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If GOP stands for White Anglo-Saxon Protestantism, then it's not going to win anything

Discussion in 'American Politics' started by SummerMadness, May 3, 2021.

  1. TLK Valentine

    TLK Valentine You will be who you will be. We are our choices.

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    The past is a useful weapon... but only for those who don't believe in redemption.
     
  2. civilwarbuff

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    And how does it not matter now? Had they no practiced their own form of apartheid would the south have/be better off? Would race relations be better today without Jim Crow?
    Thank you for repudiating reparations......
    Could you please take the time in your busy schedule to post the article/section where racism is enshrined as a permanent fixture in the Constitution? While you are at it could you also post the article/section where slavery is mentioned at all?......I am afraid I might have missed something.....
    Who?......African-Americans?......wow, what an acknowledgement.......
     
  3. TLK Valentine

    TLK Valentine You will be who you will be. We are our choices.

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    I don't understand why you would want to preserve all this if we both agree it was a bad thing.
     
  4. durangodawood

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    Good grief. SM was talking about the failed state of the confederacy and its constitution.

    Yes you missed something plain as day,
     
  5. civilwarbuff

    civilwarbuff Well-Known Member Supporter

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    You are right, I did miss that. Thanks for pointing it out......mea culpa.....
     
  6. A_Thinker

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  7. A_Thinker

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    Thank God BLM is not a political party ...
     
  8. Aldebaran

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    That's why I referred to it as an organization. Political parties listen to organizations, such as BLM.
     
  9. TLK Valentine

    TLK Valentine You will be who you will be. We are our choices.

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    Political parties listen to the people... sometimes those people get organized.
     
  10. TLK Valentine

    TLK Valentine You will be who you will be. We are our choices.

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    The parents want to disown the child -- why would you or anyone else want to adopt it?
     
  11. essentialsaltes

    essentialsaltes Stranger in a Strange Land

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    Speaking of Strom Thurmond...

    (James Strom Thurmond Sr. (December 5, 1902 – June 26, 2003) was an American politician, military officer, and attorney who represented South Carolina in the United States Senate from 1954 to 2003. Thurmond was a member of the Democratic Party until 1964 when he joined the Republican Party for the remainder of his legislative career.)
     
  12. Aldebaran

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    Biden seemed to like him:

    “I came to the United States Senate. I was a 29-year-old fellow out of the Civil Rights movement, a public defender, and it turns out one of my closest friends ends up being Strom Thurmond, a man whose background and interests, at the time I came, were considerably different than mine,” Biden said in his 1988 speech.
    "If you had told me when I entered the United States Senate that one of the people that I’d have the closest relationship with in the Senate would be Strom Thurmond, I would have told you that you were crazy. And I suspect maybe Strom would have told you, you were crazy,” he added. “I’m not just saying Strom and I are close. Anyone who knows the Senate knows how seldom we agree on the controversial issues but how closely we work together.”

    Biden said the Washington press would refer to him and Thurmond as the "marvelous marriage" and "the odd couple" and would often ask them how they got along.
    Joe Biden
     
  13. 98cwitr

    98cwitr Lord forgive me Staff Member Red Team - Moderator Supporter

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    Now do Robert Byrd.
     
  14. essentialsaltes

    essentialsaltes Stranger in a Strange Land

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    in 1952, he announced "After about a year, I became disinterested, quit paying my dues, and dropped my membership in [the KKK]
     
  15. 98cwitr

    98cwitr Lord forgive me Staff Member Red Team - Moderator Supporter

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    Did he magically change his convictions which led him to join the KKK in the first place? After all, a tiger can't change his stripes.
     
  16. SummerMadness

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    He not only apologized for his past actions, he also championed civil rights afterwards. I figure that should stand for something.

    I just find it so odd that there is all this reaching back to the 1950s to talk about racism when we have racism here and now, and it's not isolated.
     
  17. 98cwitr

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    And it's just dismissed that Byrd used racial slurs on Fox News as late as 2001...are we then to overlook that?

    And let's not forget LBJ's (who is also purported as a "civil rights hero") infamous quote as to why he was to win over the black vote.

    I think some people are tired of being political pawns, don't you?

    ^^^LBJ said that.
    Byrd said that in 1946...you think he had a full change of heart in just 6 short years? I don't.
     
    Last edited: May 6, 2021
  18. essentialsaltes

    essentialsaltes Stranger in a Strange Land

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    "I know now I was wrong. Intolerance had no place in America. I apologized for a thousand times ... and I don't mind apologizing over and over again. I can't erase what happened."

    Look we get it. In the good old days of the 1950s, Southern Democrats were racist, and black people knew their place.

    But things changed. In the case of Strom Thurmond, we can see exactly when. In 1964, he changed his party as the parties changed.
     
  19. SummerMadness

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    Who dismissed it?

    Similar to how you dismissed this?
     
  20. Aldebaran

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    Trump championed civil rights as well. I figure that should stand for something (but have little hope it will).
    Trump attends civil rights museum opening; black leaders stay away
     
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