That's why people like Edmond, John Crawford, dad and Kent Hovind are important. Because they show the utter bankrupcy of YEC even to people with only half a brain.Frumious Bandersnatch said:
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That's why people like Edmond, John Crawford, dad and Kent Hovind are important. Because they show the utter bankrupcy of YEC even to people with only half a brain.Frumious Bandersnatch said:Once again we see that once dad hoc has entered a thread rational discussion become virtually impossible. Maybe we should just leave dad alone in his little fantasy world.
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No, they don't unless we know how long they traveled.Tomk80 said:They do if they travel a long time.
No they tell us of a migration from Eden thousands of years ago of created creatures! You just assume that the little things on the bottom of the record were evolutionary relatives of the poor creatures who died higher in the record. That is nothing! That is belief, and assumption.Present observations of the fossil record tell us about the past thousands and millions of years ago.
Certainly not, they tell of distances, and a physical only universe, and it's paltry light properties, like speed. Po observations good only as far as the Po universe goes, and that is not very far, and you cannot say otherwise with any science in this planet!Present observations of galaxies millions (or even billions) of light years away tell us about the past millions (or even billions) of years ago.
dad said:Default is meaningless if not evidenced, and supported. As it is it is merely de faulty position! Observations of the present do not tell the future or far past. Remember that.
dad said:Old agedy Dumpty sat on a wall
This Humpty Evo, he had a great fall
And all PO horses, and all PO men
Couldn't put old ages together again
dad said:Thats why he's with me.
dad said:What else would God write, via possesing and inspiring men, chopped liver?
dad said:He did, He does, and He will. I am.
dad said:You invent a problem for me, then set yourself up as hlier than thou. Good move, kid.
No one has half a brain. You only have half an arguement though, the PO half! Some people are getting fed up with you fantasizing the other half with Godless deark death scenarios that are baseless! You have nothing from the 'real' bank you can draw on, so wish to evangelize all with your fables you made up!Tomk80 said:That's why people like Edmond, John Crawford, dad and Kent Hovind are important. Because they show the utter bankrupcy of YEC even to people with only half a brain.
We know their distance and we know the speed of light. Guess what we can do then.dad said:No, they don't unless we know how long they traveled.
Nope, that's the result of applying critical thinking to the fossil record. Claiming the fossil record shows a migration from Eden is ignorance, belief and assumption.No they tell us of a migration from Eden thousands of years ago of created creatures! You just assume that the little things on the bottom of the record were evolutionary relatives of the poor creatures who died higher in the record. That is nothing! That is belief, and assumption.
Since their is no evidence of a split, and you have never provided evidence of a split, other than your deranged ramblings, 'physical only' does quite nicely. As soon as you start producing some evidence for the 'split' of yours, we can talk again.Certainly not, they tell of distances, and a physical only universe, and it's paltry light properties, like speed. Po observations good only as far as the Po universe goes, and that is not very far, and you cannot say otherwise with any science in this planet!
Keep going, dad, just keep going. I need not do any evangelizing. Even if I wanted to, the only thing I need to do is point at you.dad said:No one has half a brain. You only have half an arguement though, the PO half! Some people are getting fed up with you fantasizing the other half with Godless deark death scenarios that are baseless! You have nothing from the 'real' bank you can draw on, so wish to evangelize all with your fables you made up!
It is something that can be right or wrong, used for good, or abused toward old ageism.funyun said:Do you know what methodology is? Please feel free to give me a definition without looking it up.
Sorry, I am married.Nice. When you get that evidence together, give me a ring.
I know some of these things. Must be a gift.Asked him, did you?
Smells better than what evos roll in.You roll in circular reasoning like Bill Gates rolls in dough.
The bible is well known to be well founded. You are the high wire act.Then let's stop pussyfooting around and you show it to me. What's wrong, you can't find it? Did you misplace it? Did it get lost somewhere? Surely you can conjure it out of thin air again.
I agree, you don't know what is.Holier than thou? If that is not the pot calling the kettle black, I don't know what is.
..Assume that that is the only light that ever was in a PO universe that did not exist. No need to guess!Tomk80 said:We know their distance and we know the speed of light. Guess what we can do then.
No, you are just critical in your so called thinking.Nope, that's the result of applying critical thinking to the fossil record. Claiming the fossil record shows a migration from Eden is ignorance, belief and assumption.
As much evidence of a split as for Granny, or no split.Since their is no evidence of a split, and you have never provided evidence of a split,
I have no complaints, seems to work alright temporarily. Just don't try to astral project it into the future or past. No can do.'physical only' does quite nicely.
If that's your best shot, point away.Tomk80 said:Keep going, dad, just keep going. I need not do any evangelizing. Even if I wanted to, the only thing I need to do is point at you.
dad said:This sentence makes no sense...Assume that that is the only light that ever was in a PO universe that did not exist. No need to guess!
Indeed, I am critical in my thinking. I think it's a lot better than your ad hockery.No, you are just critical in your so called thinking.
So, are we going to see that evidence of a split, dad?As much evidence of a split as for Granny, or no split.
I have no complaints, seems to work alright temporarily. Just don't try to astral project it into the future or past. No can do.
dad said:It is something that can be right or wrong, used for good, or abused toward old ageism.
dad said:Sorry, I am married.
dad said:I know some of these things. Must be a gift.
dad said:Smells better than what evos roll in.
dad said:The bible is well known to be well founded. You are the high wire act.
dad said:I agree, you don't know what is.
There was another light than the present one in the spiritual/physical iuniverse, and it got here from the furthest stars in days or hours, or weeks.Tomk80 said:This sentence makes no sense.
You echo words programmed in, in the fantasy factory, and put a little spit into it, as if it's your own ideas!Indeed, I am critical in my thinking. I think it's a lot better than your ad hockery.
I present to you conclusive evidence, we now live in a PO universe, care to challenge that?So, are we going to see that evidence of a split, dad?
OK, road runner, whatever you say.funyun said:Beep. Wrong. You lose. Next up...
Boy, you really knock the replies off in a hurry, how do you do it?Ok, keep stalling. Next up...
If my knowledge is not a gift, fine, if you have something other than beep beep, or next up, you might get somewhere. Too much holiday sugar perhaps? Or do you just need to use the washroom, and need to post in a hurry?Got it for Christmas, did you? You should send it back. It's broken. Next up...
So what you roll in ain't pretty. Ever ask yourself why bother rolling in it?Yeah, sometimes the truth isn't pretty. But it's still the truth. Next up...
Careful up there, high wire Humpty, with just the one PO leg and all.At least I'm not the dancing juggler. Next up...
So what right reason do you think you are wrong for?Always better to be wrong for the right reasons than right for the wrong reasons.
And that Physical Only universe has been around billions of years. The scientific evidence supporting that is overwhelming. Your only challenge to that is your pecular fantasies based on your pecular interpretation of Genesis. You do nothing but make up dad hoc irrationalizations as you go along to try to get around the mountain of inconvenient facts that show YEC false.dad said:There was another light than the present one in the spiritual/physical iuniverse, and it got here from the furthest stars in days or hours, or weeks.
You echo words programmed in, in the fantasy factory, and put a little spit into it, as if it's your own ideas!
I present to you conclusive evidence, we now live in a PO universe, care to challenge that?
No, in fact only thousands of years.Frumious Bandersnatch said:And that Physical Only universe has been around billions of years.
Not one iota, or shred or speck exists now or ever will. You flatter yourself and your delusions by calling your biased, belief based interpretation of evidence more than it is! The jigs up.The scientific evidence supporting that is overwhelming.
Vica versa, your fantasies came up against His word, and got slapped down something fierce.Your only challenge to that is your pecular fantasies based on your pecular interpretation of Genesis.
Don't make a mountain out of your imagination. I don't even need to break my pace to march over the little smelly mound you can raise.You do nothing but make up dad hoc irrationalizations as you go along to try to get around the mountain of inconvenient facts that show YEC false.
Frumious Bandersnatch said:How about a contest to see who can get dad to say the most absurd thing in response to a challenge? I guess it would pretty hard to top some of the stuff he as already come up with but you never know.
Aw, poor evos seem a little off balance, and looking for a little help from each other. Touching.funyun said:That's what I've been doing the past several responses...just trying to see how hard I can push to see how far he'll go. You keep responding to his posts long enough, I bet you could get him to say the moon is made of cheese.
funyun said:That's what I've been doing the past several responses...just trying to see how hard I can push to see how far he'll go. You keep responding to his posts long enough, I bet you could get him to say the moon is made of cheese.
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