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If GOP stands for White Anglo-Saxon Protestantism, then it's not going to win anything

Discussion in 'American Politics' started by SummerMadness, May 3, 2021.

  1. Guinan

    Guinan Well-Known Member

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    Sadly, that's mostly true. I'd like to emphasize the word mostly. That being said, I won't dare repeat what I've heard some other conservatives say about African Americans, Native Americans, Hispanics, and Asians. Some of them like to belittle and disparage women too. I was even more appalled when I learned that they're professing Christians and a couple of them are deacons in a local church.
     
  2. civilwarbuff

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    Actually most didn't, they stayed democrats.....Wallace, Byrd, Bull Connor, Sen. J. William Fulbright, Joe Biden....the list is extensive...... Strom Thurmond was an exception. LBJ was the biggest racist president since Woodrow Wilson.
    Hannity: Dems have 'zero credibility' on race issue after George Wallace, Robert Byrd, Al Gore Sr.
     
  3. SummerMadness

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    LOLROFLCOPTER

    Your talked about the Magna Carta, and are now trying to parse words over whether I used power vs. rule.

    That's a valiant attempt to change goal posts. Nice try.
     
  4. civilwarbuff

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    So what?.....now you align with the pro-tax/anti-freedom party? Let me know how that works out for you in a few years......Oh, wait.....in a few years we may not be allowed by the federal government to hold such discussions on threads like this......too much white supremacy going on.......
     
  5. civilwarbuff

    civilwarbuff Well-Known Member Supporter

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    Learn the history first, then come back and talk. I don't have the patience to teach people what they can easily learn on their own.....
     
  6. SummerMadness

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    And now that you're aware of these things, are you still going to defend such racism? What about all the racism from various GOP groups and elected officials?

    Birtherism is racism, stop defending it.

    And maybe, just maybe, someone is holding water to deny racism.

    In the decision that threw out those racist laws, it is noted:
    For example:
    Also:
    Moreover:
    And there's more in there if you care to read the decision. It's racist because they targeted anything that was predominantly used by African Americans, that's why it was thrown out. I don't need to listen to a water carrier, just look at the facts of the case.
     
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  7. SummerMadness

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    Keep trying to backpedal all you'd like. :wave:
     
  8. 98cwitr

    98cwitr Lord forgive me Staff Member Red Team - Moderator Supporter

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    Still? Excuse me, but I find that an unsubstantiated bit of slander; I've never "defended racism." And honestly I'm just taking your word for it, I haven't confirmed it, but I haven't started listening to Rush and don't plan to.

    Not really, it's at most ethnocentrism, and at least nationalism. If Elon Musk, who is African-American, ran for President, would it still be birtherism (ie: racism) to question his candidacy?

    Claiming disproportionality as proof of racism is at best a lazy argument and at worse a complete farce for power. If I need an ID to express my 2nd amendment rights, is that racist too?
     
  9. Ken-1122

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    It must stand for something else, because Western Civilization is not just about white people.
     
  10. SummerMadness

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    Slander? You simply argue that you haven't heard something but it's already in the public record. Let me guess, you're going to next say, "He didn't call him a magic negro, he just repeatedly played a song calling him a magic negro." :yawn:

    First, let's stop with the ignorant argument that attempts to label Elon Musk as African American. He is not African American, just as Charlize Theron is not African American. African American refers to the ethnic groups from the black racial groups in Africa. More specifically, it generally refers to the descendants of enslaved black people in the United States, but may also apply to recent black immigrants or their children (though some identify differently). Elon Musk does not fall into that category.

    Elon Musk is also not eligible to run for president because he was born outside the United States to parents that were not American. Barack Obama was born in the United States to an American mother, and there are people still droning on about him not being born in the United States. We didn't see this, "he doesn't belong" attitude when applied to John McCain or Ted Cruz because the birtherism is just racism by another name. The denial here is amazing; I never thought I would see people simply abandon Republican leaders like Colin Powell and John McCain who rightfully denounce this racism.

    If you request data based on race and then proceed to target the methods predominantly used by African Americans, you're probably racist. If they were going to be smart about it, they should have at least tried not to only target the methods predominantly used by African Americans.
     
  11. Aldebaran

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  12. Ana the Ist

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    Oh wow....this is part of the GOP caucus platform?

    Last I saw it was a proposal by a couple of far right hardliners.
     
  13. Occams Barber

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    It was actually both. A platform for a GOP Caucus sponsored by a few far right hardliners.

    What really shocked me is that members of a main stream political party would sponsor a caucus using blatantly white supremacist language.

    OB
     
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  14. Subduction Zone

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    No, the Democrats are more "pro-tax" than the Republicans because they are more fiscally conservative than the Republicans these days. They are far more "pro-freedom" than the Republicans are.
     
  15. mark46

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    What shocks me is that so many find this so surprising. Trump well understands where his support comes from, and the leadership in the Republican Party has been forced to accept everything that is said by Trump or the supporters most in line with his views.

    Much is made about Biden's popularity. His numbers should be huge. He just basically lowered the tax rates for those under $100K to zero and gave folks huge amounts of money. He has gotten the vaccine to all who want it. And, he will do much more, using whatever methods necessary to get aoround Senate rules. The leaderhip has only one man to negotiate with: Manchin.

    THE BIG BUT
    Biden's popularity is NOT huge compared to past presidents at this point in their presidencies. I suspect that he is only higher than Carter. His policies and rhetoric will get millions more 2022 votes in NY, NJ, CA and MA.

    What we NEED to remember is that the Democrats did very poorly in the House. All the radical new reps from 70% Democratic districts won. Many of those moderates who won close elections in 2018 lost in 2020. There is hope, but it is not at all clear that the Democrats will win in the House or in Senate in 2022.
     
  16. civilwarbuff

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    So you must be one of those who believe that when someone dies, or an event is in the past it no longer has any influence on the present? As I said go learn history first; it is more than names, dates and places. It is learning to understand that the ACW still impacts how we live today; that MLK's influence did not die with him; that Martin Luther's 95 Thesis' still causes us strife today. You gotta learn to connect the dots. Just being dismissive doesn't work when it comes to history.......
    Can't even award a 'Nice Try' for this effort.
     
  17. Pommer

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    A shovel is a great tool only if the user knows when to cease using it.
     
  18. civilwarbuff

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    And here I have been addressing the posts and not the posters......
     
  19. TLK Valentine

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    In all fairness, they tossed Powell and McCain under the bus long ago,and it had nothing to do with racism -- it was for daring to criticize whoever the unquestionable leader was at the time.

    Ironically, Powell was persona non grata for criticizing Bush's handling of Gulf War II... now it's time for Bush himself to join him.

    But the great thing about the GOP is that it's a big bus; plenty of room underneath.
     
  20. durangodawood

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    Those guys were conservative. Southern Dems were exceedingly conservative. Thats what defines them. Clearly todays D's are not conservative at all.
     
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