I know his horse has been beaten to death, but maybe new evidence

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It's old news. He's a natural born citizen by virtue of his mother being a United States citizen. It's no different than with Ted Cruz. ;)

Well...there's some differences, no one's claiming Ted Cruz is a secret Muslim who's attempting to destroy America. Nope, the birthers are amazingly silent over this. Wonder why? :confused:
tulc(is honestly puzzled by their silence) :sorry:
 
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Well...there's some differences, no one's claiming Ted Cruz is a secret Muslim who's attempting to destroy America. Nope, the birthers are amazingly silent over this. Wonder why? :confused:
tulc(is honestly puzzled by their silence) :sorry:
NHE is honestly puzzled why tulc wants to go off-topic to discuss "My Muslim faith", as Obama himself refers to it. :scratch:
 
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NHE is honestly puzzled why tulc wants to go off-topic to discuss "My Muslim faith", as Obama himself refers to it. :scratch:

Talk about beating dead horses. You'd think his "Muslim faith" would convince him to go to mosques or observe the five pillars of Islam.

We have:

1. Obama professing to be a Christian.
2. Obama going to church.
3. And Obama swearing under the Bible.

You have Obama accidentally saying he's a Muslim once and immediately correcting himself.


http://www.voanews.com/content/obama_using_two_bibles_at_swearing_in/1587823.html
 
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Talk about beating dead horses. You'd think his "Muslim faith" would convince him to go to mosques or observe the five pillars of Islam.

We have:

1. Obama professing to be a Christian.
2. Obama going to church.
3. And Obama swearing under the Bible.

You have Obama accidentally saying he's a Muslim once and immediately correcting himself.

Even less so. In the interview context Obama is talking about how people refer to 'his Muslim faith'. The interview wrongly corrects him with 'your Christian faith' and Obama accepts it and continues.

If people had been accusing him of a secret moonbase. and he said 'People keep talking about my secret moonbase' it's not an admission of said lunar supervillain lair. :D

At this point there's a group of people for whom no amount of evidence will ever convince them that Obama isn't a secret Kenyan muslim communist. All those Christian, American, Capitalist things he does, are just camoflage for his real evil schemes. :doh:
 
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At this point there's a group of people for whom no amount of evidence will ever convince them that Obama isn't a secret Kenyan muslim communist. All those Christian, American, Capitalist things he does, are just camoflage for his real evil schemes. :doh:
Exactly ... Obamacare. ^_^

Everything else is a distraction.
 
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NHE is honestly puzzled why tulc wants to go off-topic to discuss "My Muslim faith", as Obama himself refers to it. :scratch:

not real clear on how a sentence works huh? No need to be ashamed it happens to all of us eventually. :wave:
tulc(merry Christmas dude!) :clap:
 
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Talk about beating dead horses. You'd think his "Muslim faith" would convince him to go to mosques or observe the five pillars of Islam.

We have:

1. Obama professing to be a Christian.
2. Obama going to church.
3. And Obama swearing under the Bible.

You have Obama accidentally saying he's a Muslim once and immediately correcting himself.


http://www.voanews.com/content/obama_using_two_bibles_at_swearing_in/1587823.html

In the end, does it really matter what his "true beliefs" are?

I will guarantee, there have been plenty of politicians who have pretended to be christians, because they knew they would never get elected if they didn't.

The only thing that matters, is Obama's actions.
 
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I cannot wait for the day a pagan lesbian is elected president...just to watch the conservatives' heads spin.

A person's faith has nothing to do with whether or not they are qualified for a job. By US law, it doesn't matter where anyone was born. If they have one parent who is a US citizen, they are a citizen.

John McCain was born in the Panama Canal district (not a US territory). He's a US citizen because his parents were.

Ted Cruz was born in Canada to a US citizen and a Cuban citizen. He is a US citizen.


Now...get over it and find something else to get your shorts in a knot about.
 
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Yah. He really ought to step down over that one. Nixon's stuff was child's play by comparison.

But...But...Nixon was a republican...he had a free pass to order the Watergate break-in, lie about it repeatedly to Congress and the American people. He was in office when Roe v. Wade was decided by the Supreme Court and never bothered to attempt to get congress to craft legislation to override that decision...

But...it's all good...
Nixon lied, but its ok, he was a Republican
Ford was useless, but its ok, he was a Republican
Reagan presided over some of the dumbest economic ideas known to man and lied about Iran-Contra, but its ok, he was a Republican
Bush 1 was a blooming idiot, but its ok, he was a Republican
Bush 2 lied about the WMD in Iraq, but its ok, he was a Republican.

Hmmm...
 
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But...But...Nixon was a republican...he had a free pass to order the Watergate break-in, lie about it repeatedly to Congress and the American people. He was in office when Roe v. Wade was decided by the Supreme Court and never bothered to attempt to get congress to craft legislation to override that decision...

But...it's all good...
Nixon lied, but its ok, he was a Republican
Ford was useless, but its ok, he was a Republican
Reagan presided over some of the dumbest economic ideas known to man and lied about Iran-Contra, but its ok, he was a Republican
Bush 1 was a blooming idiot, but its ok, he was a Republican
Bush 2 lied about the WMD in Iraq, but its ok, he was a Republican.

Hmmm...
:thumbsup: Great perspective, ProudMom

The greatest faults of all Republican presidents combined don't total up to the failures which Obama has singularly foisted on the nation.
 
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:thumbsup: Great perspective, ProudMom

The greatest faults of all Republican presidents combined don't total up to the failures which Obama has singularly foisted on the nation.

I would disagree with you there...

Bush 2's lies about Iraq rank right up there...but hey, it's ok, he sent thousands of young men and women to their deaths for absolutely no good reason. He's responsible for thousands more who will have to live with disabilities, PTSD, etc. the rest of their lives.

What has Obama done to match that one? I can't think of anything that horrible.
 
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It's old news. He's a natural born citizen by virtue of his mother being a United States citizen. It's no different than with Ted Cruz. ;)

Actually there is a difference. He's a natural born citizen by virtue of being born in Hawaii. Ted Cruz was not born in an American state and thus is a natural born citizen by virtue of jus sanguinis as opposed to President Obama who is a natural born citizen by jus soli.
 
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Actually there is a difference. He's a natural born citizen by virtue of being born in Hawaii. Ted Cruz was not born in an American state and thus is a natural born citizen by virtue of jus sanguinis as opposed to President Obama who is a natural born citizen by jus soli.

I was replying to the allegations that Mr. Obama was born in Kenya. It still doesn't matter...as long as his mother was a US citizen, his citizenship is not in doubt. It was a rabbit trail of baloney to distract the true haters from the rest of the GOPs crazy agenda.
 
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