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Discussion in 'Introduce Yourself' started by Whyayeman, Dec 8, 2018.

  1. Whyayeman

    Whyayeman New Member

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    There are some big differences in attitude between UK and US Christians towards money and its acquisition. For example, I learned at church (in UK) about it being easier for a rich man to pass through the eye of a needle than to enter the Kingdom of Heaven. This teaching seems to be forgotten by many American denominations.
    Perhaps distance obscures ...
     
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  2. Aspzan

    Aspzan Active Member Supporter

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    It's probably different depending on the church, not the country. I assume
     
  3. maintenance man

    maintenance man Well-Known Member Supporter

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    Welcome to CF!

    The scripture you are referring to is talking about a person who becomes more dependent on money than they are on God. It's not bad to be rich - but if you are rich your money can pull you away from God.

    Nevertheless, you are right, some churches seem to have lost their way.
     
  4. Anhelyna

    Anhelyna Handmaid of God Supporter CF Senior Ambassador

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    Welcome to CF :wave:

    There are many posters from the UK here now - yes even me :p

    I suspect you will find that there are a lot of differences between UK and USA ideas - as indeed there are in language.
     
  5. Aspzan

    Aspzan Active Member Supporter

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    I realised this was an introduction. Welcome to CF! :grinning:
     
  6. SkyWriting

    SkyWriting The Librarian Supporter

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    Each church is different, even within the same denominations.
     
  7. Whyayeman

    Whyayeman New Member

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    What is different for different churches - surely not the Bible?
    I do understand about cultural differences across the Atlantic, but surely the message of material wealth being a hindrance to entering Heaven survived the crossing? It seems close to the core of Christian teaching.
     
  8. Aspzan

    Aspzan Active Member Supporter

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    I'm not sure tbh. I think it's probably mentioned in both areas but more apparent here
     
  9. Albion

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    Hello. You notice that three posters before me mentioned that it depends on which churches we are looking at. I absolutely agree with that.

    Generally speaking, the emphasis that you are referring to is uncharacteristic of the major denominations that most people belong to. It is more commonly found among the smaller, independent congregations whose members are mainly from the lower income levels of society. The message you are referring to has an appeal for obvious reasons...and I suspect that you will find that the same holds true for the UK as well.
     
  10. Its True

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    This is a very much non-overlooked topic. There are many verses in the Bible that teach against lusting after worldly wealth.
    (Matthew 6:19-21)
    *19* Lay not up for yourselves treasures upon earth, where moth and rust doth corrupt, and where thieves break through and steal:
    *20* But lay up for yourselves treasures in heaven, where neither moth nor rust doth corrupt, and where thieves do not break through nor steal:
    *21* For where your treasure is, there will your heart be also.
    (1 Timothy 6:7-10)
    *7* For we brought nothing into this world, and it is certain we can carry nothing out.
    *8* And having food and raiment let us be therewith content.
    *9* But they that will be rich fall into temptation and a snare, and into many foolish and hurtful lusts, which drown men in destruction and perdition.
    *10* For the love of money is the root of all evil: which while some coveted after, they have erred from the faith, and pierced themselves through with many sorrows.
    (Matthew 6:24)
    *24* No man can serve two masters: for either he will hate the one, and love the other; or else he will hold to the one, and despise the other. Ye cannot serve God and mammon.

    I can go on.

    The bottom line, if we concern ourselves with nothing but worldly temptations and worries, we'll stay worldly. In a society saturated in Capitalism, I can only pray for the souls of my brothers and sisters. I myself find that I am a slave to the system. I work, pay bills, acquire property, and do it all over again, every day. However, I try and be content with my current position while in the back of my mind I pray for his return.
     
  11. Albion

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    Keep in mind the fact that in non-Capitalist countries, who gets what property is even more the focus.
     
  12. Its True

    Its True New Member

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    Duly noted!
     
  13. Whyayeman

    Whyayeman New Member

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    In my view this is not about capitalism. I think that post draws a red herring across the discussion.
    It is about interpretations of Christian teaching.
     
  14. sunshine100

    sunshine100 Well-Known Member Supporter

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    Hello and welcome
     
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