If asked... how would you respond ?

[davedajobauk]

Question "Is it worth getting the Flu Jab" ??

I guess, some would say...
that despite the inferred protection of the jab
that folks would maintain a SAFE distance from anyone
that appeared to be so ill, so giving a 'false' (credit) appearance
to the jab's credibility (as a real protection)
In that they would avoid large crowds of folks
and be very conscious of the virus being transmitted via coughs and sneezes

one in three, is indeed very poor odds...
about even with a chance you will and the chance you won't
There can be no better defense, than premeditated (thoughtful) self-defence

http://www.msn.com/en-gb/health/medical/is-it-worth-getting-the-flu-jab/ar-AAeh2Yt



(Edited for clarity of meaning)

 

[eleyah]

My Brother Dave i have pondered this very thing many times. Where i work they offer these flu shots for free and encourage everyone to get one. In fifteen years i got the shot once and had no ill effects from it and did not get the flu that year. Although i never got the flu the other fourteen years that i didn't get the shot either. I think several of those years were considered to be widespread flu outbreaks for the area i live in too.
I think if one supports their immune system nutritionally with vitamin c, elderberries, garlic , echinacea and astragulas root it would help combat the flu. Perhaps more important though is getting enough sleep, eating enough fruits and vegetables as opposed to a diet high in refined or processed foods, and avoiding stress as much as possible. Of course washing your hands they say is a good idea also.

 

[BookishGirl]

I have never had a flu shot nor have I ever had the flu. I avoid people who are ill and I wash my hands often. So far so good.

However, I am now working a job where I am exposed to the public. This might be a game-changer for me in the future.

 

[davedajobauk]

I have had the 'Flu' twice
Do you remember that Hong Kong Flu Strain ? ...
well, that was when I enjoyed the first of the two attacks that I recall

It hit me down like a shotgun blast
and kept me bedridden for four days
My visits to the bathroom were via crawling and resting in the prone position
The rent-collector called the doctor at my behest
and he could offer nothing but keeping warm and drinking plenty

Many people lost their lives and many buried loved ones
I was one of the lucky ones and was not called-home (duhhh obviously... )

Anyway, I suppose that in the event they choose to make vaccine for the expected virus
and choose correctly the virus type
then people bodies, willl become prewarned and hopefully build, some resistance to an attack

When however, they do not 'get it right' then patients, will be as vulnerable as those that
do not receive the vaccine

I, have now had the offered vaccine this past three years
and nobody around me contracted the virus and while I know
that I should be content (grateful) it was not 'tested' for real
I do get that feeling.... that no-matter what men do
we should rely upon our Father, who is in heaven to light our way
Yes, it is that TIME again

Decisions decisions

 

[valarielynn]

Question "Is it worth getting the Flu Jab" ??

I guess, some would say...
that despite the inferred protection of the jab
that folks would maintain a SAFE distance from anyone
that appeared to be so ill, so giving a 'false' (credit) appearance
to the jab's credibility (as a real protection)
In that they would avoid large crowds of folks
and be very conscious of the virus being transmitted via coughs and sneezes

one in three, is indeed very poor odds...
about even with a chance you will and the chance you won't
There can be no better defense, than premeditated (thoughtful) self-defence

http://www.msn.com/en-gb/health/medical/is-it-worth-getting-the-flu-jab/ar-AAeh2Yt

Question "Is it worth getting the Flu Jab" ??

I guess, some would say...
that despite the inferred protection of the jab
that folks would maintain a SAFE distance from anyone
that appeared to be so ill, so giving a 'false' (credit) appearance
to the jab's credibility (as a real protection)
In that they would avoid large crowds of folks
and be very conscious of the virus being transmitted via coughs and sneezes

one in three, is indeed very poor odds...
about even with a chance you will and the chance you won't
There can be no better defense, than premeditated (thoughtful) self-defence

http://www.msn.com/en-gb/health/medical/is-it-worth-getting-the-flu-jab/ar-AAeh2Yt



(Edited for clarity of meaning)

I am relieved that I don't have to make that decision. I take immune suppressing drugs & my Dr tells me that flu shots are a big "no no" under those circumstances. However, I know of someone that got very ill after receiving the flu shot. At best its a crap shoot.....if I had to make that decision, I suppose I would prayerfully consider it by weighing the pros & cons, & asking my drs opinion.
(Edited for clarity of meaning)

 

[valarielynn]

At best its a crap shoot. If I had to make that decision (which I don't....due to immune suppressing drugs), I would prayerfully weigh the pros & cons & consider my drs opinion.

 

[johnny1217]

Talked to a pharmacist about this just today . He said last years shot was more or less useless , that they guessed wrong on the strain . The person behind me piped in that they got the flu shot last year and ended up with 102 fever for two days afterwards.

They are pushing it at my work as well, and i'm leaning towards no, as i've only had a real flu once .

 

[AtWhatCost]

I had the misfortune of getting one of the first (if not the first) flu shots back in the mid 70's. I have had flues throughout my life. That wins, if winning means "worst ever." Technically, it wasn't the flu. I can see that. I was only sick for a day, but man! I was so very sick.

To me it's like a barium milkshake. I can do it once, but can't talk myself into it twice.

We do wash our hands often, especially when we're out in public. I've had the flu once in the last decade. Compared to how sick I was with that flu shot, I'll take that last flu if given the choice. Sad statement, remembering it was a three-day stomach flu. lol

 

[davedajobauk]

It's been highly recommended for me, these recent years
~because I have Heart Failure (Severe LVSD)
with three out of four heart valves, that are regurgitating between mild to moderately
With mild stenosis of the left ventricle and of the aortic valve's membranes
I guess they are thinking that I need it to stave off such a severe infection at my age

With Jesus all about me, I'm thinking that nothing bad can harm me
unless, He wills it and, well, I would go along with that
Like it wouldn't be anything that I could 'change for the better' anyway

 

[eleyah]

It's been highly recommended for me, these recent years
~because I have Heart Failure (Severe LVSD)
with three out of four heart valves, that are regurgitating between mild to moderately
With mild stenosis of the left ventricle and of the aortic valve's membranes
I guess they are thinking that I need it to stave off such a severe infection at my age

With Jesus all about me, I'm thinking that nothing bad can harm me
unless, He wills it and, well, I would go along with that
Like it wouldn't be anything that I could 'change for the better' anyway

You should most definitely pray about it first and foremost , but it sounds like it would be a good idea for you to get a flu shot. Like you said also You got Jesus looking out for you so nothing will harm you.


Psa 91:7

A thousand shall fall at thy side, and ten thousand at thy right hand; but it shall not come nigh thee.

Heavenly Father, I lift Dave up to You and ask that you would give him an answer to this situation that is on his mind. Help him to be at peace about it and lead him in the way he should go. In Jesus blessed name i pray... Amen

 

[davedajobauk]

God bless you Brother Eleyah



Our Father who art in Heaven \o/
hallowed be Thy Name
Thy Kingdom come.
Thy will be done in earth,
As it is in heaven.
Give us this day our daily bread.
And forgive us our trespasses,
As we forgive them that trespass against us.
And lead us not into temptation,
But deliver us from evil.
For thine is the kingdom,
The power, and the glory,
For ever and ever.
Amen.

 

[davedajobauk]

It has just been offered to me again

"Just walk-in during clinic times, no-need to make an appointment"

I will take it, as I will take up the full armour of God, when needed

Ephesians 6:10-18 (NIV)
The Armor of God
10 Finally, be strong in the Lord and in his mighty power
11 Put on the full armor of God, so that you can take your stand against the devil’s schemes.
12 For our struggle is not against flesh and blood, but against the rulers, against the authorities, against the powers of this dark world and against the spiritual forces of evil in the heavenly realms.
13 Therefore put on the full armor of God, so that when the day of evil comes, you may be able to stand your ground, and after you have done everything, to stand.
14 Stand firm then, with the belt of truth buckled around your waist, with the breastplate of righteousness in place,
15 and with your feet fitted with the readiness that comes from the gospel of peace.
16 In addition to all this, take up the shield of faith, with which you can extinguish all the flaming arrows of the evil one.
17 Take the helmet of salvation and the sword of the Spirit, which is the word of God.
18 And pray in the Spirit on all occasions with all kinds of prayers and requests. With this in mind, be alert and always keep on praying for all the Lord’s people.

 

[Goatee]

Never had one yet

 

[davedajobauk]

your choice

Weighing,
the negative symptoms [in me] of, a bad response to a vaccine
against,
the full blown virus infection for which there is no known cure
I the Lord has given vaccine developers / producers
sufficient grace and knowledge to support me
May His will be done in me

 

[civilwarbuff]

Question "Is it worth getting the Flu Jab" ??

I guess, some would say...
that despite the inferred protection of the jab
that folks would maintain a SAFE distance from anyone
that appeared to be so ill, so giving a 'false' (credit) appearance
to the jab's credibility (as a real protection)
In that they would avoid large crowds of folks
and be very conscious of the virus being transmitted via coughs and sneezes

one in three, is indeed very poor odds...
about even with a chance you will and the chance you won't
There can be no better defense, than premeditated (thoughtful) self-defence

http://www.msn.com/en-gb/health/medical/is-it-worth-getting-the-flu-jab/ar-AAeh2Yt



(Edited for clarity of meaning)

From CDC website (http://www.cdc.gov/flu/about/disease/spread.htm)
Person to Person
People with flu can spread it to others up to about 6 feet away. Most experts think that flu viruses are spread mainly by droplets made when people with flu cough, sneeze or talk. These droplets can land in the mouths or noses of people who are nearby or possibly be inhaled into the lungs. Less often, a person might also get flu by touching a surface or object that has flu virus on it and then touching their own mouth or nose.

To avoid this, people should stay away from sick people and stay home if sick. It also is important to wash hands often with soap and water. If soap and water are not available, use an alcohol-based hand rub. Linens, eating utensils, and dishes belonging to those who are sick should not be shared without washing thoroughly first. Eating utensils can be washed either in a dishwasher or by hand with water and soap and do not need to be cleaned separately. Further, frequently touched surfaces should be cleaned and disinfected at home, work and school, especially if someone is ill.

The Flu Is Contagious
Most healthy adults may be able to infect other people beginning 1 day before symptoms develop and up to 5 to 7 days after becoming sick. Children may pass the virus for longer than 7 days. Symptoms start 1 to 4 days after the virus enters the body. That means that you may be able to pass on the flu to someone else before you know you are sick, as well as while you are sick. Some people can be infected with the flu virus but have no symptoms. During this time, those persons may still spread the virus to others.

So, unless you are able to totally isolate your self from any possible carriers....get the shot.

 

[civilwarbuff]

I had the misfortune of getting one of the first (if not the first) flu shots back in the mid 70's. I have had flues throughout my life. That wins, if winning means "worst ever." Technically, it wasn't the flu. I can see that. I was only sick for a day, but man! I was so very sick.

Back in the 70's they used a live, but weakened virus. It was not unusual to get flu symptoms afterward, but they were usually mild and short lived. Effectiveness was 90%+. Now days they use a dead virus strain and it is unusual to get flu symptoms. However, IIRC, effectiveness is about 70% but if you do get flu it is usually shorter and milder.

 

[davedajobauk]

Thank you all ~for your responses

I will present myself for the vaccine later this coming week



dave

 

[rebornfree]

I've been wondering about this too, and have just been invited for my first jab next week. As it's advised I've decided to go for it.

 

[davedajobauk]

I am putting-off my jab, until I have finished, my present course of antibiotics
ie: two weeks of Amoxycillin @ 500mg, three times a day
because my old cough has returned (3 days already)....
just as a preventative measure
my heart defects, probably would not tolerate a heavy infection, at my stage of life

I can now walk into any pharmacy and receive the jab, later-on

 

[zippy2]

I guess I will get the shot again this year. As someone said, last year's was useless, but maybe they will get it right.
I have only had the real flu once and ended up in hospital...thought i was gonna die. That was back in the 80's.

However, when I worked in public school system i always got a shot. kinda not so much later. But now with all my ailments doc says best to get it so guess i will. my husband and daughter can't take it.....and neither have ever gotten the real flu.

Zip