I don`t actually think the sun will swallow our planet one day

[Ursus1985]

Hello again, you know they say the earth will be swallowed by our sun one day, but when the sun gets bigger and less dense, our planet will be driven away from it not into it, they miscalculate the gravitation effect like they do with dark materie, they made up dark materie to fill in the gaps in their theory but it have never existed in the first place, and since we are moving very fast in space our planet will enter orbit around another sun one day, so life here on our planet is infinite should be because of this, because when enough energy and materie has entered a black hole it becomes a new sun again and that it how it goes, so life won`t end here on our planet, does god say anything about here on our planet being forever by the way?

 

[crossnote]

Hello again, you know they say the earth will be swallowed by our sun one day, but when the sun gets bigger and less dense, our planet will be driven away from it not into it, they miscalculate the gravitation effect like they do with dark materie, they made up dark materie to fill in the gaps in their theory but it have never existed in the first place, and since we are moving very fast in space our planet will enter orbit around another sun one day, so life here on our planet is infinite should be because of this, because when enough energy and materie has entered a black hole it becomes a new sun again and that it how it goes, so life won`t end here on our planet, does god say anything about here on our planet being forever by the way?

Lasting forever? Nope...

But the day of the Lord will come as a thief in the night; in the which the heavens shall pass away with a great noise, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat, the earth also and the works that are therein shall be burned up. Seeing then that all these things shall be dissolved, what manner of persons ought ye to be in all holy conversation and godliness, Looking for and hasting unto the coming of the day of God, wherein the heavens being on fire shall be dissolved, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat? Nevertheless we, according to his promise, look for new heavens and a new earth, wherein dwelleth righteousness.
(2Pe 3:10-13)

 

[trophy33]

Hello again, you know they say the earth will be swallowed by our sun one day, but when the sun gets bigger and less dense, our planet will be driven away from it not into it, they miscalculate the gravitation effect like they do with dark materie, they made up dark materie to fill in the gaps in their theory but it have never existed in the first place, and since we are moving very fast in space our planet will enter orbit around another sun one day, so life here on our planet is infinite should be because of this, because when enough energy and materie has entered a black hole it becomes a new sun again and that it how it goes, so life won`t end here on our planet, does god say anything about here on our planet being forever by the way?

How do you imagine the life on this planet to survive the exchange of suns?

Bible does not speak about our planet, but about earth as dry land and heavens as what we see in the sky. This will be somehow changed and new. Not sure, what "scientifically" will happen regarding this change. Changing the planet' position may explain "new heavens", because constellations of stars will be different. And some recreation of planet's surface, new teraforming, can explain the "new earth".

But these are all just speculations, we need to wait to see.

 

[Ursus1985]

How do you imagine the life on this planet to survive the exchange of suns?

Bible does not speak about our planet, but about earth as dry land and heavens as what we see in the sky. This will be somehow changed and new. Not sure, what "scientifically" will happen regarding this change. Changing the planet' position may explain "new heavens", because constellations of stars will be different.

It should go smoothly really, our planet will move through space with our sun until he reaches another sun and then orbit it slowly, it`s just a theory though

 

[trophy33]

It should go smoothly really, our planet will move through space with our sun until he reaches another sun and then orbit it slowly, it`s just a theory though

There were some "cosmological theological hypothesis" in the past, too, for example:

"...He believes that the present confusion in this world below began when the Presiding Angel of the globe of the earth, which was still a sun (that is, a star that was fixed and luminous of itself) committed a sin with some lesser angels of his department, perhaps rising inopportunely against an angel of a greater sun; that simultaneously, by the Pre-established Harmony of the Realms of Nature and of Grace, and consequently by natural causes occurring at the appointed time, our globe was covered with stains, rendered opaque and driven from its place; which has made it become a wandering star or planet, that is, a Satellite of another sun, and even perhaps of that one whose superiority its angel refused to recognize; and that therein consists the fall of Lucifer. Now the chief of the bad angels, who in Holy Scripture is named the prince, and even the god of this world, being, with the angels of his train, envious of that rational animal which walks on the surface of this globe, and which God has set up there perhaps to compensate himself for their fall, strives to render it accessary in their crimes and a participator in their misfortunes. Whereupon Jesus Christ came to save men. He is the eternal Son of God, even as he is his only Son; but (according to some ancient Christians, and according to the author of this hypothesis) having taken upon him at first, from the beginning of things, the most excellent nature among created beings, to bring them all to perfection, he set himself amongst them: and this is the second filiation, whereby he is the first-born of all creatures. This is he whom the Cabalists called Adam Kadmon. Haply he had planted his tabernacle in that great sun which illumines us; but he came at last into this globe where we are, he was born of the Virgin, and took human nature upon him to save mankind from the hands of their enemy and his. And when the time of judgement shall draw near, when the present face of our globe shall be about to perish, he will return to it in visible form, thence to withdraw the good, transplanting them, it may be, into the sun, and to punish here the wicked with the demons that have allured them; then the globe of the earth will begin to burn and will be perhaps a comet. This fire will last for aeons upon aeons. The tail of the comet is intended by the smoke which will rise incessantly, according to the Apocalypse, and this fire will be hell, or the second death whereof Holy Scripture speaks. But at last hell will render up its dead, death itself will be destroyed; reason and peace will begin to hold sway again in the spirits that had been perverted; they will be sensible of their error, they will adore their Creator, and will even begin to love him all the more for seeing the greatness of the abyss whence they emerge. Simultaneously (by virtue of the harmonic parallelism of the Realms of Nature and of Grace) this long and great conflagration will have purged the earth's globe of its stains. It will become again a sun; its Presiding Angel will resume his place with the angels of his train; humans that were damned shall be with them numbered amongst the good angels; this chief of our globe shall render homage to the Messiah, chief of created beings. The glory of this angel reconciled shall be greater than it was before his fall...

The vision seemed to me pleasing, and worthy of a follower of Origen: but we have no need of such hypothesis or fictions, where Wit plays a greater part than Revelation..."

The Project Gutenberg eBook of Theodicy, by G. W. Leibniz

 

[yeshuaslavejeff]

Hello again, you know they say the earth will be swallowed by our sun one day,

Since when did "they say" ever have any truth ? Unless tested and proven truth, we (Ekklesia) do not accept it.

 

[Ursus1985]

Since when did "they say" ever have any truth ? Unless tested and proven truth, we (Ekklesia) do not accept it.

Yes, I know, but so many people say it these days that our planet will be swallowed by our sun one day

 

[Halbhh]

Hello again, you know they say the earth will be swallowed by our sun one day, but when the sun gets bigger and less dense, our planet will be driven away from it not into it, they miscalculate the gravitation effect like they do with dark materie, they made up dark materie to fill in the gaps in their theory but it have never existed in the first place, and since we are moving very fast in space our planet will enter orbit around another sun one day, so life here on our planet is infinite should be because of this, because when enough energy and materie has entered a black hole it becomes a new sun again and that it how it goes, so life won`t end here on our planet, does god say anything about here on our planet being forever by the way?

In scripture we learn a New Heaven and a New Earth will be accomplished.

 

[trophy33]

In scripture we learn a New Heaven and a New Earth will be accomplished.

Their vocabulary was different. They did not mean planet and Universe, they meant land and sky.

 

[yeshuaslavejeff]

Yes, I know, but so many people say it these days that our planet will be swallowed by our sun one day

I never heard anyone say that, nor even refer to that.

Nor seen any reference to that , from any time, ever.

Where do these people you hear this from - "so many people" - live ?

 

[Ursus1985]

In scripture we learn a New Heaven and a New Earth will be accomplished.

Kinda interesting to read about, where do I find more of this perhaps if you know?

 

[yeshuaslavejeff]

does god say anything about here on our planet being forever by the way?

Yes.

Several times.

(sorry, no reference for now - read it in context and seek from Yahuweh Himself the meaning.)

 

[Ursus1985]

I never heard anyone say that, nor even refer to that.

Nor seen any reference to that , from any time, ever.

Where do these people you hear this from - "so many people" - live ?

Ah, perhaps it`s just norwegians

 

[yeshuaslavejeff]

Ah, perhaps it`s just norwegians

I wouldn't trust them then, if they say that.

For the new heavens and the new earth, and other true information that has never been wrong, read the Bible and ask the Author of all Life to grant understanding.

 

[trophy33]

I never heard anyone say that, nor even refer to that.
Nor seen any reference to that , from any time, ever.
Where do these people you hear this from - "so many people" - live ?

Ah, perhaps it`s just norwegians

No, its a standard scientific prediction:

" The most probable fate of the planet is absorption by the Sun in about 7.5 billion years, after the star has entered the red giant phase and expanded beyond the planet's current orbit."

Future of Earth - Wikipedia

 

[Halbhh]

Kinda interesting to read about, where do I find more of this perhaps if you know?

Isaiah chapters 65:17 and 66:22, and Revelation chapter 21.

 

[Halbhh]

No, its a standard scientific prediction:

" The most probable fate of the planet is absorption by the Sun in about 7.5 billion years, after the star has entered the red giant phase and expanded beyond the planet's current orbit."

Future of Earth - Wikipedia

Interestingly the oceans would evaporate in just 1 billion years from now...if the sun were allowed to take its natural course.

 

[Ursus1985]

No, its a standard scientific prediction:

" The most probable fate of the planet is absorption by the Sun in about 7.5 billion years, after the star has entered the red giant phase and expanded beyond the planet's current orbit."

Future of Earth - Wikipedia

Yeah, I think our planet will be pushed away instead because of lack of gravity

 

[Ursus1985]

Isaiah chapters 65:17 and 66:22, and Revelation chapter 21.

thanks, I will read them

 

[trophy33]

Yeah, I think our planet will be pushed away instead because of lack of gravity

Why would our sun lose its gravity?