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If Protestantism is true, why they are not united? (2)

Discussion in 'General Theology' started by Alonso_Castillo, Jul 25, 2014.

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  1. ~Cassia~

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    You must have missed this responce.
     
  2. Restoresmysoul

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    Spiritual terrorism. Although some people might mean well when talking about church attendance and the Lords supper, I agree that it can be like a spiritual terrorism. Here we are, sinners trying our best to obey the Lord, we are weak and need to see victory over our sins and these people add more to our yoke than we can bear. It can seem to terrify us. I think that fellowship isn't about the law, its not about going to hell or committing a deadly sin and that is the wrong way to see it. Fellowship is about being edified and strengthened, it can help us in our struggles. To think otherwise seems legalistic to me.
     
  3. Standing Up

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    That begs the question; define "the faith"?
     
  4. MoreCoffee

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    Gee! Saint Paul was a legalist eh?
    Let us hold on firmly to the hope we profess, because we can trust God to keep his promise. Let us be concerned for one another, to help one another to show love and to do good. Let us not give up the habit of meeting together, as some are doing. Instead, let us encourage one another all the more, since you see that the Day of the Lord is coming nearer. For there is no longer any sacrifice that will take away sins if we purposely go on sinning after the truth has been made known to us. Instead, all that is left is to wait in fear for the coming Judgment and the fierce fire which will destroy those who oppose God! (Hebrews 10:23-27 GNB)​
     
  5. By Faith Alone

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    I don't believe it. I know you can read better than that.

    Three different corporate bodies of believers whose hopes are in different spheres of blessings, and you come up with that?
    :doh:
     
  6. Restoresmysoul

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    Yes, it does, I agree.

    1 Tim 4:4 Now the Spirit expressly says that in later times some will depart from the faith by devoting themselves to deceitful spirits and teachings of demons, 2 through the insincerity of liars whose consciences are seared, 3 who forbid marriage and require abstinence from foods that God created to be received with thanksgiving by those who believe and know the truth. 4 For everything created by God is good, and nothing is to be rejected if it is received with thanksgiving, 5 for it is made holy by the word of God and prayer.
    6 If you put these things before the brothers, you will be a good servant of Christ Jesus, being trained in the words of the faith and of the good doctrine that you have followed. 7 Have nothing to do with irreverent, silly myths. Rather train yourself for godliness; 8 for while bodily training is of some value, godliness is of value in every way, as it holds promise for the present life and also for the life to come.

    1 Tim 5:8 Anyone who does not provide for their relatives, and especially for their own household, has denied the faith and is worse than an unbeliever.

    Titus 1:16 They profess that they know God; but in works they deny him, being abominable, and disobedient, and unto every good work reprobate.
     
  7. By Faith Alone

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    Hebrews. Types and shadows. Just as the Galatians were doing. Going back to the weak and beggardly elements of the law that brought them to faith.

    The sin that was spoken of in Hebrews was the evil heart of UNBELIEF. a SPECIFIC sin. The wilderness wandering will give you that. It was the MAJORITY belief that led to wilderness wandering;). I do not care how much you twist that passage, it does NOT apply.


    Heb 3:8-12
    8 Harden not your hearts, as in the provocation, in the day of temptation in the wilderness:
    9 When your fathers tempted me, proved me, and saw my works forty years.
    10 Wherefore I was grieved with that generation, and said, They do alway err in their heart; and they have not known my ways.
    11 So I sware in my wrath, They shall not enter into my rest.)
    12 Take heed, brethren, lest there be in any of you....
    an evil heart of unbelief...in departing from the living God.
     
  8. ~Cassia~

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    That is all that matters unless you happen to be law based which would then put a person into the category of recieving the earthly inheritance meant for Israel instead of the heavenly inheritance that is for those belonging to Christ.

    Originally Posted by ~Cassia~ View Post
    All that to say, Bottom line ~ the new man is those who do not love the present age

    2 Timothy 4:10
    10 For Demas has abandoned me, having loved the present age, and has gone to Thessalonica; Crescens to Galatia; Titus to Dalmatia.
    16 At my first defense no one was with me to support me, but all abandoned me. May it not be counted against them.
     
  9. Restoresmysoul

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    Paul is not terrorizing people with deadly warnings that failure to attend church is a deadly sin in that message, he is instead saying exactly what I was talking about, he's saying that we should come together in order to help one another. This is not a command to abstain from a deadly sin, its more of an loving exhortation. Paul is saying that we should encourage each other to not sin, he not saying that failure to attend Church on Sunday is a sin in itself.
     
  10. By Faith Alone

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    Wait a minute. ALL are IN CHRIST in that post. Three different families of believers.
     
  11. Root of Jesse

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    I don't even see a question on post 200 on page 20.

    There is only one Church, the universal church of Jesus.
     
  12. ~Cassia~

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    No they are not and your wording below seems to clarify this very well
    You'll have to come up with a better post than your fabulously acclaimed post #200 to have anyone believe otherwise imo
     
  13. By Faith Alone

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    BTW. I do appreciate the response and sorry I missed it. Sometimes I have to take a break to clean my nose-print off the monitor. :D
     
  14. MoreCoffee

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    You think not? So how do you read verses 25-27? Isn't that a dyer warning?
    Let us hold on firmly to the hope we profess, because we can trust God to keep his promise. Let us be concerned for one another, to help one another to show love and to do good. Let us not give up the habit of meeting together, as some are doing. Instead, let us encourage one another all the more, since you see that the Day of the Lord is coming nearer. For there is no longer any sacrifice that will take away sins if we purposely go on sinning after the truth has been made known to us. Instead, all that is left is to wait in fear for the coming Judgment and the fierce fire which will destroy those who oppose God! (Hebrews 10:23-27 GNB)​
     
  15. MoreCoffee

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    The quote below doesn't address anything in Hebrews 10:23-27. It is irrelevant.
     
  16. ~Cassia~

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    With few precious posts left before Chrisbot sends the thread into oblivion I humbly accept your apology and offer you the preverbial :doh: as an alternative to nose prints.
     
  17. By Faith Alone

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    Try again:

    "Fabulously acclaimed". Figures.
     
  18. By Faith Alone

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    It was addressed to the Hebrews in the "last days" of THAT dispensation. "As a hen gathers her chickens under her wings". The wilderness wandering.
     
  19. MrMoe

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    Negative particles repel each other, So do positive particles. The church was not united in 1 Corinthians 1:10-17 that must mean it was not true according to the OP's logic.

    What would the nucleus of protestism be?
     
  20. Restoresmysoul

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    Im not completely clear to its full meaning, some people think its a warning against legalism. I think it may be encouraging us to meet together so we can encourage each other to follow the commands of the Lord, but I don't think that its about failing to attend church, or that failing to meet together is a sin. However I think we need fellowship and the more we grow the more we desire it. BTW, I also think that fellowship can be achieved without actually meeting together in the flesh, maybe the internet isn't the best way but it helps me a lot. I love fellowshipping every day. Praise the Lord.
     
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