If God spoke the universe into existence...

[EternalDragon]

Just as any true Scotsman puts honey in his porridge. If he doesn't, then he is not a true Scotsman.

What you are missing is that a belief in a literal Genesis is not a requirement for being a christian, and it never has been, just as it is not a requirement to put honey in your porridge in order to be a Scotsman. Nowhere in the Nicene Creed do you see any requirement that christians belief in a young Earth or separate creation.

No, not the first requirement but it is the second after you become a Christian.

2 Timothy 2:15 Study to shew thyself approved unto God, a workman that needeth not to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth.

Jesus also studied and taught from Genesis as true history.

Math. 19:6 But from the beginning of the creation God made them male and female.

John 5:46 For had ye believed Moses, ye would have believed me; for he wrote of me.

 

[Oncedeceived]

No, not the first requirement but it is the second after you become a Christian.

2 Timothy 2:15 Study to shew thyself approved unto God, a workman that needeth not to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth.

Jesus also studied and taught from Genesis as true history.

Math. 19:6 But from the beginning of the creation God made them male and female.

John 5:46 For had ye believed Moses, ye would have believed me; for he wrote of me.

I agree. It is a level of trust in God that one comes to.

 

[juvenissun]

So how about in your own words. Tell me what "nothing" is. Educate this completely ignorant atheist on what the word "nothing" means. Please.

Your move.

You do not know "nothing", so you do not know "thing".

Let me tell you a "thing": space. Do you know what space is?

I am sure you do. So, now, eliminate the space. Then the situation is closer to nothing. But it is only closer, not quite there yet.

Do you see things better now? This has nothing to do with being an atheist or not. It is an understanding.

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After all, I think I do not have to tell you this.

 

[Delphiki]

juve: Did you even read the thread? You're actually agreeing with me, not AV, on what "nothing" is... er... I think.

 

[Strathos]

So, why could not the resurrection story be simply a metaphor. In fact, why could not the entire life of Jesus be simply metaphorical, as many early Christians (perhaps even including Paul) believed...?

You can believe that if you wish.

 

[juvenissun]

juve: Did you even read the thread? You're actually agreeing with me, not AV, on what "nothing" is... er... I think.

Your OP is not about nothing, it is about the Bible. You never care about the issue in your OP in this thread. So, this thread is endangered to become a junk thread.

 

[AV1611VET]

You never care about the issue in your OP in this thread.

I second that.

 

[Delphiki]

Your OP is not about nothing, it is about the Bible. You never care about the issue in your OP in this thread. So, this thread is endangered to become a junk thread.

So the answer to my question is that you didn't. The attention span you display here perfectly explains why one might believe a collection of lucrative stories in an ancient series of books over reality. Thanks for the insight.

 

[juvenissun]

So the answer to my question is that you didn't. The attention span you display here perfectly explains why one might believe a collection of lucrative stories in an ancient series of books over reality. Thanks for the insight.

You asked a question and I gave you a good reply.
You do not consider my reply. That is your business.
I will talk to you when you catch up on the argument.