Perhaps someone can shed some light (no pun intended lol) on the following:
I recently met someone who started seeing orbs a couple of years ago, but she was also hearing voices in concert with the appearances of them. Over time ... they began to speak to her, etc and so forth ... and she listened and believed every word they "spoke". I won't go into the extreme details they shared with her, so on and so forth ... as I don't think it's totally necessary ... but they actually claimed (all according to her) to be "Watchers" (they used multiple names actually, but Watchers were one of them) and told her of their purpose, and how they existed in an alternate dimension, and when they appeared in our own they appeared as forms of orb energy, and other manifestations, etc and so forth. To summarize, they told her they "owned" certain types of people via their having "gifted" them, infilling them as "walk ins", and that in the near future the goal was to hybridize human beings in order for them to materialize fully in this plane through our bodies, yada yada. They supposedly also took her to see different dimensions, and areas of existence, so on and so forth. Variations on a theme I've already heard and know of. They also claimed Jesus was one of their own who got out of control due to his infatuation with mankind, etc and so forth .... I'm including that tidbit since this is a Christian forum, and obviously these "Watchers" are denying Jesus as the Christ.
Now I have never interacted with orbs, nor seen them personally. I have met physical "angels", and I have also interacted with others who willfully gave themselves over to spirits and spiritual entities, even to the point of learning some of their "names" and so on and so forth. I've very rarely seen what people call "shadows", but I have seen them, and seen the effect they have on those in a room. I've seen a few physical manifestations as well that didn't involve people on any level ... I've dealt with curses, and things of that nature. I'm only saying this to show that some things I'm already familiar with ...
But a few months ago, I was dealing with a person who was trying to get past being a "conduit" for a specific entity that I had only dealt with once before .... but never knew the name of the entity. This person ended up choosing to give the entity residence and be it's puppet unfortunately ... but during that time I was dealing with her, I had an experience I have not had in my adult life ... only when I was a young child did I have this happen.
One night (of course lol), a bright flash of light appeared over me while I was laying down, and I began to shake whilst fully awake and staring at it .... my entire insides felt as though they were being literally turned inside out. It lasted for a few moments. The light appeared as though a curtain had been pulled back in midair to let it through, and it disappeared the same way. I couldn't help but to scream loudly at it.
Now .... I'm the kind of guy who doesn't get afraid of alot of things. I've been through the ringer lol ..... more than once ...... but this didn't cause me to experience fear. It was *terror*. From the inside out. It was a type of terror that I can't remember experiencing .... because the terror was the result of my physical body not being able to handle the light. The only way I can describe it, was as though my physical body was trying to be torn into whatever "dimension" that light came from. And it was the first time I can remember not wanting to deal with anything supernatural ever again ..... because it was literally more than I could "physically" handle.
I could go into more detail .... and no, I don't think it was a seizure. I think it was very seizure "like" .... but combined with what was happening with this other person who was the "conduit", miles away at the same time .... the "evidence" points to it being something else.
Now fast forward again to my friend who sees the orbs ..... whilst she was still friendly to me and telling me all about her experiences (she has since backed off) .... I told her about my own with the light. Oddly enough .... she said the Watchers didn't claim that as being part of one of their doings. Now .... keep in mind .... she is telling me that the Watchers are "good" and beneficial, and this and that. She also told me a lot of things that the Watchers supposedly said about me, so on and so forth .... stuff most people would want to hear. So it was interesting to me, that she didn't jump on the chance to claim that "visitation" as having belonged to the Watchers. Because she easily could have. In fact, she claimed to not know, and she said the Watchers who spoke with her didn't know either.
Now .... recently, I was still confused about the nature of that light that I personally saw. When I say confused, I'm saying I want a name and an agenda, etc and so forth. That is what I'm used to .... seeing a sort of "full disclosure". And I'm in a bit of spiritual warfare right now with several people ... but I finally had a name revealed to me that directly links back to that light ..... Lucifer. Lucern ferre .... light bearer. This was after prayer I got this name.
But it's been left as a sort of puzzle to me .... and I'm trying to make some sense of it, as it's still puzzling to me. I'm not totally sure how it connects to my old friend whom I initially experienced the light on account of in the first place, on up to this newer person who experiences the orbs .... yet doesn't claim the light I saw as being linked to the orbs/Watchers whatsoever. There is something I'm missing here, that I'm not seeing .... and I'm not sure what it is.
I'm familiar with many of the biblical accounts of "Lucifer" .... and I used to be of the mind that Satan and Lucifer were not the same entity. I believe Origen is the originator of that idea .... and concerning the Watchers, I've met individuals who proclaimed to "channel" Watchers and even exhibited power and influence as such .... so the orb thing is puzzling to me still (but it's mostly because I've never seen orbs myself, so I have no point of reference for that other than second hand accounts). I know there are some who like to classify and divide spiritual and supernatural entities up somewhat generically, or grouping everything into "evil demons" .... but that's not my experience. In my experience, first hand .... there are often names, and "purpose" behind why certain entities do certain things, choose certain people, so on and so forth. Tossing a "demon-stay away" label doesn't really work in my experience. So this light ... and the idea it was Lucifer, or linked to Lucifer .... and now my friend with these orbs ..... it's a puzzle I could use some insight on.
So anyone who read all of that and has first hand experience or knowledge .... I'd appreciate any insight :~) Second hand ideas are also appreciated ... but I really like first hand accounts the most, for what it's worth. I tried to provide a slim version of the accounts also, for sake of keeping my post short .... I could be more detailed, but I tried to hit the main points of what I'm asking. Thanx
