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If someone kills themself with Bi-polar will they go too Hell?

Discussion in 'Requests for Christian Advice' started by Johnboy60, Jan 23, 2020.

  1. Johnboy60

    Johnboy60 Looking For Interesting News.

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    I have a friend that has Bi-polar that wants too die.
     
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  2. SkyWriting

    SkyWriting The Librarian Supporter

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    The only unforgivable Sin is rejecting God.
    But don't feel bad. If you force somebody
    to believe what they refuse to believe, they still refuse it.
    You can only improve yourself and maybe that will help your friend.
     
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  3. Old Lady

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    I doubt it, but God knows the answer. We see the physical results of that person's act; God knows the person's heart. Our job is to encourage the person that he is valuable and we love him.
     
  4. Curtis.Hilliker

    Curtis.Hilliker Now what.......

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    I had a friend who killed himself because of his mental health struggles, and I almost did too. Mental health problems can be horrible.

    Pray for him, and don’t let him spend a lot of time alone. I’ll pray too.
     
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  5. .Mikha'el.

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    I see no grounds for asserting that suicide for any reason is a sin.
     
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  6. yeshuaslavejeff

    yeshuaslavejeff simple truth, martyr, disciple of Yahshua

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    Many many people want to die, (perhaps).

    Those who are living in willing rebellion against Jesus obviously don't have hope, so it may not matter how they die - except all Scripture, all God's Plan and Purpose and Revelation in and thru Jesus seems to indicate that willful suicide is extreme sin (lack of faith if nothing else, and without faith it is impossible to please God).
     
  7. ImAllLikeOkWaitWat

    ImAllLikeOkWaitWat For who can resist his will?

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    Wanting to die is pretty common when you have bipolar disorder but as long as he doesn't have a plan then generally theres nothing that you can do. I'd still talk to him and try to encourage him, to be brave enough to live even though the pain feels like it will last forever. Let him know the pain he is in won't last forever and he has better days coming.
     
  8. yeshuaslavejeff

    yeshuaslavejeff simple truth, martyr, disciple of Yahshua

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    Please if possible explain/ clarify what "pain" you are referring to specifically .... thanks !
     
  9. ImAllLikeOkWaitWat

    ImAllLikeOkWaitWat For who can resist his will?

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    His friend wants to die. Pain is the most likely reason you would want to die.
     
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  10. yeshuaslavejeff

    yeshuaslavejeff simple truth, martyr, disciple of Yahshua

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    I don't think it is good to assume that.
    Also, without opiates and without addictive or toxic narcotics, the issue of pain can be quite fully dealt with. (I think)

     
  11. Sabertooth

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    There are two considerations to your question.
    1. Not all forms of suicide are self-murder. Like other forms of homicide, that is the form that is most concerning. (The problem is that no person can know where God draws the line; it is a very risky undertaking, at best.)
    2. It would also depend on the veracity --not one's preference-- of "Once Saved, Always Saved" vs. Arminianism. (Until you can resolve that dispute once and for all [GLWT], self-murder will remain a risky undertaking.)
    We do not pronounce such judgment. The best we can do is anticipate what Scripture teaches on the matter. God's actual Judgment is not changed by our opinions of His Word. In our uncertainty, I think that it is better to err on the side of caution.

    Will he go to Hell? No one (on this side of eternity) can know for sure, but it is a distinct possibility.
     
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  12. ChicanaRose

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    If the illness is taking over his thinking, maybe it's not him but the illness that is making him want to die. But since he is still alive, let's pray that he will stay alive and find hope and healing.
     
  13. Johnboy60

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    Thank you all for the prayer's. This friend is a Lady has had this condition since she was 23 years old and now she's 68. I've been taking care of her for almost four years now because her own family has disowned her because of the Bi-polar and her not taking her medicine.

    I also had a lady friend about 30 years ago kill herself with gun and she had only health problems like kidney blockages and other non mental problems. She did it because of the pain and she was in her 60's.
     
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  14. GaveMeJoy

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    It’s definitely a sin. It’s just not a sin that damns someone to hell.
     
  15. GaveMeJoy

    GaveMeJoy Well-Known Member

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    The only thing that will send a person to hell is if they die without saving belief in Jesus Christ crucified and risen. If they relented of their sins and accepted the Lord as their Lord, anything that’s happens after that is simply organ failure. Having a heart malfunction won’t send a Christian to hell, why would have a brain malfunction?
     
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  16. Jonathan Walkerin

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    If someone has justification for mentally ill person killing himself being sent to Hell by all mercifull and wise God it would be interesting to see.
     
  17. Leet

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    It's heartbreaking she's suffered for so many years. ☹ I guess she's still not taking meds? She'd be so much better off but that's half the battle with mental illness imo, convincing people to stay on their meds.
     
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  20. lismore

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    The only reason anyone would go to Hell is rejecting God's salvation in Jesus Christ.
     
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