary relatives of the poor creatures who died higher in the record. That is nothing! That is belief, and assumption.

Nope, that's the result of applying critical thinking to the fossil record. Claiming the fossil record shows a migration from Eden is ignorance, belief and assumption.

Certainly not, they tell of distances, and a physical only universe, and it's paltry light properties, like speed. Po observations good only as far as the Po universe goes, and that is not very far, and you cannot say otherwise with any science in this planet!

Since their is no evidence of a split, and you have never provided evidence of a split, other than your deranged ramblings, 'physical only' does quite nicely. As soon as you start producing some evidence for the 'split' of yours, we can talk again.

 

[Tomk80]

No one has half a brain. You only have half an arguement though, the PO half! Some people are getting fed up with you fantasizing the other half with Godless deark death scenarios that are baseless! You have nothing from the 'real' bank you can draw on, so wish to evangelize all with your fables you made up!

Keep going, dad, just keep going. I need not do any evangelizing. Even if I wanted to, the only thing I need to do is point at you.

 

[dad]

Do you know what methodology is? Please feel free to give me a definition without looking it up.

It is something that can be right or wrong, used for good, or abused toward old ageism.

Nice. When you get that evidence together, give me a ring.

Sorry, I am married.

Asked him, did you?

I know some of these things. Must be a gift.

You roll in circular reasoning like Bill Gates rolls in dough.

Smells better than what evos roll in.

Then let's stop pussyfooting around and you show it to me. What's wrong, you can't find it? Did you misplace it? Did it get lost somewhere? Surely you can conjure it out of thin air again.

The bible is well known to be well founded. You are the high wire act.

Holier than thou? If that is not the pot calling the kettle black, I don't know what is.

I agree, you don't know what is.

 

[dad]

We know their distance and we know the speed of light. Guess what we can do then.

..Assume that that is the only light that ever was in a PO universe that did not exist. No need to guess!

Nope, that's the result of applying critical thinking to the fossil record. Claiming the fossil record shows a migration from Eden is ignorance, belief and assumption.

No, you are just critical in your so called thinking.

Since their is no evidence of a split, and you have never provided evidence of a split,

As much evidence of a split as for Granny, or no split.

'physical only' does quite nicely.

I have no complaints, seems to work alright temporarily. Just don't try to astral project it into the future or past. No can do.

 

[dad]

Keep going, dad, just keep going. I need not do any evangelizing. Even if I wanted to, the only thing I need to do is point at you.

If that's your best shot, point away.

 

[Tomk80]

..Assume that that is the only light that ever was in a PO universe that did not exist. No need to guess!

This sentence makes no sense.

No, you are just critical in your so called thinking.

Indeed, I am critical in my thinking. I think it's a lot better than your ad hockery.

As much evidence of a split as for Granny, or no split.


I have no complaints, seems to work alright temporarily. Just don't try to astral project it into the future or past. No can do.

So, are we going to see that evidence of a split, dad?

 

[funyun]

It is something that can be right or wrong, used for good, or abused toward old ageism.

Beep. Wrong. You lose. Next up...

Sorry, I am married.

Ok, keep stalling. Next up...

I know some of these things. Must be a gift.

Got it for Christmas, did you? You should send it back. It's broken. Next up...

Smells better than what evos roll in.

Yeah, sometimes the truth isn't pretty. But it's still the truth. Next up...

The bible is well known to be well founded. You are the high wire act.

At least I'm not the dancing juggler. Next up...

I agree, you don't know what is.

Always better to be wrong for the right reasons than right for the wrong reasons.

 

[JRNetwork]

Hmm... No

 

[dad]

This sentence makes no sense.

There was another light than the present one in the spiritual/physical iuniverse, and it got here from the furthest stars in days or hours, or weeks.

Indeed, I am critical in my thinking. I think it's a lot better than your ad hockery.

You echo words programmed in, in the fantasy factory, and put a little spit into it, as if it's your own ideas!

So, are we going to see that evidence of a split, dad?

I present to you conclusive evidence, we now live in a PO universe, care to challenge that?

 

[dad]

Beep. Wrong. You lose. Next up...

OK, road runner, whatever you say.

Ok, keep stalling. Next up...

Boy, you really knock the replies off in a hurry, how do you do it?

Got it for Christmas, did you? You should send it back. It's broken. Next up...

If my knowledge is not a gift, fine, if you have something other than beep beep, or next up, you might get somewhere. Too much holiday sugar perhaps? Or do you just need to use the washroom, and need to post in a hurry?

Yeah, sometimes the truth isn't pretty. But it's still the truth. Next up...

So what you roll in ain't pretty. Ever ask yourself why bother rolling in it?

At least I'm not the dancing juggler. Next up...

Careful up there, high wire Humpty, with just the one PO leg and all.

Always better to be wrong for the right reasons than right for the wrong reasons.

So what right reason do you think you are wrong for?

 

[Frumious Bandersnatch]

There was another light than the present one in the spiritual/physical iuniverse, and it got here from the furthest stars in days or hours, or weeks.


You echo words programmed in, in the fantasy factory, and put a little spit into it, as if it's your own ideas!

I present to you conclusive evidence, we now live in a PO universe, care to challenge that?

And that Physical Only universe has been around billions of years. The scientific evidence supporting that is overwhelming. Your only challenge to that is your pecular fantasies based on your pecular interpretation of Genesis. You do nothing but make up dad hoc irrationalizations as you go along to try to get around the mountain of inconvenient facts that show YEC false.

F.B.

 

[dad]

And that Physical Only universe has been around billions of years.

No, in fact only thousands of years.

The scientific evidence supporting that is overwhelming.

Not one iota, or shred or speck exists now or ever will. You flatter yourself and your delusions by calling your biased, belief based interpretation of evidence more than it is! The jigs up.

Your only challenge to that is your pecular fantasies based on your pecular interpretation of Genesis.

Vica versa, your fantasies came up against His word, and got slapped down something fierce.

You do nothing but make up dad hoc irrationalizations as you go along to try to get around the mountain of inconvenient facts that show YEC false.

Don't make a mountain out of your imagination. I don't even need to break my pace to march over the little smelly mound you can raise.

 

[Frumious Bandersnatch]

How about a contest to see who can get dad to say the most absurd thing in response to a challenge? I guess it would pretty hard to top some of the stuff he as already come up with but you never know.

F.B.

 

[funyun]

How about a contest to see who can get dad to say the most absurd thing in response to a challenge? I guess it would pretty hard to top some of the stuff he as already come up with but you never know.

That's what I've been doing the past several responses...just trying to see how hard I can push to see how far he'll go. You keep responding to his posts long enough, I bet you could get him to say the moon is made of cheese.

 

[dad]

That's what I've been doing the past several responses...just trying to see how hard I can push to see how far he'll go. You keep responding to his posts long enough, I bet you could get him to say the moon is made of cheese.

Aw, poor evos seem a little off balance, and looking for a little help from each other. Touching.

 

[Frumious Bandersnatch]

That's what I've been doing the past several responses...just trying to see how hard I can push to see how far he'll go. You keep responding to his posts long enough, I bet you could get him to say the moon is made of cheese.

Maybe with a diamond in the center.

F.B.