I need you guys :'(

[mukk_in]

"out of fear" not "our": sorry.

 

[AverageJonah]

Right now I'm kind of freaking out. I am afraid that I do not have the Holy Spirit/ghost. I'm very worried that my repentance is out of fear and that my coming to Christ was not a calling from God, but me trying to save myself. Come to think of it when I did come to God I was very afraid of hell and I still am. There have been times where I have been filled with joy and happy to serve the Lord because of how overjoyed and sure I was with Peace knowing that I was saved. I have aknowledged that I am a sinner and I need God to forgive me through Jesus's sacrifice on the cross. I know that I have to trust him and have faith in him for my salvation. I believe in Jesus but I can't tell if my belief is real or not, I have faith in Jesus but I don't know if it's real or not. I've sought to live according to God's will and I've definitely produced some fruit, I've also turned away from a lot of sin in my life and have asked jesus to help me overcome sin daily. I constantly pray to God in prayer thanking him for the trials he puts me through and I hope that this is just one of them. I am worried sick that I do not actually have the Holy Spirit and that all the things that I've been doing have just been my feeble attempts at saving myself and that God has not called me at all but my stupid, mortal, sefish, horrible, sick, twisted mind has lead me to God as a sort of safety net for insurance. I want to be sincere and I want to serve God but I'm just so afraid that he hasn't really called me and the fact that I'm putting so much effort into learning about God, doing what his word says, turning away from sin, and praying to him is just proof that I am not sincere and that my efforts is attempt to overcompensate. I'm crying while writing this because it's so sad to think about god just looking at me shaking his head in disgrace at me because I wasn't one of the elect that he has called to him and he hasn't granted me the gift of repentance and faith for salvation because it's not his will to save me. I know God is sovereign and just to choose who he hardens and who he has mercy but serving to glorify god is extremely hard with the end destination of my fight of faith being second death. I have spread the gospel to people even when I really was embarrassed and scared for awkwardness and even brought my friend to faith in Christ but it's so hard to serve with this constant fear that God condems me. I call on the name of the Lord Jesus Christ and God to forgive me and rescue me daily, I aknowledge that I'm sinner daily, I ask God to fill me with the Holy Spirit daily, but I just feel like the fact that I still struggle with the feelings of unrest, uncertainty, and condemnation shows that God has handed me over to my own terrible twisted mind and that my purpose is not to be a child of God, but a vehicle for God's wrath as desribed in romans 9. I go through feelings of not doing enough to please God and that I have to be more obedient to feelings that I am trusting too much in myself and not enough on grace. I feel horrible and have gone from panic mode to sheer sadness and tears while writing this. Please help me. Tell me the truth about what you all think and not just stuff to make me feel better please.

Lord, I just pray that you would give flipflop2234 your wisdom, revelation, and discernment to know your truth of his salvation. Reveal yourself to him as only you can. Show him in the scripture what your heart is concerning your love and purpose for him. Settle his mind and thoughts and give him your peaces that passes all understanding. In Jesus' name, amen.

 

[joinfree]

Right now I'm kind of freaking out. I am afraid that I do not have the Holy Spirit/ghost. I'm very worried .....

Listen to your heart and say us: DO YOU FELL IN LOVE WITH JESUS?

 

[AFrazier]

Right now I'm kind of freaking out. I am afraid that I do not have the Holy Spirit/ghost. I'm very worried that my repentance is out of fear and that my coming to Christ was not a calling from God, but me trying to save myself. Come to think of it when I did come to God I was very afraid of hell and I still am. There have been times where I have been filled with joy and happy to serve the Lord because of how overjoyed and sure I was with Peace knowing that I was saved. I have aknowledged that I am a sinner and I need God to forgive me through Jesus's sacrifice on the cross. I know that I have to trust him and have faith in him for my salvation. I believe in Jesus but I can't tell if my belief is real or not, I have faith in Jesus but I don't know if it's real or not. I've sought to live according to God's will and I've definitely produced some fruit, I've also turned away from a lot of sin in my life and have asked jesus to help me overcome sin daily. I constantly pray to God in prayer thanking him for the trials he puts me through and I hope that this is just one of them. I am worried sick that I do not actually have the Holy Spirit and that all the things that I've been doing have just been my feeble attempts at saving myself and that God has not called me at all but my stupid, mortal, sefish, horrible, sick, twisted mind has lead me to God as a sort of safety net for insurance. I want to be sincere and I want to serve God but I'm just so afraid that he hasn't really called me and the fact that I'm putting so much effort into learning about God, doing what his word says, turning away from sin, and praying to him is just proof that I am not sincere and that my efforts is attempt to overcompensate. I'm crying while writing this because it's so sad to think about god just looking at me shaking his head in disgrace at me because I wasn't one of the elect that he has called to him and he hasn't granted me the gift of repentance and faith for salvation because it's not his will to save me. I know God is sovereign and just to choose who he hardens and who he has mercy but serving to glorify god is extremely hard with the end destination of my fight of faith being second death. I have spread the gospel to people even when I really was embarrassed and scared for awkwardness and even brought my friend to faith in Christ but it's so hard to serve with this constant fear that God condems me. I call on the name of the Lord Jesus Christ and God to forgive me and rescue me daily, I aknowledge that I'm sinner daily, I ask God to fill me with the Holy Spirit daily, but I just feel like the fact that I still struggle with the feelings of unrest, uncertainty, and condemnation shows that God has handed me over to my own terrible twisted mind and that my purpose is not to be a child of God, but a vehicle for God's wrath as desribed in romans 9. I go through feelings of not doing enough to please God and that I have to be more obedient to feelings that I am trusting too much in myself and not enough on grace. I feel horrible and have gone from panic mode to sheer sadness and tears while writing this. Please help me. Tell me the truth about what you all think and not just stuff to make me feel better please.

Back around 1990, I experienced virtually the exact same crisis. I spoke to my pastor about it, and his answer was spot on, though I still found it difficult in the absence of that warm fuzzy feeling I was so used to.

He told me, "Faith is not a feeling. It's a choice."

After all these years, I'm telling you from one crisis sufferer to another ... that answer is not only the truth, but it's the best answer you'll ever get. You just have to digest the reality of it.

And by the way, "For if our heart condemn us, God is greater than our heart, and knoweth all things." 1 John 3:20

 

[joinfree]

....
Pastor.... told me, "Faith is not a feeling. It's a choice."......

Read between lines, the pastor told you:

"Faith is not ONLY a feeling. It's ALSO a choice."

 

[joinfree]

Back around 1990, I experienced virtually the exact same crisis. I spoke to my pastor about it, and his answer was spot on, though I still found it difficult in the absence of that warm fuzzy feeling I was so used to.

He told me, "Faith is not a feeling. It's a choice.".....

 

[longwait]

Atleast you believe that hell exists. There are many people who don't believe that and carry on with their lives committing all sorts of sinful acts because they do not fear the consequence of sin. Off course you are called. God does not want anyone to perish. Congratulations for bringing a soul to Christ. You will be rewarded for that and for your efforts at spreading the gospel despite feelings of awkwardness and embarrassment. God Bless.

 

[joinfree]

Atleast you believe that hell exists. There are many people who don't believe that .....

Faith is faithfulness to Knowledge. They know the hell, but not believe.

 

[FutureAndAHope]

It is not how sincere your faith is that saves you. Jesus is the saviour all we need to do is look to him.

The bible says "that the one that believes Jesus died and rose again will be saved", you believe that Jesus is real, you believe he died for you otherwise you would not be worried.

The cross of Christ offers forgiveness for every sin we commit now until the time we die, Jesus death was a life given in exchange for our life time of sins. While you look to Jesus, while you seek to be saved, you are just that "saved".

The bible says Jesus is faithful and just to forgive our sins. Faithful means to stick with you, to stay, just means he is fair.

Would it be fair for God to deny you salvation when you were trying to be saved? It would not be fair. God is fair. You are saved.

 

[joinfree]

It is not how sincere your faith is that saves you. Jesus is the saviour all we need to do is look to him. ....

"Who loves Me, fulfills my commandments" (to my memory, Bible, Son of God)

 

[Johnnz]

Jesus' hold on you is far greater than any grip you have on Him. Stop analysing. Accept Jesus knows you thoroughly and that He will be there with you wherever you are at.

John
NZ

 

[joinfree]

Jesus' hold on you is far greater than any grip you have on Him. ....

But the guy must do his part in this Love-relationship with Jesus. Be aware, guy! Soon from "I need you, guys" would become "I need you, the theistic gays", if you won't trust Jesus'es way.

 

[ladodgers6]

Right now I'm kind of freaking out. I am afraid that I do not have the Holy Spirit/ghost. I'm very worried that my repentance is out of fear and that my coming to Christ was not a calling from God, but me trying to save myself. Come to think of it when I did come to God I was very afraid of hell and I still am. There have been times where I have been filled with joy and happy to serve the Lord because of how overjoyed and sure I was with Peace knowing that I was saved. I have aknowledged that I am a sinner and I need God to forgive me through Jesus's sacrifice on the cross. I know that I have to trust him and have faith in him for my salvation. I believe in Jesus but I can't tell if my belief is real or not, I have faith in Jesus but I don't know if it's real or not. I've sought to live according to God's will and I've definitely produced some fruit, I've also turned away from a lot of sin in my life and have asked jesus to help me overcome sin daily. I constantly pray to God in prayer thanking him for the trials he puts me through and I hope that this is just one of them. I am worried sick that I do not actually have the Holy Spirit and that all the things that I've been doing have just been my feeble attempts at saving myself and that God has not called me at all but my stupid, mortal, sefish, horrible, sick, twisted mind has lead me to God as a sort of safety net for insurance. I want to be sincere and I want to serve God but I'm just so afraid that he hasn't really called me and the fact that I'm putting so much effort into learning about God, doing what his word says, turning away from sin, and praying to him is just proof that I am not sincere and that my efforts is attempt to overcompensate. I'm crying while writing this because it's so sad to think about god just looking at me shaking his head in disgrace at me because I wasn't one of the elect that he has called to him and he hasn't granted me the gift of repentance and faith for salvation because it's not his will to save me. I know God is sovereign and just to choose who he hardens and who he has mercy but serving to glorify god is extremely hard with the end destination of my fight of faith being second death. I have spread the gospel to people even when I really was embarrassed and scared for awkwardness and even brought my friend to faith in Christ but it's so hard to serve with this constant fear that God condems me. I call on the name of the Lord Jesus Christ and God to forgive me and rescue me daily, I aknowledge that I'm sinner daily, I ask God to fill me with the Holy Spirit daily, but I just feel like the fact that I still struggle with the feelings of unrest, uncertainty, and condemnation shows that God has handed me over to my own terrible twisted mind and that my purpose is not to be a child of God, but a vehicle for God's wrath as desribed in romans 9. I go through feelings of not doing enough to please God and that I have to be more obedient to feelings that I am trusting too much in myself and not enough on grace. I feel horrible and have gone from panic mode to sheer sadness and tears while writing this. Please help me. Tell me the truth about what you all think and not just stuff to make me feel better please.

Great post my brother in Christ!!!

I am a convinced Classical Reformed Calvinist; not to be confused with Hyper-Calvinist. Anyway, I have spend most of my time studying Justification & Sanctification, Grace & Works, Covenant of Works & Covenant of Grace, legalism & antinomianism, Paul & James. I think you get the picture. John Bunyan wrote that legalism & antinomianism is crucial for believers to understand in relation to Justification by Faith Alone!

What you are facing brother, we have or are facing everyday. As Graeme Goldworthy once wrote even believers need to hear/read the Gospel everyday. Because we are Simultaneously Righteous and a Sinners. Luther & Calvin agreed that we (the ungodly) are DECLARED righteous before a Holy God because of Christ who is the object of our Faith. We receive with empty hands a Divine gift of Love and Grace for FREE!

Romans 4:4 Now to the one who works, wages are not credited as a gift but as an obligation. 5 However, to the one who does not work but trusts God who justifies the ungodly, their faith is credited as righteousness.

So my brother in Christ, it will come a lot of times that I will need you to share the Gospel of Grace with me. So listen, and take the sweetest water you'll ever taste. Our assurance, confidence, peace of conscience is the Son of God. Whom was sent to redeem the ungodly from their sins. So He came down, in time & history in the flesh, under the Law. The Promised Seed came not to abolish the Law, but to fulfill it with perfect obedience for us the ungodly.

Matt. 5:17Do not think that I have come to abolish the Law or the Prophets; I have not come to abolish them, but to fulfill them.

Now notice it says God justifies the ungodly Romans 4:5. Not to the once who works, but in the one who believes in God who justifies the ungodly! This is the good news, not repent and believe. This is where a lot of Christians get lost. Not even our works as believers saves us. Because Christians tend to locate their salvation in their response or works, rather than in the Gospel itself; namely Christ Jesus Alone! If a Christian does not understand the distinction between Justification & Sanctification. They will confuse and distort the Gospel as Law, and Law as Gospel.

The Gospel is the good news that the Gospel has done what the Law requires! The Law say "DO", the Gospel says "DONE"! This is the good news for the ungodly. Now have I denied good works in the Christian Life? No! But where one places them determines if they do understand the Good News or not. In Justification of a sinner there is no place here. In Sanctification of the Sinner, yes good deeds are perform. But this is a Life Long Process because we have not entered glorification yet. But we already saved in Christ, God does not leave us stranded half-way, to fin for ourselves. In the Covenant of Redemption God swears that He WILL DO FOR US!

Scripture, when it treats of justification by faith, leads us in a very different direction. Turning away our view from our own works, it bids us look only to the mercy of God and the perfection of Christ. The order of justification which it sets before us is this: first, God of his mere gratuitous goodness is pleased to embrace the sinner, in whom he sees nothing that can move him to mercy but wretchedness, because he sees him altogether naked and destitute of good works. He, therefore, seeks the cause of kindness in himself, that thus he may affect the sinner by a sense of his goodness, and induce him, in distrust of his own works, to cast himself entirely upon his mercy for salvation. This is the meaning of faith by which the sinner comes into the possession of salvation, when, according to the doctrine of the Gospel, he perceives that he is reconciled by God; when, by the intercession of Christ, he obtains the pardon of his sins, and is justified; and, though renewed by the Spirit of God, considers that, instead of leaning on his own works, he must look solely to the righteousness which is treasured up for him in Christ.
John Calvin Institutes of the Christian Religion (3.11.16)

The phrase “in him” I have preferred to retain, rather than render it “by him” because it has in my opinion more expressiveness and force. For we are enriched in Christ, inasmuch as we are members of his body, and are engrafted into him: nay more, being made one with him, he makes us share with him in everything that he has received from the Father.
John Calvin Commentary on 1 Corinthians 1:5

And I leave you with this gem from the Heidelberg Catechism. Hope you enjoy. Reach out to me if you need more.

59. Q.
But what does it help you
now that you believe all this?
A.
In Christ I am righteous before God
and heir to life everlasting. 1

• 1. Hab 2:4; Jn 3:36; Rom 1:17; 5:1, 2.

60. Q.
How are you righteous before God?
A.
Only by true faith in Jesus Christ. 1
Although my conscience accuses me
that I have grievously sinned
against all God's commandments,
have never kept any of them, 2
and am still inclined to all evil, 3
yet God, without any merit of my own, 4
out of mere grace, 5
imputes to me
the perfect satisfaction,
righteousness, and holiness of Christ. 6
He grants these to me
as if I had never had nor committed
any sin,
and as if I myself had accomplished
all the obedience
which Christ has rendered for me, 7
if only I accept this gift
with a believing heart. 8

• 1. Rom 3:21-28; Gal 2:16; Eph 2:8, 9; Phil 3:8-11.
• 2. Rom 3:9, 10.
• 3. Rom 7:23.
• 4. Deut 9:6; Ezek 36:22; Tit 3:4, 5.
• 5. Rom 3:24; Eph 2:8.
• 6. Rom 4:3-5; 2 Cor 5:17-19; 1 Jn 2:1, 2.
• 7. Rom 4:24, 25; 2 Cor 5:21.
• 8. Jn 3:18; Acts 16:30, 31; Rom 3:22.

 

[joinfree]

Great post my brother in Christ!!! ....

 

[FutureAndAHope]

"Who loves Me, fulfills my commandments" (to my memory, Bible, Son of God)

FlipFlop IS trying to keep the commandments, as you can read here:

fact that I'm putting so much effort into learning about God, doing what his word says, turning away from sin, and praying to him is just proof that I am not sincere and that my efforts is attempt to overcompensate

When a person struggles with faith, they don't need to be told to keep the commandments, that comes as a result of the love they feel for God when they know he has forgiven them. Only a rebellious sinner needs to hear they must follow God's commands, and I can tell flipflp is not the rebellions type.

 

[Dave G.]

I agree, we live in an old sin nature body, we aren't going to be 100% pure till we go to be with the Lord, so weakness shows up. Our righteousness before the father is in Christ Jesus, not in ourselves. To fortify that we need the Word, dive in head first. Fellowship can help too. But in these times evil is getting stronger too, it's all around us, springing up like weeds everywhere, you pluck one out of your life and another shows up growing right next to it. There are weeds of doubt, temptation, people living next door in sin and it starts to look natural etc. We are to be on guard diligently. It's all about discernment and that comes from the Holy Spirit.

 

[joinfree]

.... I can tell flipflp is not the rebellions type.

You are a kind person, I need one more "like" to be able to post my own beutifull threads. Would you help me out?

 

[FutureAndAHope]

You are a kind person, I need one more "like" to be able to post my own beutifull threads. Would you help me out?

If you post some thread I like then you will get likes, otherwise you are just going to have to rough it.

 

[joinfree]

If you post some thread I like then you will get likes, otherwise you are just going to have to rough it.

I am not allowed to post threads, because I have no 5 likes "the stars in my profile". But you can give "likes" to my comments. This is also a comment.

 

[FutureAndAHope]

Ok share your testimony here .... if I like it you will get my like.