I Hate Caitlyn Jenner: Liberals turn on Jenner after she criticizes Clinton and defends Trump.

[PsychoeDial]

Always Bruce.
Ya just cant change DNA no matter how many parts are taken off.

Amen. And Bruce is Catholic. I would think his present condition conflicts with the teachings of the church at best. Much less the inspired word of God that condemns such things as this.

 

[MikeK]

I read the article in the OP and what I saw was someone took a sample of tweets from random Internet ya-hoos and are presenting it was "LIBERALS". Ok, sure, those people don't like Jenner anymore. I'm a liberal, the only thing I ever wanted from Jenner is for Jenner to go away. Along with everybody related and any TV show connected. Plenty of Conservatives came out to attack Jenner when the transition happened and now some of those same people are coming back cheering for the political views. Woo hoo.

But I doubt you care to see the nuance in it. Liberals = BAD Conservatives = GOOD to you, and that's the binary. I'm BAD because I'm a liberal. You're GOOD because you're a conservative. What a world.

That sums it up. I know and talk politics with a lot of conservatives and liberals. Decent people. Accomplished people. Respectable people. Not one of them has ever mentioned loving or hating Caitlyn Jenner, or even mentioned him or her at all that I recall. The only people who seem at all interested are internet busybodies...the same type that are interested in all sorts of whinging but never seem interested in talking about how they themselves could personally do more to better serve God and neighbor.

 

[benedictaoo]

I would hope that this encounter with Bruce and these other men on the bus help the viewership to realize the tolerance campaign on the Trans part is conditional. That Bruce is a Conservative is unacceptable to these men who are on the bus he chartered.
The idea that one of them says if Bruce doesn't change his point of view as a life long Republican could result in his being isolated and abandoned by this community is telling. They expect to be tolerated as men in dresses, they demand access to women's facilities which if put into law insures any man that same right, and yet they will turn on one of their own for his political views.
That they're Liberal is saying they want more government interference in their life and more government control.
Which is odd I think for men who think they are liberated when they dress as women but don't commit to the surgery that removes any traces of their former manhood.

In any case, I had to search for those show clips to find what's become of Bruce since he's altered his identity. And really, I wonder if all of this will fade away in a year or two and he'll come out with the apology or excuse of his having done this as some sort of social experiment.
The Kardashian clan are addicted to self-exploitation. I think Bruce being the only true celebrity at the time he felt marginalized and overwhelmed by the women in his life. This is his way to get out there and put the spotlight on himself.

Just my thoughts. In any case what a sad transition from the athlete I remember to this travesty in a dress with a very botched bit of plastic surgery to boot. I feel for his children. Especially his sons.

That's the sad thing, coming out hurt his real family members, mother/children, not those people who came from they guy who got O.J off the hook for murder. This is all Hollywood superficial nonsense. We need to get back to basics here. Hollywood has no business getting involved in politics this way. Shut up and sing, shut up and dance, shut up and act. Vote and support for who you want but don't publicize it and ostracize who disagrees. They wouldn't let Bruce speak and he was trying to say politics have nothing to do with this. Politics is about the economy and military, etc. Not whether or not a man can go into a woman bathroom. And the man/woman who was arguing with him was, I think the guy who was on Dr. OZ who was the guy who flew the chopper in the Oj chase, I think. He went on Dr. OZ with his transition story. Really weird one. He wants to stay married to his wife. Be a father still to his kids. Weird. But anyway, I like how they brought him in to handle Bruce. The women needed a man to go up against the other man. Somethings you just can't change. That guy was mad probably because Bruce looks better then him. lol.

 

[benedictaoo]

Amen. And Bruce is Catholic. I would think his present condition conflicts with the teachings of the church at best. Much less the inspired word of God that condemns such things as this.

Didn't know he was Catholic. I'm sure in Hollywood, he's seeing that in the rear. Yeah, it's against Catholic teaching giving way to the lifestyle and feelings, that would be a sin but the Church would understand it being an illness and him having a illness is not a sin. It's giving into it and living it willfully would be the sin.

 

[benedictaoo]

That sums it up. I know and talk politics with a lot of conservatives and liberals. Decent people. Accomplished people. Respectable people. Not one of them has ever mentioned living or hating Caitlyn Jenner, or even mentioned him or her. The only people who seem at all interested are internet busybodies...the same type that are interested in all sorts of whinging but never seem interested in talking about how they themselves could personally do more to better serve God and neighbor.

Yeah, it never happens... if Mikek doesn't experience it, it just does't happen.

 

[PsychoeDial]

Didn't know he was Catholic. I'm sure in Hollywood, he's seeing that in the rear. Yeah, it's against Catholic teaching giving way to the lifestyle and feelings, that would be a sin but the Church would understand it being an illness and him having a illness is not a sin. It's giving into it and living it willfully would be the sin.

And he's making a good living giving into it with his own series on the same network as that of his former wifes. And that occurred because Kim Kardashian's mother sold her sex tape and started the whole process off. Which is why she's the manager of those she exploits now.
I think the whole lot of them forgot they were Catholic.

 

[benedictaoo]

And he's making a good living giving into it with his own series on the same network as that of his former wifes. And that occurred because Kim Kardashian's mother sold her sex tape and started the whole process off. Which is why she's the manager of those she exploits now.
I think the whole lot of them forgot they were Catholic.

Exactly. Another one of my own personal theories is living with that bunch drove him crazy. They'd be enough to make anyone confused. They are the most superficial bunch on the planet. And yeah prostituting her own daughter, wow but look at Sanders, he wrote inappropriate content and now is running for Prez. I mean how more immoral can we get? How did we ever get to this place? Where a egotistical tycoon, a murderess, and a socialist ex inappropriate content writer runs for Prez and have a chance! I have to agree with the JW's, this is Satan's system and we should not be involved in this mess.

 

[LoAmmi]

Exactly. Another one of my own personal theories is living with that bunch drove him crazy. They'd be enough to make anyone confused. They are the most superficial bunch on the planet. And yeah prostituting her own daughter, wow but look at Sanders, he wrote inappropriate content and now is running for Prez. I mean how more immoral can we get? How did we ever get to this place? Where a egotistical tycoon, a murderess, and a socialist ex inappropriate content writer runs for Prez and have a chance! I have to agree with the JW's, this is Satan's system and we should not be involved in this mess.

inappropriate content writer? Are we talking about that one paper he wrote in the 70s? You're making it sound like he was involved in the adult entertainment industry.

 

[PsychoeDial]

Exactly. Another one of my own personal theories is living with that bunch drove him crazy. They'd be enough to make anyone confused. They are the most superficial bunch on the planet. And yeah prostituting her own daughter, wow but look at Sanders, he wrote inappropriate content and now is running for Prez. I mean how more immoral can we get? How did we ever get to this place? Where a egotistical tycoon, a murderess, and a socialist ex inappropriate content writer runs for Prez and have a chance! I have to agree with the JW's, this is Satan's system and we should not be involved in this mess.

I personally think America fell to this state when the converse of righteousness was given lawful permission to overcome morality, decency, common sense, and sound Biblical doctrine.
We gave the enemy a legal secular inroad and now we shouldn't be surprised the country is going to Hell.

 

[Michie]

They are not Catholic. They are Armenian Orthodox but only superficially. When they go to Church in Casablancas it is evangelical. And Bruce/Caitlyn has struggled with gender since he was a child. His sister and mom testified to that.

And he's making a good living giving into it with his own series on the same network as that of his former wifes. And that occurred because Kim Kardashian's mother sold her sex tape and started the whole process off. Which is why she's the manager of those she exploits now.
I think the whole lot of them forgot they were Catholic.

 

[Michie]

Why not? It is discussion afterall.

I said it was my own theory based on nothing. I also said So please don't post back about it.

 

[Michie]

Why not? It is discussion afterall.

I said it was my own theory based on nothing. I also said So please don't post back about it.

 

[Michie]

Bruce's Mom is Catholic but Bruce has not practiced Catholicism in forever.

Amen. And Bruce is Catholic. I would think his present condition conflicts with the teachings of the church at best. Much less the inspired word of God that condemns such things as this.

 

[Michie]

This board is whacked out. This cannot just be my phone. Sorry for the repeats.

 

[PsychoeDial]

They are not Catholic. They are Armenian Orthodox but only superficially. When they go to Church in Casablancas it is evangelical. And Bruce/Caitlyn has struggled with gender since he was a child. His sister and mom testified to that.

Thank you for the clarification on Bruce's faith.
As to his mother's knowledge of his issues I saw a snippet featuring her reaction seeing her son dressed as a woman and she'd said she had no idea he had struggled with this for any period of time. She also refuses to call Bruce by any other name than that belonging to her son.

 

[Michie]

I watch the show. She knew but thought it was just cross dressing. His mother and him have had a strained relationship throughout most of their lives. Looks like they are mending fences now though.

Thank you for the clarification on Bruce's faith.
As to his mother's knowledge of his issues I saw a snippet featuring her reaction seeing her son dressed as a woman and she'd said she had no idea he had struggled with this for any period of time. She also refuses to call Bruce by any other name than that belonging to her son.

 

[PsychoeDial]

Must have been a different interview than what I saw of her saying she didn't know. The commentary in response was that very often mothers are the last to know.
Either way, when Bruce has suffered this condition since he was young it is a shame that there wasn't help for him early on. Now rather than help he's mutilating what God gave him to match the mental illness rather than heal it. That's a tragedy not so much for him but for the grandchildren that will be confused wondering where grandpa went to when they're too young to understand.

 

[Michie]

I figure somehow, with God's help, it will work itself out. Just pray for the family.

 

[benedictaoo]

Thank you for the clarification on Bruce's faith.
As to his mother's knowledge of his issues I saw a snippet featuring her reaction seeing her son dressed as a woman and she'd said she had no idea he had struggled with this for any period of time. She also refuses to call Bruce by any other name than that belonging to her son.

I heard her say she thought Bruce's issues were that he had an insatiable need to be in the limelight and he never got over all the attention he got when he won the gold way back when.

 

[benedictaoo]

I personally think America fell to this state when the converse of righteousness was given lawful permission to overcome morality, decency, common sense, and sound Biblical doctrine.
We gave the enemy a legal secular inroad and now we shouldn't be surprised the country is going to Hell.

RvW was the beginning to the end for us.