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Discussion in 'Eschatology - Endtimes & Prophecy Forum' started by FutureAndAHope, May 26, 2019.

  1. Douggg

    Douggg anytime rapture, non-dispensationalist, futurist

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    Tranquil, no, the two horns being the two sticks is not what I believe.

    You must have mixed my view up with someone else's.

    I view the second beast in Revelation 13, as the false prophet, a person who will come from Israel.

    I think the person will claim to be Elijah, and will, unauthorized by God, anoint the prince who shall come as the King of Israel.

    The two horns like a lamb, in my opinion, is that he will be a religious person and not a politician.
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    What effect will the anointing of the Prince who shall come, following Gog/Magog, as the King of Israel have on Christianity?

    Huge, because it will be very convincing to many in Christianity as to the reasons Jews embrace the person as the messiah. One is their belief that messiah comes following Gog/Magog. Secondly, he will be a masterful politician. Thirdly, that it will appear that he intended to fight the battles of God - against Gog/Magog - in defending Israel.

    And don't forget there will be the false prophet active at that time.

    The result will be that many in Christianity will fall away, and no longer believe Jesus is the messiah, but the person who gets anointed the King of Israel (becoming the Antichrist) instead.

    It's going to be just like back in John's day in 1John, as there were many falling away from Christianity, which John called them the many antichrists, likening them to the coming Antichrist, who now is close at hand.

    But so is our redemption, of our bodies.
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    Do you know what else the Jews believe? They believe that once the "real" (in their words) messiah comes, it will be so apparent that the other religions will fade away. So the falling away in Christianity, in 2Thessalonians2, will appear to be a natural thing to the Jews.

    The Jews (Judaism) also believe that the messiah when he comes will effectively be the ruler of the world, that other nations will look to him.
     
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  2. Grip Docility

    Grip Docility Well-Known Member

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    The Scripture you just posted is awesome!

    The Revelation 3:9 quote is actually directly bound to "Turkey", which used to be the literal Capitol of the Ottoman Empire.

    I will confess... I had to really pray and study hard about this matter when I started to be exposed to it.

    The most difficult part of it all is Christianity is so broken by division and an ignorance to what essential doctrine really is... on many accounts... that people don't see what's coming.

    All positive understanding flows from knowing that Jesus is God (John 5:39)

    Semi-Arianism is infesting Trinitarian gatherings. Some Trinity Believers refuse to acknowledge that God the Son died on the cross. What many don't realize is that the Cross is the very place Jesus / God the Son... Placed His foot on the Serpents head.

    Youth today are afraid to say "Jesus is God"... that go to church on a regular basis, because the Trinity is taught with the (subordination) emphasized. The Unity of God isn't being taught any more and in fact can be considered Heresy to speak of in MANY Trinitarian Circles.

    The thing is... Islam fundamentally, not only OPENLY DENIES the Trinity, but it also Denies that Jesus is God, The Son of God and that He died on the Cross.

    If this isn't Satans personal work, I don't know what else is. Beheading??? Yeah... a new video is posted extremely frequently from people deceived by Ismael's people.

    The churches failure to educate the youth in essential doctrine's like "Faith Alone" / "Jesus is God" / ""God the Son" died on the cross out of Love for humanity"" / "The Importance of Professing Jesus Is Lord" and all the like is going to cause many youth to not only reject God, but furthermore... possibly think Islam is a happy religious alternative.

    As for Texas... well, yeah... Texas isn't exactly laying down to the idea that Islam is peaceful.

    I Love Muslims, as they are human beings! I do not Love Islam.

    The Church is so wrapped up in Western Eschatology, it doesn't see the MULTITUDE of the Beast that all gather under the same Crescent Moon and Star.

    This is all my mere opinion... but... yeah.... it's sobering!

    Mecca is the epicenter of Saudi Arabia... which is in my opinion the true Whore. There I said it.

    Mecca is where the religion of Islam flows from and it is the place all Muslims are supposed to make the Hodge to.

    Anyhow... while people have their magical Prophecy dice out and are calculating complex years and numbers, while trying to claim they have "figured out" biblical symbolism... enough to identify where the beast is...

    The Literal Geographic Nations that make up the 4 beasts of Daniel, plus the two that ruled over Israel before the Exodus (Egypt and Assyria) are all joined to a FALSE RELIGION that is nothing like Father Abraham's, and is in reverence of a false Prophet named.... ahhhhh all someone has to do is look up what this words means... "Shahada".
     
  3. Grip Docility

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    LLoJ,

    Do I then now understand that you read my last spoiler, understood and agreed with it?
     
  4. LittleLambofJesus

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    I try to get along with all religions and non-religions and to follow the path that Jesus leads me........From Genesis to Revelation is all about God redeeming man to Himself and Life.

    Isaiah 60:1
    Arise thou! shine thou! that thy Light came, and Glory of Yahweh on thee is radiant.
    2 That behold!, the darkness shall cover Land, and gross-darkness peoples, and over thee Yahweh shall be radiant and His Glory over thee shall be seen.
    3 And Nations go to Thy light, and Kings to brightness of thy rising/radiance.

    Matthew 4:16 The people, the one-sitting in darkness perceived a Light, great.
    And/also to-the ones-sitting in part and shadow of death, a Light springs-up to-them

    Matthew 5:16 so let your light shine before men, that they may see your good works, and may glorify your Father who is in the heavens.

    John 1:3 All-things thru Him became and apart-from Him became<1096> not-yet one-thing which has become/gegonen <1096> (5754).
    4 In Him life was, and the Life was the Light of the men.

    1 Peter 2:12
    Conduct yourselves with such honor
    among the Gentiles/Nations that, though they slander you as evildoers, they may see your good deeds and glorify God on the day He visits us.

     
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  5. Marilyn C

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    Hi tranquil,

    I agree that the man of sin will be the Assyrian/king of the North. Now the false prophet (to the world) with the 2 horns, (2 offices of power, not crowned, so not political) has the 2 offices of the Economic, (buy & sell) and the Religious, (image of the beast worship).

    Marilyn.
     
  6. Marilyn C

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    Hi LittleLambofJesus,

    Remember that the man of sin, the A/C overcomes with a deceitful peace.

    `...he shall come in peaceably, and seize the kingdom by intrigue.` (Dan. 11: 21)

    Marilyn.
     
  7. Seville90210

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    Douggg, all you've posted are a bunch of theories and speculation with none of those verses you listed proving a false Jewish Messiah.

    Let me ask you this question Douggg. Have you by chance tested the voices you were hearing during those times you tried to figure out who the Jewish Messiah is?

    Try this one. In Daniel 9:26, it says the people of the prince to come will destroy the temple and the city.

    Daniel 9:26 NKJV
    26 "And after the sixty-two weeks Messiah shall be cut off, but not for Himself; And the people of the prince who is to come Shall destroy the city and the sanctuary. The end of it shall be with a flood, And till the end of the war desolations are determined.

    The people that destroyed Jerusalem and the 2nd temple were gentiles, not Jews. This verse makes it very hard to prove your false Messiah to be Jewish, or a Jewish a/c.

    Douggg, do you know the voices you were listening to is the same voice talking to Muslims about their false Messiah they call the Dajjal?

    The Quran also teaches Muslims that a Jewish false messiah will rule from Jerusalem. Goto the 4:28 mark of this video and start listening from there.



    Douggg, do you know who the Muslim Dajjal is in the Quran? It's Jesus Christ, the Son of God, the guy who died on the cross for us all.



    Definitions:

    The Dajjal is Islam’s Antichrist figure. According to Islam, the Dajjal will return and claim to be Jesus Christ. He’ll claim to be divine and He’ll fight for Israel. The Dajjal is actually the biblical Jesus Christ who returns as the King of kings. When the video refers to the Dajjal, or the Antichrist, it is really referring to the biblical Jesus Christ.


    Islamic Teaching on the Final Battle Between Christ and the Antichrist


    LOOK WHO MUSLIMS PROMOTE AS 'ANTICHRIST'

    Guess who is being promoted as the “Antichrist” in a new 52-part video documentary making the rounds on YouTube?

    The Islamic production company responsible makes the case that the endtimes global leader, also known as “the Beast of Revelation,” will actually be the Christian and Jewish Messiah.


    Look who Muslims promote as 'Antichrist' - WND - WND


    So Douggg, have you tested the spirit? Do you know who you're really calling the a/c. In case you didn't know, you're promoting Islamic eschatology. I have evidences directly from the bible that proves your theories are wrong.




    By the way, this speaker is correct. At the 1:00 mark, he said the Messiah will rebuild the temple and bring back all the exiles of Israel. It's right here in the bible.

    Zechariah 8:3-9 NKJV
    3 "Thus says the Lord: 'I will return to Zion, And dwell in the midst of Jerusalem. Jerusalem shall be called the City of Truth, The Mountain of the Lord of hosts, The Holy Mountain.'
    4"Thus says the Lord of hosts: 'Old men and old women shall again sit In the streets of Jerusalem, Each one with his staff in his hand Because of great age.
    5 The streets of the city Shall be full of boys and girls Playing in its streets.'
    6 "Thus says the Lord of hosts: 'If it is marvelous in the eyes of the remnant of this people in these days, Will it also be marvelous in My eyes?' Says the Lord of hosts.
    7 "Thus says the Lord of hosts: 'Behold, I will save My people from the land of the east And from the land of the west;
    8 I will bring them back, And they shall dwell in the midst of Jerusalem.
    They shall be My people And I will be their God, In truth and righteousness.'
    9 "Thus says the Lord of hosts: 'Let your hands be strong, You who have been hearing in these days These words by the mouth of the prophets, Who spoke in the day the foundation was laid For the house of the Lord of hosts, That the temple might be built.

    Zechariah 6:12-13 NKJV
    12 Then speak to him, saying, 'Thus says the Lord of hosts, saying: "Behold, the Man whose name is the BRANCH! From His place He shall branch out, And He shall build the temple of the Lord;
    13 Yes, He shall build the temple of the Lord. He shall bear the glory, And shall sit and rule on His throne; So He shall be a priest on His throne, And the counsel of peace shall be between them both." '
     
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  8. tranquil

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    I'm not sure what your point is about the false prophet. He is not merely a figurehead, he is a king unto himself
    Rev 13
    11 Then I saw a second beast, coming out of the earth. It had two horns like a lamb, but it spoke like a dragon. 12 It exercised all the authority of the first beast on its behalf, and made the earth and its inhabitants worship the first beast, whose fatal wound had been healed.​

    they are 'co-rulers' because that is the only way to get around the Deuteronomy curse of being ruled by your enemies and still have the appearance of autonomy as if one is receiving the blessings of being faithful (the faithful are ruled by one of their own, the unfaithful are ruled by their enemies). In other words, there could be no 'deception that could deceive the elect' - if one just went by the Deuteronomy blessings & curses it would be glaringly obvious if one was being unfaithful or not: were you being ruled by your enemy? If not, then you were faithful. Presumably, this 'peace agreement'/ the '7 year covenant' is the basis for this power arrangement.

    Ezekiel 37
    11Then he said to me, “Son of man, these bones are the whole house of Israel. Behold, they say, ‘Our bones are dried up, and our hope is lost; we are indeed cut off.’ 12Therefore prophesy, and say to them, Thus says the Lord God: Behold, I will open your graves and raise you from your graves, O my people. And I will bring you into the land of Israel. 13And you shall know that I am the Lord, when I open your graves, and raise you from your graves, O my people.

    14And I will put my Spirit within you, and you shall live, and I will place you in your own land. Then you shall know that I am the Lord; I have spoken, and I will do it, declares the Lord.”
    15The word of the Lord came to me: 16“Son of man, take a stick and write on it, ‘For Judah, and the people of Israel associated with him’; then take another stick and write on it, ‘For Joseph (the stick of Ephraim) and all the house of Israel associated with him.’ 17And join them one to another into one stick, that they may become one in your hand. 18And when your people say to you, ‘Will you not tell us what you mean by these?’

    19say to them, Thus says the Lord God: Behold, I am about to take the stick of Joseph (that is in the hand of Ephraim) and the tribes of Israel associated with him. And I will join with it the stick of Judah, and make them one stick, that they may be one in my hand.

    20When the sticks on which you write are in your hand before their eyes, 21then say to them, Thus says the Lord God: Behold, I will take the people of Israel from the nations among which they have gone, and will gather them from all around, and bring them to their own land.

    22And I will make them one nation in the land, on the mountains of Israel. And one king shall be king over them all, and they shall be no longer two nations, and no longer divided into two kingdoms.

    23They shall not defile themselves anymore with their idols and their detestable things, or with any of their transgressions. But I will save them from all the backslidings in which they have sinned, and will cleanse them; and they shall be my people, and I will be their God.

    24“My servant David shall be king over them, and they shall all have one shepherd. They shall walk in my rules and be careful to obey my statutes. 25They shall dwell in the land that I gave to my servant Jacob, where your fathers lived. They and their children and their children’s children shall dwell there forever, and David my servant shall be their prince forever.

    26I will make a covenant of peace with them. It shall be an everlasting covenant with them. And I will set them in their land and multiply them, and will set my sanctuary in their midst forevermore. 27My dwelling place shall be with them, and I will be their God, and they shall be my people.

    28Then the nations will know that I am the Lord who sanctifies Israel, when my sanctuary is in their midst forevermore.”​

    The resurrection of the dead, being gathered, 2 nations becoming 1 nation, previous abomination idol, peace covenant, building the temple... sounds like a certain chapter of the Bible....

    a superficial & literal understanding of this passage would be: the messiah king of modern nation-state Israel would be the 1 stick king uniting the 2 ancient nations of Samaria & Judah who arrives during a zombie apocalypse that was caused by the messiah himself unleashing an ebola/ rabies virus epidemic. The '1 stick' messiah king of nation-state Israel then gathers the staggering survivors & makes a peace covenant with nation-state Israel that allows their temple to be built.

    Sounds about right! ^_^
     
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  9. Douggg

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    I haven't heard any voices. Are you hearing voices?
    Okay, what you are trying to do is support your belief that the mulsim Mahdi will be the Antichrist. And my explanation of the Antichrist makes the theory you hold not possible. So you are accusing me of hearing voices - rather than deal will the actual verses in the bible that defines the concept of the Antichrist being the King of Israel, but not authorized by God, acting instead of and against the rightful King of Israel - Jesus.

    The person who becomes the Antichrist comes from those people, the Romans, the fourth kingdom in Daniel 7. He will be both the King of the Roman Empire end times. And also for a while the King of Israel.

    Are you aware to be a Jew, in Judaism, it is by the mother that a person is a Jew? The father can actually be a gentile.

    The person who becomes the Antichrist will have a Jewish mother and also be descended from the Caesar family and also be descended from Jesse, David's father.

    I have listened to a lot of that particular speaker's video's over the years. The muslims have some weird notions about the Antichrist (which they call the dajaal) - like he will be riding a large white mule and travels at incredible speed across the middle east and will have a mangled arm and have one eye, and have "Kafir" on his forehead, and if a person looks at him, they will become one of his followers.

    Their ideas have nothing to do with what I have written in my post. And the muslim concepts have nothing to do with the actual end times bible prophecies. Islam will suffer a permanent blow when Gog/Magog takes place.

    The actual Antichrist does not confirm the Daniel 9:27 covenant for 7 years until after Gog/Magog.

    You need to do some more research about the dajaal what the muslim believe about him, having one eye, a withered up arm, and "kafir" written in his forhead. Does any of that describe Jesus at His glorious return?

    What I want to hear from you is who in the bible fits the description of the muslim dajaal - that appearance?
     
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  10. tranquil

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    Yes, 'Isa'/ Muslim Jesus is very important. But whether you place your loyalty to Zionists or Islam is a false dichotomy. When 'Isa' / Jesus comes back (in whatever form that means), the Islam issue will be irrelevant - Muslims view Jesus as the Messiah. Jesus is the one who legitimizes the rule of Mahdi. It all goes back to the idea of prophet & king:
    • Joshua (same as 'Jesus' in Hebrew) & Zerubabbel/ (same 2 as 2 witnesses)
    • Isa (Jesus) & Mahdi//
    • beast from the earth & beast from the sea
    • king of the south & king of the north (modern terms: the leaders of the Illuminati & the United Nations, respectively)

    When Muslims say that Jesus didn't really die, the upshot to this is that Jesus is said to have gone on to have children. So the eschatological 'Jesus' means the descendant of Jesus/ bloodline Jesus and by extension, bloodline to king David. In modern terms, Prince Harry fits the description of the Muslim messiah/ bloodline Jesus.

    In other words, worry about the deception, not Muslims, because they will be falling in line with all the other deceived.
     
  11. Douggg

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    None of the muslim end times characters, as they describe them, will materialize.

    The little horn will be a Jew, leader of the EU. He will come to power in part because there has been antimuslim sentiment building in Europe because of the open door immigration that the EU leaders have allowed, which those immigrant muslims have created problems for the native Europeans.

    The end of Islam will come with Gog/Magog before the 7 years begin.

    The little horn person, after Gog/Magog, as the prince who shall come, will confirm the Mt Sinai covenant, beginning the 7 years.

    3 year later, he will reveal himself as the man of sin claiming to be God.

    Will be killed for it and brought back to life as the beast for the last 42 months.

    Jesus returns at the end of the 42 months and destroys the beast.
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    There is no muslim concept dajaal figure in the bible. Islam itself will not be around during the reign of the Antichrist, nor after the person has become the beast.

    The Antichrist - is not the muslim Mahdi
    The Beast - is not the muslim Mahdi
    The false prophet - is not the muslim Isa
    Jesus at his return - is not the muslim dajaal.

    Nothing about the muslim end times concepts matches with the actual concepts in the Bible.

    The only thing about the muslim factor is that it a religion begun by Satan. It lies about Jesus and just about everything else. It has done evil and violence. It is a factor as the common religion of all the nations, except Russia, that make up the Gog/Magog invaders. When it gets destroyed at the Gog/Magog event, the rest of the world will not shed a tear over Islam's demise.

    Unfortunately the Jews, and most of the rest of the world, will then think they are on the doorstep of the messianic age of peace and safety - and the prince who shall come will be perceived by the Jews as their messiah.
     
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  12. Seville90210

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    Everyone hears the voices in their head, even atheists, but most people including many Christians aren't aware of it. Your job as a true follower of Christ is to obey that voice that leads you to do righteousness. Everyone gets to decide what they want to do and who they want to follow. You either follow righteousness or follow sin. Each will be judged and ultimately be with whom he/she choices as their Father.

    John 8:44 NKJV
    You are of your father the devil, and the desires of your father you want to do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and does not stand in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaks a lie, he speaks from his own resources, for he is a liar and the father of it.

    The bible is 1/3 prophetic. When a person attempts to rewrite prophecy, it's no different than trying to change the gospel. People need to be aware of this.


    No, that's not what I said and it's not what I posted. One thing about talking with you I've noticed is I usually have to repeat the things I wrote a second before it begins to sink in......a little. Again, read Daniel 9:26.

    Daniel 9:26 NKJV
    26 "And after the sixty-two weeks Messiah shall be cut off, but not for Himself; And the people of the prince who is to come Shall destroy the city and the sanctuary. The end of it shall be with a flood, And till the end of the war desolations are determined.

    The people of the pronce to come that destroyed Jerusalem and the temple during 70 ad were gentiles, not Jews. This means the prince to come who will be the a/c can only be a gentile. Daniel 9:26 makes it impossible for the antichrist Jewish. The only way your theory can work around this passage is by rewriting all the history books to say the Jews were the ones that destroyed Jerusalem and the 2nd temple in 70ad.





    The people of the prince to come are ancestors of modern day Arab Muslims living in the Middle East, not the Italians. Rome during the time of the first century was divided into two divisions, the Western Empire that employed Italians soldiers while the Eastern Empire (Byzantine) soldiers were of Arab ancestry employing people from Turkey and it's surrounding areas in the Middle East. The Eastern empire had it's capital located in Constantinople which is located in Turkey and later became the known as Istanbul, the Capital of Turkey until 1923.

    The roman soldiers that destroyed Jerusalem and the temple were Arabs from the Eastern Empire. In other words, Daniel 9:26 is more evidence the a/c is a Muslim, specifically from Turkey.



    Some other people need to do some homework on the history of Rome. Whenever I see people promoting the idea of the a/c coming out of a revive Roman Empire from Europe, I just get face palm reactions with rolled eyes.


    ROFL!!!

    Too funny. Good one Douggg but no cigar.


    Oh my goodness! More laughs! Please do some history homework on Ancient Rome Douggg and not listen to those promoting a revive Roman Empire theory. It's like the blind following the blind.


    We already went over this several months ago the last time we argued about who the a/c is and I posted links to websites about it. And I'll say again, this is something I've already known for a awhile. How soon you forget.


    It's not weird Douggg, how long will it take for you to figure out the Muslim's false Messiah - the Dajjal - is Jesus Christ, the Son of God? Who is the only person in the bible that's mentioned seen in the sky whether riding a white horse (mule) or coming on cloud(s)? Certainly not the antichrist.

    Zechariah 9:14 NKJV
    Then the Lord will be seen over them,
    And His arrow will go forth like lightning. The Lord God will blow the trumpet, And go with whirlwinds from the south.

    Revelation 19:11 NKJV
    Now I saw heaven opened, and behold, a white horse. And He who sat on him was called Faithful and True, and in righteousness He judges and makes war.

    Revelation 1:7 NKJV
    Behold, He is coming with clouds, and every eye will see Him, even they who pierced Him. And all the tribes of the earth will mourn because of Him. Even so, Amen.

    Revelation 14:14 NKJV
    Then I looked, and behold, a white cloud, and on the cloud sat One like the Son of Man, having on His head a golden crown, and in His hand a sharp sickle.

    Goto the 1:00-1:35 mark



    Douggg, why does the quran depict only the Dajjal and the bible depicting only Jesus as the individual flying across the sky and no one else?

    Why does the Mahdi or the biblical antichrist unable to fly?


    Islamic Teaching on the Final Battle Between Christ and the Antichrist

    Definitions:

    The Dajjal is Islam’s Antichrist figure. According to Islam, the Dajjal will return and claim to be Jesus Christ. He’ll claim to be divine and He’ll fight for Israel. The Dajjal is actually the biblical Jesus Christ who returns as the King of kings. When the video refers to the Dajjal, or the Antichrist, it is really referring to the biblical Jesus Christ.



    Why do I need to do more research on the Dajjal when you're the one with the misspelling. Are you sure you know more about this than me?

    It's spelled Dajjal with two jj's, not dajaal. Between posts #109 and #111, you misspelled Dajjal at least 10 times.

    Al-Masih ad-Dajjal - Wikipedia



    Goto the 5:16-6:50 mark.

    The Dajjal in Muslim prophecy is the only one that can cause the earth to rain whenever and where He wants. Sound familiar? Who causes the rain mentioned below? Certainly not the antichrist or the false prophet. Jesus in the bible is the only One depicted as the rainmaker.

    Zechariah 14:17-18 NKJV
    17 And it shall be that whichever of the families of the earth do not come up to Jerusalem to worship the King, the Lord of hosts, on them there will be no rain.
    18 If the family of Egypt will not come up and enter in, they shall have no rain; they shall receive the plague with which the Lord strikes the nations who do not come up to keep the Feast of Tabernacles.

    Hosea 6:3 NKJV
    Let us know, Let us pursue the knowledge of the Lord. His going forth is established as the morning; He will come to us like the rain, Like the latter and former rain to the earth.

    Amos 4:7 NKJV
    "I also withheld rain from you,
    When there were still three months to the harvest. I made it rain on one city, I withheld rain from another city. One part was rained upon, And where it did not rain the part withered.

    Zechariah 10:1 NKJV
    Ask the Lord for rain In the time of the latter rain. The Lord will make flashing clouds; He will give them showers of rain, Grass in the field for everyone.

    Douggg, why does the quran depict only the Dajjal and the bible depicting only Jesus as the individual capable of bringing rain on earth wherever He wants?

    Why can't the Mahdi or the biblical antichrist bring rain?


    Islamic Teaching on the Final Battle Between Christ and the Antichrist

    Definitions:

    The Dajjal is Islam’s Antichrist figure. According to Islam, the Dajjal will return and claim to be Jesus Christ. He’ll claim to be divine and He’ll fight for Israel. The Dajjal is actually the biblical Jesus Christ who returns as the King of kings. When the video refers to the Dajjal, or the Antichrist, it is really referring to the biblical Jesus Christ.


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    As far as the appearance, where in the bible does it describes what Jesus physically looks like? Can you describe what Jesus looks like in the bible? If you can't why do you expect me to do so?

    Can you logically figure out why satan had Muhammad give a detail description of the Dajjal? #1 satan was there when Christ died on the cross and saw His physical appearance when He was badly beaten and tortured to death. Satan has been on earth observing mankind since the Garden of Eden #2 maybe Jesus will appear to the Muslims as He looked deformed while dying on the cross so they'll believe the lie and make war against Him?

    2 Thessalonian 2:10-11 NKJV
    10 and with all unrighteous deception among those who perish, because they did not receive the love of the truth, that they might be saved.
    11 And for this reason God will send them strong delusion, that they should believe the lie,

    Revelation 19:19 NKJV
    And I saw the beast, the kings of the earth, and their armies, gathered together to make war against Him who sat on the horse and against His army.
     
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    Seville90210 Psalm 118:26

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    We are Douggg, on the doorstep of that time. You're just not very educated with bible prophecy. It's in the bible if you know where to look and understand it.

    And the Jews will crown Jesus, the Son of God who died on the cross as their Messiah and King. They will select the right Person. This IS ALSO in the bible.
     
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  14. Douggg

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    You did not quote a verse.

    God is the one who crowns Jesus as King of Israel. Samuel, the prophet acting on instructions from God anointed Saul and David as King of Israel. Nathan the prophet anointed Solomon.

    In Psalms 2...

    6 Yet have I set my king upon my holy hill of Zion.

    7 I will declare the decree: the LORD hath said unto me, Thou art my Son; this day have I begotten thee.
     
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  15. Douggg

    Douggg anytime rapture, non-dispensationalist, futurist

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    How is copying and pasting verses from the bible attempting to rewrite prophecy?
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    You posted why you think the Antichrist will be the Mahdi. And I have explained to you why that theory can't work. Because the Antichrist has to be someone instead of and against Jesus the rightful King of Israel. A muslim does not fit.



    The fourth kingdom in Daniel 7 and in Daniel 2 is the Roman Empire. To be a Jew, a person does not have to be born in Israel. The issue is what is the Roman Empire in the end times. It is the EU.

    Of the 7 kings in Revelation 17:10, those are Roman Empire kings. They are not Arab kings. Islam did not exist back then. Five of the kings had fallen.

    Jesus is not going to have an eye missing. Look at verse 14 below.

    He is not going to have a shriveled up arm. As the muslim dajaal is supposed to have. You are the one claiming the dajaal is really Jesus. It is up to you to produce verses that support your assertion.

    Revelation 1:13 And in the midst of the seven candlesticks one like unto the Son of man, clothed with a garment down to the foot, and girt about the paps with a golden girdle.

    14 His head and his hairs were white like wool, as white as snow; and his eyes were as a flame of fire;

    15 And his feet like unto fine brass, as if they burned in a furnace; and his voice as the sound of many waters.

    16 And he had in his right hand seven stars: and out of his mouth went a sharp twoedged sword: and his countenance was as the sun shineth in his strength.

    17 And when I saw him, I fell at his feet as dead. And he laid his right hand upon me, saying unto me, Fear not; I am the first and the last:

    18 I am he that liveth, and was dead; and, behold, I am alive for evermore, Amen; and have the keys of hell and of death.
     
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  16. Douggg

    Douggg anytime rapture, non-dispensationalist, futurist

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    Who do you think the one riding the white horse in Revelation 6 is? It is the person who becomes the Antichrist.
     
  17. Douggg

    Douggg anytime rapture, non-dispensationalist, futurist

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    You are posting to me videos of what I have been saying repeatedly about popular end times commentators - that they all make the same mistake?

    They all misuse the term Antichrist - by applying it in the broad sense to what is better described as the arch villain of the end times. The person is the Antichrist only while he is in the position of being the King of Israel.

    The other times, he is the King of the Roman Empire end times. The two commentators in the those videos have not figured it out yet. The person will be the leader of the Roman Empire end times (as the little horn and beast) and the King of Israel (as the Antichrist) for awhile.

    From Mark 15:32 - "Christ the King of Israel". To understand the Antichrist concept, add Anti - "AntiChrist the King of Israel"

    The first commentator says the person is to be from the people who destroyed the temple and city - the Romans. The mistake he makes is not considering that there are Jews all around the world, in different countries.

    Look at my chart. On the right side is the person as the King of the Roman Empire. On the left side is the person as the King of Israel - for a while.

    oops, I am having difficulties in adding my chart.
     
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  19. Ronald

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    There is a clear distinction between the 12 tribes of Israel ( the physical bloodline) in Rev. 7 and Rom. 11 and the CHURCH. A remnant Jewish population will be saved and be part of the Church/Body of Christ. The 144k are specifically virgin males from the bloodline of the 12 tribes. Each tribe is identified. This is not symbolism, when specific names are mentioned. And don't think they are lost or forgotten _ God knows who they are - He ordained these prophecies to literally be fulfilled.
    By claiming the woman in Rev. 12 is the Church, you are saying the Church gave birth to Christ - wrong.
    Your theology actually sounds like a denomination I've heard of called "Israel of God". They are legalists, stuck in the Law, trying to keep Sabbaths, celebrating feasts in OT as if they were Jews. Do you attend this church? If you live by the Law, you will be judged by the law.
     
  20. keras

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    No I do not and as I live in New Zealand, they are not here.
    You deny NT truths to reject the fact of how the Church is now the Israel of God, the Overcomers for God. As Jacob was and as we Christians are, as seen in each of the 7 Church's of Revelation.
    The Jews face Judgment and punishment and only a remnant will survive. Romans 9:27

    God does know who the true Israelites are; Amos 9:9 they are the ones Jesus came to save, Matthew 15:24, and He was successful; we Western Christians are the proof.
     
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