I was just attacked in my sleep.im crying and screaming Jehovah

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Robert Richborough

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I notice that attacks can happen when you are witnessing to someone, you have someone on your mind etc, who is close to coming to the lord.. We absolutely have spiritual warfare in this world.

That too.
 
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I am not an atheist, and it's not a matter of anything "being in someone's head" (imaginary). It's a matter (likely) of her natural sleep paralysis turning on at the wrong time and her feeling like she is being held down. I have experienced this. It is terrifying.

Some posts on the thread suggested that prayer is the only answer for this sort of thing. I don't think that's so.

That's why I said the OP should consult a sleep specialist.
I knew you weren't an atheist but the other person who quoted me was. The statement I made about "being in someone's head" wasn't meant to seem imaginary but that that is where the problem takes place...in their head or mind as apposed to the lungs or heart or other body part. I agree if the problem persists to a point of being disruptive and not having any relief from prayer then get some help. When it affected me the most, people just didn't go to the Dr unless they had a broken body part or had the money to pay for things like that. I suffered for over 20 years and still do at times but the suggestions of prayer and sleeping with my bible did help and still do. Even today I could not afford to see a sleep specialist so prayer to God is still my relief
 
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Latin not Portuguese, roughly: "What is freely asserted is freely dismissed."

Meaning, in this case, "without evidence your post is just hot air."
Yeah, think I know what that means but thankyou for elaborating it for me.
 
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There is no evidence that prayer has any effect on illness. All the studies evidence that.

If you personally, with full knowledge, prefer faith healing and prayer as a primary modality ... sorry, you're way out on a limb, but it's your life, not mine.

If you want to try or recommend faith healing and prayer as an adjunct therapy, knock yourself out.

If you want to lead others down the primrose path of faith healing, there I will have to oppose you as irresponsible no matter what your belief system, and the courts will back me up on that.

There has been evidence, there is multiple articles on how faith is tied into the placebo effect... also I really must ask... why is an atheist on a christian forum ? Sure were welcome to everyone, but I don't get why someone who doesn't believe bothers even interacting with us.
 
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There is no evidence that prayer has any effect on illness. All the studies evidence that.

If you personally, with full knowledge, prefer faith healing and prayer as a primary modality ... sorry, you're way out on a limb, but it's your life, not mine.

If you want to try or recommend faith healing and prayer as an adjunct therapy, knock yourself out.

If you want to lead others down the primrose path of faith healing, there I will have to oppose you as irresponsible no matter what your belief system, and the courts will back me up on that.
Why are you answering to those who are asking about God? You do not appose me but you appose the Almighty God! If I go to an atheist forum and advise others like you to pray for healing then maybe you can appose what I say but if I recommend prayer for someone on a GOD BELIEVING CHRISTIAN forum that asks for advice you have no place in threatening me for doing such a thing. Be ready for God's hand in your life because I am praying for you.
 
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There is no evidence that prayer has any effect on illness. All the studies evidence that.

If you personally, with full knowledge, prefer faith healing and prayer as a primary modality ... sorry, you're way out on a limb, but it's your life, not mine.

If you want to try or recommend faith healing and prayer as an adjunct therapy, knock yourself out.

If you want to lead others down the primrose path of faith healing, there I will have to oppose you as irresponsible no matter what your belief system, and the courts will back me up on that.

So what do you need prayer for?
 
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Please provide evidence for that claim.

Please provide evidence for that claim.

Please provide evidence for that claim.

You have evidence that this sort of a sleep disorder is not organic in cause but is "spiritual?"

Please provide evidence for that claim.

I suspect that a favorite stuffed animal might serve as well or better.

Please provide evidence for that claim.

You are welcome.

I have no need what-so-ever for prayer.

Not evidence that you would believe or would not write off as anecdotal.. I don't really have to provide you with anything though, your in a christian forum. Also God doesn't dance for your own curiosity, I know you will say its convenient, but I suggest you read up on why many quantum physicists are deists first, and look for yourself :)

Also, lies damned lies and statistics, same goes with evidence, if your clever enough you can present any amount of evidence in a way of texas sharpshooting.

Also not to be rude, but seriously what is a 67 year old man doing wasting his time on a forum of "loons" as he would put it believing in a "sky fairy" if he was so certain that there is no God ? seems like there are a lot more productive ways to spend ones own time.
 
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I suspect that a favorite stuffed animal might serve as well or better.
Nope, wrong again. You might want to be careful, God said He will be found by those who haven't looked for Him. Seems to me you must be on this CHRISTIAN site for a reason that you don't realize yet. I am praying for you, and I have already. Perhaps God will visit you in a dream?
 
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Nope, wrong again. You might want to be careful, God said He will be found by those who haven't looked for Him.

Is God referring to people who have never known him or can it also be for believers who have backsliden?
 
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Is God referring to people who have never known him or can it also be for believers who have backsliden?
I think in this verse He is referring to people who have never looked for Him. I think it can be like the parable of the man who is calling people to the wedding banquet but everyone he knows ends up being to busy to come so his servants are told to go out and search the highways and ditches, look for people who didn't even know about the party, and invite them instead. The backsliders would be the lost sheep or the virgins who didn't bring enough oil.
 
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Not evidence that you would believe or would not write off as anecdotal.

He is an Atheist. Furthermore, Christianity, as with any other religion, requires an element of faith. If any faith was objectively true -- that is, unequivocally and inescapably provable -- Atheism wouldn't exist.

I feel that needs to be stated.
 
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I was in a house full of demons and they where holding me down and I knew I was asleep.it felt like I was in hell.

I feel like I'm going crazy

A man had me by the arm and was laughing. I could feel his arm

Strongman, in the name of Jesus, we bind these demonic dreams, and the spirit of fear from manifesting any longer. We declare Teri free from all fear, and full of the Peace that passes all understanding, the Peace that Jesus bequeathed to us when He went to heaven. Father, we ask that You Surround her with Your loving arms and presence. We plead the Blood of Jesus over her and ps 91.in Jesus name, Amen

I have had these type of dreams before. In fact in mine I had no voice and could not scream. That was quite awhile ago, and since, if I have a dream like this, I find I am able to say the name of Jesus and have a voice.

Your in my prayers my friend. Welcome to c.f.. Praying things will be better for you

Blessings of grace and peace be yours in abundance!
 
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Welcome to spiritual warfare 101....
Let the atheists stick around...theey May learn something.....

True story
1 of the few survivors on 911 was in one of the stairwells with about 15-20 people
As they heard the building caving in on them he told them to cry out to Jesus at the top of their lungs..........

He cudnt see but felt like he heard all of them crying out to Jesus.....
I saw Him on Christian channel years ago...
Most amazing story.......

Those who are athiest remeber Jesus is calling and has a time set for your salvation..
As it is not the Father's will for any to perish
But all come to eternal life....
 
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I think in this verse He is referring to people who have never looked for Him. I
Actually many folks who think they are right with God will hear those words.
Deception says mumble some words live as you want
Truth says those who obeyed and did His word.
Deception says once forgiven always forgiven.
There are those who walk with the Lord and one day give into persecution and walk away and refuse to listen to The Holy Spirit and live in sin......most dangerous.
There is so much more.
Salvation is not a game.
Blessings
FCJ
 
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Christ said "Not everyone who says unto me Lord Lord, will enter the Kingdom of Heaven. There will be those who have done many things in His name and He will say "I never knew you" There will also those who do many good things and they won't know they did it for Him.
 
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Please someone help me. I was just attacked in my sleep

I have been praying for you, and just wanted you to know that you are not alone, and that you are not crazy.

My dream was very similar to yours, I had multiple demons trying to pull me through the floor. And felt like they were trying to pull me down to hell.

My husband and I. Are praying for you and will continue to be on your side.

Something I was thinking about it, and I look back on my life at the time, there were many things that were present in my life, and had i had the wisdom I have now, I would have asked God to help me remove them. And to be honest it can be as simple as walking in unforgivenes. Or even someone else in the home doing things that are trying to get to you.


God bless you, and keep you, make His face to shine upon you and give you peace.
 
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