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I thought we were in the best economy ever?

Discussion in 'American Politics' started by RocksInMyHead, Feb 12, 2020.

  1. RocksInMyHead

    RocksInMyHead God is innocent; Noah built on a floodplain!

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    Can’t seem to find a link that supports the slate article.
     
  3. hislegacy

    hislegacy This is me.

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    Oh look! Here is the other side of the story


    President Donald Trump has recommended a 1% federal pay raise for civilian employees in 2021, according to his proposed budget request.

    The White House on Monday released the president’s 2021 budget request to the public.

    Trump’s proposed federal pay raise is well below the 3.1% increase employees earned this year for 2020 — and falls short of the 3.5% raise members proposed last month with newly reintroduced
     
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  4. Aryeh Jay

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    Perhaps if the Democrats would stop doing coups and trying to overturn the 2016 election the things would be better. God Bless President Trump for keeping the best interests of loyal Americans in his sights and defending the Constitution from these unwarranted and false attacks.
     
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  5. RocksInMyHead

    RocksInMyHead God is innocent; Noah built on a floodplain!

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    What's the other side here?

    Edit: Here's the official White House statement - it was linked in the Slate piece.
    Message to the Congress on the 2021 Alternative Plan for Pay Adjustments | The White House
     
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  6. Handmaid for Jesus

    Handmaid for Jesus You can't steal my joy Supporter

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    So Trump is not citing a national emergency or serious economic conditions affecting the general welfare as a reason to reduce the pay raise to 1%?
     
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  9. ChristianForCats

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    Anyone who thinks we have the best economy ever needs to learn what that really means. It requires the entire middle class population to earn a living wage and not having any trade deals that cause job losses. Until we get to that point, there will always be problems with the economy.
     
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  10. Euodius

    Euodius Are you kitten me right meow? Supporter

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    With the way American economics is we could have both simultaneously. Both are relative statements - there's no double bind.
     
  11. Blade

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    Thank you.. I believe we are in the best one.. .. I guess its who you listen to or read. When I read a story I look at many sites to see if the one punishing ..which way to they lean. And in this case the one does. For me.. it matters. Forgive me not trying to offend.
     
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    What part of the middle class population does not earn a living wage?
     
  13. ChristianForCats

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    I take it you think the definition of middle class is people who earn a living wage.
     
  14. Aryeh Jay

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    Umm, do you realize that to be “Middle Class” a person has to meet the definition of “Middle Class”? Everyone in the “Middle Class” makes a livable wage or else they wouldn’t be “Middle Class”.
     
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  15. Aryeh Jay

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    And what is your definition of the Middle Class? The people who live in the middle of a state? The people who live in the middle of town?
     
  16. ChristianForCats

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    A livable wage based on what? Being able to raise children and live in a house?
     
  17. ChristianForCats

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    My understanding is there are a poverty line and a wealth line and in between those two numbers is what we call the middle class.
     
  18. Aryeh Jay

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    The middle class is in-between those two groups, but not everyone between those two groups are middle class.


    The middle class is…

    “characterized by a high material standard of living, sexual morality, and respect for property”

    And

    “a fluid heterogeneous socioeconomic grouping composed principally of business and professional people, bureaucrats, and some farmers and skilled workers sharing common social characteristics and values”



    According to a 2018 report from the Pew Research Center, 52% of American adults live in “middle class” households. The median income of that group was $78,442 in 2016.

    Pew looked at various household sizes. Here’s the income range you’d have to earn each year to be considered middle class, depending on the size of your family:


    Household of one: $26,093 to $78,281

    Household of two: $36,902 to $110,706

    Household of three: $45,195 to $135,586

    Household of four: $52,187 to $156,561

    Household of five: $58,347 to $175,041


    Definition of MIDDLE-CLASS


    52% of Americans are considered 'middle class'—here's how much money they earn
     
  19. Hank77

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    He's got to try to make up for the tax cuts and the trillions he has added to the deficit.
     
  20. iluvatar5150

    iluvatar5150 Well-Known Member

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    lol, what other side of the story? And here’s the link you forgot:

    Trump proposes federal pay raise, familiar retirement cuts in 2021 budget | Federal News Network
     
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