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Featured I think I figured out one, out of my many, "social issues"...

Discussion in 'Controversial Christian Theology' started by Neogaia777, Nov 10, 2018.

  1. Neogaia777

    Neogaia777 Apprentice Supporter

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    The main problem is when I sense evil in general, and I seem to go back and forth sometimes between everything being evil, and not everything being evil...

    But more specifically, is why I don't like "groups" or more than one on one interactions most of the time (if not preferred all of the time now)...

    I don't join groups, I avoid them like the plague, here is why I think... One person is trying to look and be cool, for, and in front of, and to be seen that way by all of the others, one person is trying to be funny, for the same reasons, another, usually several others, are trying to dominate the group and or conversations with their big, loud mouths, and this is how, and when, and why, "pecking orders" get established, and "clicks" get established, and it all seems so very extremely "fake" and "phony" to me... None of them, I feel, are being "real", and I think it makes some people not ever be real, or fake or phony all their life sometimes... Or at the very least be fake and phony "around other people", all trying to impress one another... Anyway, I don't like it, I don't like it all and I don't feel that can ever be helped now, just the way I see it...

    Even a friend of mine I had over, when we went to see one of my other friends in my building where I live, they were even doing it with each other, and I just wasn't saying much, mainly watching and observing, and much of the time, I just don't like what I see...

    I spend a lot of time alone now, isolated, and I know that's not good, but I can't help all the hypocrisy I see all around me... I hate fake...

    Not saying we should all be butt-heads either, to each other or anything... Cause all honesty and truth be told, most of the time, that is not being "real" either, and is very fake also...

    I'm trying to figure out "who I really am" and "who we all really are", as a race, as a species, apart from all that "garbage"...

    Fake is evil to me, and may be the source of all evil, IDK...?

    God Bless!
     
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  2. Neogaia777

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    Hard not to be jaded, I'm really trying hard not to be...

    God Bless!
     
  3. HTacianas

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    I tend to stay away from groups also. I can probably get along with any individual, but as you said, group dynamics is a problem for me. I feel like the objective of most groups is to weed out members they think don't belong. In the end it is the group that tears itself apart.
     
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  4. Neogaia777

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    "Some" might say that someone like "I" should "lead" the group, and that's even more scary and the last thing I want to do, mainly of fear of what it might do to me, make me a fake or phony and/or evil like them in the end... I do not want that at all...

    I wouldn't know how anyway, even if "someone" wanted me to do it... I think it would be really, very hard to stop myself from constantly being angry and intensely frustrated with them, which could turn me into a monster...

    God Bless!
     
  5. Neogaia777

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    Establishing the alpha's, acting like a pack of wolves or animals rather than human...

    No thank you...

    God Bless!
     
  6. 2PhiloVoid

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    ...I can understand part of where you're coming from emotionally; in some sense, perhaps you feel like you're being "left out" while others seem to form and maintain amiable social bonds among themselves?
     
  7. SkyWriting

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    Correct. We have faith by choice, in an environment that is not paradise with God walking around, like Adam had. Our choice is to live "not in paradise" with Faith in an unseen God.
    The only thing "not evil" is our faith. Even Jesus asked "Why would you call me good?"
     
  8. Neogaia777

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    I not being left out, I'm saying I am out... It's by (my) choice...

    It's not like I haven't tried, cause to find a place where I belong(ed) would be priceless to me, but you can't have real relationships with fake or phony people, or people that are pretending or putting on a front or a show... And, I don't feel like I should have to compromise myself to have or get it either, like many of the subordinates in most groups do or have to, and yet, even all of them are compromising themselves, their true selves, IMO... And, I've been burned by way to many people, way to many times, when I overlooked these things many, many times and on many occasions...

    God Bless!
     
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  9. Neogaia777

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    How does one do that...? A lot of patience I bet... Compassion for another... What about "pity", some are highly offended by pity...?

    God Bless!
     
  10. Neogaia777

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    I'm also just trying to say that, for the longest time I didn't know this, I just felt or started feeling really uncomfortable in and/or among groups, and I didn't know why for a long time, or what had changed (my perspective) and I think I'm starting to figure it out a bit now...

    What do I do, or what am I gonna do with it now though, that's the question I guess...

    God Bless!
     
  11. 2PhiloVoid

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    Sure, there's always going to be people who, in their own private struggles of having self-worth and dealing with their feelings of social inadequacy overcompensate by trying to put on a facade or a show or whatever they think they need to do in order to impress others. But saying this about other people doesn't really tell the rest of us how you've been 'burned' by them.

    You might also consider that some people, like myself for instance, purposely express myself through attempts at humor, not so much because I'm smart, but rather because earlier portions of my life were filled with circumstances that felt so dour, so hopeless, so depressing, so socially disconnected and awkward, that now that I'm older, wiser and in a better (more blessed situation), I've found that I can finally be the freer, more creative, more expressive person that I always wanted to be. And it's not a put on or a facade. I'm just being the 'me' that God made me to be.

    On the other hand, I'm also like you in that I'm very sensitive to the presence of various forms of Evil in the world and those things do sometimes unsettle me, particularly when I see people (like many in Hollywood, for instance) who put on facades for the sake of publicity and a show.
     
  12. Neogaia777

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    Cause nothings really changed, except me that is... The situation's still the same, nothings really changed, just that I have a new and different perspective to deal with, but, other than that, nothings really changed (at all)...?

    God Bless!
     
  13. Neogaia777

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    That's exactly what I'm saying that I don't want to do any longer, just to belong...? That's the compromise I'm talking about, one almost has to do it, or participate in it to belong, and that, really sucks... I don't like it, and I don't like like making attempts to do it or participate in it anymore...

    It's a "problem" for me, is all I'm saying...

    I'm trying to be as real and true as I can be, and as good as I can be, but all this social "stuff" seems to go against that aim for me... But in my heart of hearts I really do want to socialize with others, even in groups, I just wish it was different...

    Stealing, lying, cheating me, when I trusted them, and took them in and took care of them, did my very best to help them... has happened to me a lot of times... Yet I keep doing it... "why"...? Maybe I'm not very good at picking people, IDK...? I do tend to go for the sorriest and most sad and most pathetic of cases... These people have burned me bad, many, many times... But, I don't want to give up on all of them...

    I think that is awesome... Good to know not everyone is "faking it"...

    Yeah that's a problem for me, not participating in most modern entertainment, because of that, or TV, or the Media/news, trying to keep up with the world, (be a part of the world) in general, has made it difficult (to find/have friends, keep them, whatever) (do things with them, socialize with them, ect)...

    God Bless!
     
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  14. SkyWriting

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    With man this is not possible.
    Continuous prayer is the solution.
     
  15. Neogaia777

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  16. christine40

    christine40 Well-Known Member

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    are you an introvert?

    it does seem like it has become easier and easier for people to become more isolated, if they so chose due to being able to buy anything online, work at home, and even have food delivered

    all these conveniences are good for elderly people who can no longer drive but not so sure it's good for people who intentional turn away from people and live almost totally isolated

    (not referring to OP but know more people are becoming more "cut off" from social interactions)
     
  17. Neogaia777

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    Trying to figure that out...

    It does seem to be becoming a way of society nowadays...

    But, I don't know if mine is by choice, or just my situation...

    But, I seem to have no choice but to kind of see from "outside the box" now, in the present situation I am in (hence the OP)... And much of the time, I am not liking what I see...

    God Bless!
     
  18. Blade

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    Hmm well only Christ sees the heart.. so.. ME.. I see all the good in others 1st.. so many times.. what I see and dont like is me in them. So.. maybe I am the phony one.. the fake one. Maybe I am doing walking in away.. thats not being true

    I try to look at others as Christ looks at me. HAHA.. DUH He knows all the times I am fake phony (just to use your word) .. and then all the times I am true and real. In all times.... He is ALWAYS seeing talking about the GOOD in me. I may be BETTER.. in one moment of time.... where they are not...yet like them.. I am at other times phony fake...and just dont find see them when they are not.. Believers
     
  19. Neogaia777

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    So possibly true the line "Maybe what I see and don't like seeing in them is "me in them'"

    I am willing to admit that may be very possibly true... But I see a lot of ugliness, fakes and falsehoods and not mention just a lot of evil sometimes...

    And if that is (all) in me and a part of me...?

    Then I don't know what to say...?

    God Bless!
     
  20. DennisTate

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    A pastor Rick Joyner had a pretty amazing visionary dream of heaven back in 1995. If you scroll about half way down this page you will get right into what he was shown.... it sure did help me to look at what were are doing here on earth differently.....


    The Final Quest [English] Rick Joyner
     
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