I bet we can agree that racism is hurtful and wrong (Moved from American Politics)

[A_Thinker]

Apparently nobody here has been a victim of racism.

Is racism an actual problem? Is it made up? Are there racist people?

As a minority in the US Midwest, I experienced a situation where, after working in a position for nearly 10 years, to the satisfaction of all of my supervision and work-mates (I received above-average to excellent work reviews every year of 35 years of employment), I was rather inexplicably sidelined by a member of my management team.

The first signs were his "suggestions" that perhaps I needed to seek out a new position in the company. By the end of our 4-year association, he wouldn't even speak to me (when he wasn't being ovbserved) when we ran into each other at work. And that was hard because our work-areas were adjacent. The situation ended with his advancement and my being sidelined from continuing in the area of work where I was most comfortable and accomplished.

Due to the intervention of other members of management, my career was salvaged, but I never was able to achieve continuity in my preferred area of endeavor. And my employer was never able to find a suitable replacement for me in the role where I had enduring success for ultimately almost 15 years. They've struggled in this area to this day.

It was only years later that it was confided to me that this individual had attempted similar actions with other minority employees, sometimes suceeding, sometimes not. I survived, but there was a toll taken. I struggled with depression for a couple years after. I had a hard time believing that someone would target me that way.

 

[Rion]

how can christianity be a religion of peace when priests burned 40 000 women.

Interestingly enough, Christianity remained rather peaceful until the rise of another religion roughly 600 years later. I'm not saying that this religion was the sole cause of the "conversation by the sword " approach, but it was a major factor.

 

[mark kennedy]

Interestingly enough, Christianity remained rather peaceful until the rise of another religion roughly 600 years later. I'm not saying that this religion was the sole cause of the "conversation by the sword " approach, but it was a major factor.

Actually church history indicates the rise of the 'secular arm', was the impetus for that abuse. True Christian discipline is related to preaching in church and interfaith discipline, there is no imperative in the Scriptures for Christians to impose their faith, only share it.

 

[Rion]

Actually church history indicates the rise of the 'secular arm', was the impetus for that abuse. True Christian discipline is related to preaching in church and interfaith discipline, there is no imperative in the Scriptures for Christians to impose their faith, only share it.

Even after the secular arm, it was relatively violence free until the rise of Charlemagne and the Holy Roman Empire in the 800s.

 

[mark kennedy]

Constantine did his thing during the fourth century and the Roman Catholic church kind of assumed power over it's rivals just after 1000 AD. The Crusades and the Inquisition followed in the wake. Like all political power, it's when you have assumed control that the real dangers present themselves, especially when you are unassailable. The US is almost there and it has little to do with religion, it has everything to do with power and how you wield it.

Even after the secular arm, it was relatively violence free until the rise of Constantine and the Holy Roman Empire in the 800s.

Constantine lived in the 4th century dude, the church was probably 20% of the Roman Empire at that point. It was hundreds of years before abuses started to get pronounced, the purge of the Gnostic professing Christians not withstanding. The secular arm was not really that much a part of it early as it was later. After the strange transformation of the RCC at the turn of the Millennium is where I think the real problem presented itself.

 

[jovanovic]

Interestingly enough, Christianity remained rather peaceful until the rise of another religion roughly 600 years later. I'm not saying that this religion was the sole cause of the "conversation by the sword " approach, but it was a major factor.

not really. the apostles with the help of god did attack some kings with blindness, snakes and stuff.

and the copts did do alot of violence before the rise of constannine.

 

[Rion]

Constantine did his thing during the fourth century and the Roman Catholic church kind of assumed power over it's rivals just after 1000 AD. The Crusades and the Inquisition followed in the wake. Like all political power, it's when you have assumed control that the real dangers present themselves, especially when you are unassailable. The US is almost there and it has little to do with religion, it has everything to do with power and how you wield it.

I actually meant Charlemagne. Sorry, had a medical procedure done today and in a bit of pain, so I am not at the top of my game.

 

[Ana the Ist]

Do you agree that racism is hurtful and wrong?

Looks like out of the 25 votes....we all chose yes, it is hurtful and wrong.

So without reading....I'm wondering what all these pages are discussing. Is it the definition of racism itself?

 

[Ana the Ist]

I can't wait to see the semantics and "what do you mean by racism" mental gymnastics by some of the whites here.

What do you mean by semantics? Surely you're aware that there's a definition of racism....and there's a group of liberals trying to change that definition into something else? That's old news. It also means that asking what someone means by "racism" is a legitimate question.

 

[Rion]

What do you mean by semantics? Surely you're aware that there's a definition of racism....and there's a group of liberals trying to change that definition into something else? That's old news. It also means that asking what someone means by "racism" is a legitimate question.

*Progressives.

 

[PeachyKeane]

What do you mean by semantics? Surely you're aware that there's a definition of racism....and there's a group of liberals trying to change that definition into something else? That's old news. It also means that asking what someone means by "racism" is a legitimate question.

There are others trying to change it too. We get people who have said on here "I have no desire to do physical harm to blacks, therefore I'm not racist".

 

[USincognito]

What do you mean by semantics?

Oh the irony.

 

[Rion]

Oh the irony.

Why didn't you answer the rest of his post?

 

[Root of Jesse]

Asking for clarification is by no means "mental gymnastics". Some people use the actual definition of racism, others use the "SJW" definition of racism, and by that definition, anyone who asks for clarification on what racism is, is racist.

How come it's kosher to attack whites here? I feel I need to know if anyone has used phrases like "by some of the [] here" with any other race, and how well that went for them.

That's actually pretty racist to lump the 'whites' all into one mindset.

 

[Root of Jesse]

So how have you been hurt or wronged by racism?

I have been denied jobs because I am white and they were looking for a black person.

 

[Root of Jesse]

So, under the SJW definition, If a white person says "I hate [insert race here]" It's not racism? (unless one is discriminating based on race)

Hating someone because of their skin color (something they have no control over) is racist.

 

[PeachyKeane]

I have been denied jobs because I am white and they were looking for a black person.

Why were they looking for a black person?

 

[Root of Jesse]

Why were they looking for a black person?

How would I know? I was surprised they admitted it, and too young to see what was happening. They probably had an affirmative action thing going. Which is racism, in and of itself.

 

[PeachyKeane]

How would I know? I was surprised they admitted it, and too young to see what was happening. They probably had an affirmative action thing going. Which is racism, in and of itself.

But then the second time it happened, you didn't ask? What kind of jobs are these?

 

[Root of Jesse]

But then the second time it happened, you didn't ask? What kind of jobs are these?

Where did I say it happened a second time? Frankly, I want to work for people who want me to work for them, so I didn't really take offense. I moved on, and found another job, rather than whine about it.