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I AM vs De-AM

Discussion in 'Controversial Christian Theology' started by goodnewsinc, May 1, 2011.

  1. goodnewsinc

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    I AM vs De AM

    “I Am that I Am” is the name God used when He introduced Himself to Moses.

    Exodus 3:14 And God said unto Moses, I AM THAT I AM: and he said, Thus shalt thou say unto the children of Israel, I AM hath sent me unto you.

    This name means “I exist” and “I live”.

    Deuteronomy 32:39 See now that I, even I, am he, and there is no god with me: I kill, and I make alive; I wound, and I heal: neither is there any that can deliver out of my hand. 40 For I lift up my hand to heaven, and say, I live for ever.

    Isaiah 45:6 That they may know from the rising of the sun, and from the west, that there is none beside me. I am the LORD, and there is none else. 7 I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the LORD do all these things.

    Colossians 1:17 And he is before all things, and by him all things consist.

    Acts 17:28 For in him we live, and move, and have our being; as certain also of your own poets have said, For we are also his offspring.

    2 Corinthians 6:16 And what agreement hath the temple of God with idols? for ye are the temple of the living God; as God hath said, I will dwell in them, and walk in them; and I will be their God, and they shall be my people.

    Psalm 82:6 I have said, Ye are gods; and all of you are children of the most High.

    God has a second Body of Life contained in individual “cells” shaped with a head, torso, arms with hands, and legs with feet. First He made a female companion and counter-part, El Shaddai. With these cells He shares His sensory perception to make them sentient beings. He calls El Shaddai His Wife, and the other cells they made together after their likeness are children who inherently share their Spirit-DNA. Together all these are One.

    John 17:22 And the glory which thou gavest me I have given them; that they may be one, even as we are one: 23 I in them, and thou in me, that they may be made perfect in one; and that the world may know that thou hast sent me, and hast loved them, as thou hast loved me. 24 Father, I will that they also, whom thou hast given me, be with me where I am; that they may behold my glory, which thou hast given me: for thou lovedst me before the foundation of the world.


    De- AM

    De- Latin = down, from, and away

    Webster’s New Collegiate Dictionary

    We already looked at the meaning of AM. When we add De- with AM we get D(e)AM or DAMN meaning “down, from and away” from those who EXIST and have LIFE.

    There is a family of demonic parasites who exist in and on the bodies of God’s living “cells”. Their parents were originally cast down from Heaven to the bottomless pit-prison of hell where the Earth orbits the sun. These must be taken away from the family of God before they return home to Heaven. Thus DAMNATION is a term that refers to the Kingdom of Darkness as God continues to separate (the children of) light from darkness. So the kingdom of devils, kingdom of the damned, and children of darkness are all references for the family of Lucifer and Babylon. They are the kingdom of the damned which must be removed from the children of God. Only the accursed invisible children of Lucifer and Babylon have inherent damnation.

    Matthew 13:24 Another parable put he forth unto them, saying, The kingdom of heaven is likened unto a man which sowed good seed in his field: 25 But while men slept, his enemy came and sowed tares among the wheat, and went his way. 26 But when the blade was sprung up, and brought forth fruit, then appeared the tares also. 27 So the servants of the householder came and said unto him, Sir, didst not thou sow good seed in thy field? from whence then hath it tares? 28 He said unto them, An enemy hath done this. The servants said unto him, Wilt thou then that we go and gather them up? 29 But he said, Nay; lest while ye gather up the tares, ye root up also the wheat with them. 30 Let both grow together until the harvest: and in the time of harvest I will say to the reapers, Gather ye together first the tares, and bind them in bundles to burn them: but gather the wheat into my barn.

    Matthew 23:33 Ye serpents, ye generation of vipers, how can ye escape the damnation of hell?

    Matthew 25:41 Then shall he say also unto them on the left hand, Depart from me, ye cursed, into everlasting fire, prepared for the devil and his angels:


    2 Thessalonians 2:7 For the mystery of iniquity doth already work: only he who now letteth will let, until he be taken out of the way. 8 And then shall that Wicked be revealed, whom the Lord shall consume with the spirit of his mouth, and shall destroy with the brightness of his coming: 9 Even him, whose coming is after the working of Satan with all power and signs and lying wonders, 10 And with all deceivableness of unrighteousness in them that perish; because they received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved.

    Isaiah 14:12 How art thou fallen from heaven, O Lucifer, son of the morning! [how] art thou cut down to the ground, which didst weaken the nations! 21 Prepare slaughter for his children for the iniquity of their fathers; that they do not rise, nor possess the land, nor fill the face of the world with cities. 22 For I will rise up against them, saith the LORD of hosts, and cut off from Babylon the name, and remnant, and son, and nephew, saith the LORD.

    Revelation 18:6 Reward her even as she rewarded you, and double unto her double according to her works: in the cup which she hath filled fill to her double. 8 Therefore shall her plagues come in one day, death, and mourning, and famine; and she shall be utterly burned with fire: for strong is the Lord God who judgeth her. 9 And the kings of the earth, who have committed fornication and lived deliciously with her, shall bewail her, and lament for her, when they shall see the smoke of her burning,

    Revelation 19:20 And the beast was taken, and with him the false prophet that wrought miracles before him, with which he deceived them that had received the mark of the beast, and them that worshipped his image. These both were cast alive into a lake of fire burning with brimstone.

    So we see the DAMNED NATION is the family of invisible demonic tares which the reaping angels leave behind in the pit of hell when they remove each human spirit child from the earth and bring it to stand before the Father.

    Isaiah 66:18 For I know their works and their thoughts: it shall come, that I will gather all nations and tongues; and they shall come, and see my glory.21 And I will also take of them for priests [and] for Levites, saith the LORD. 22 For as the new heavens and the new earth, which I will make, shall remain before me, saith the LORD, so shall your seed and your name remain. 23 And it shall come to pass, that from one new moon to another, and from one sabbath to another, shall all flesh come to worship before me, saith the LORD.

    Psalm 22:28 For the kingdom is the LORD'S: and he is the governor among the nations. 29 All they that be fat upon earth shall eat and worship: all they that go down to the dust shall bow before him: and none can keep alive his own soul. 30 A seed shall serve him; it shall be accounted to the Lord for a generation. 31 They shall come, and shall declare his righteousness unto a people that shall be born, that he hath done this.

    Glorify God!
    God did it! :amen::thumbsup::clap:
     
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  2. eachallberg

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    I didnt knowthe etymology on the word "damn".
    Thanks for the knowledge.
    Learn something new everyday...
     
    Last edited: May 4, 2011
  3. thesunisout

    thesunisout growing in grace Supporter

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    Okay, this is completely bizzare. Where are you getting this from because it's not in the bible.

    This sounds like scientology. This much I can tell you. Someone who is saved and has the Holy Spirit dwelling within them cannot be demon possessed. Period.


    Satan is damned because he has already been judged.
     
  4. Bernie02

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    As I've noted in the past, John, I think you have many of the pcs of the puzzle...when you figure out why Jesus called Peter "Satan" and accept the truth of the horrible thing, which 98% of Christianity can't accept or bear to look in the eye, you'll just about be there....
     
  5. eachallberg

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    What is the truth of this horrible thing? Maybe we can change that percentage.
     
  6. cubinity

    cubinity jesus is; the rest is commentary.

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    The percentage isn't all that hard to change.
    Here's the secret...
    When you are making up a statistic, and you think maybe the percentage is too high, all you have to do is imagine a lower number, and kazaam, the percentage is lower.
    Amazing, huh? ;)
     
  7. Mark51

    Mark51 Newbie Supporter

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    Exodus 3:13-16 and 6:3 are often misapplied to mean that Jehovah’s name was first revealed to Moses sometime prior to the Exodus from Egypt. True, Moses raised the question: “Suppose I am now come to the sons of Israel and I do say to them, ‘The God of your forefathers has sent me to you,’ and they do say to me, ‘What is his name?’ What shall I say to them?” But this does not mean that he or the Israelites did not know Jehovah’s name. The very name of Moses’ mother Jochebed means, possibly, “Jehovah Is Glory.” (Exodus 6:20) Moses’ question likely was related to the circumstances in which the sons of Israel found themselves. They had been in hard slavery for many decades with no sign of any relief. Doubt, discouragement, and weakness of faith in God’s power and purpose to deliver them had very likely infiltrated their ranks. (Note also Ezekiel 20:7,[bless and do not curse]8.) For Moses simply to say he came in the name of “God” (ʼElo·him′) or the “Sovereign Lord” (ʼAdho·nai′) therefore might not have meant much to the suffering Israelites. They knew the Egyptians had their own gods and lords and doubtless heard taunts from the Egyptians that their gods were superior to the God of the Israelites.

    Then, too, we must keep in mind that names then had real meaning and were not just “labels” to identify an individual as today. Moses knew that Abram’s name (meaning “Father Is High (Exalted)”) was changed to Abraham (meaning “Father of a Crowd (Multitude)”), the change being made because of God’s purpose concerning Abraham. So, too, the name of Sarai was changed to Sarah and that of Jacob to Israel; in each case the change revealed something fundamental and prophetic about God’s purpose concerning them. Moses may well have wondered if Jehovah would now reveal himself under some new name to throw light on his purpose toward Israel. Moses’ going to the Israelites in the “name” of the One who sent him meant being the representative of that One, and the greatness of the authority with which Moses would speak would be determined by or be commensurate with that name and what it represented. (Compare Exodus 23:20,[bless and do not curse]21; 1 Samuel 17:45.)

    God’s reply in Hebrew was: ʼEh·yeh′ ʼAsher′ ʼEh·yeh′. Some translations render this as “I AM THAT I AM.” However, it is to be noted that the Hebrew verb ha·yah′, from which the word ʼEh·yeh′ is drawn, does not mean simply “be.” Rather, it means “become,” or “prove to be.” The reference here is not to God’s self-existence but to what he has in mind to become toward others. Therefore, a more accurate rendering of the above Hebrew expression as “I SHALL PROVE TO BE WHAT I SHALL PROVE TO BE.” Jehovah thereafter added: “This is what you are to say to the sons of Israel, ‘I SHALL PROVE TO BE has sent me to you.’”-Exodus 3:14.

    That this meant no change in God’s name, but only an additional insight into God’s personality, is seen from his further words: “This is what you are to say to the sons of Israel, ‘Jehovah the God of your forefathers, the God of Abraham, the God of Isaac and the God of Jacob, has sent me to you.’ This is my name to time indefinite, and this is the memorial of me to generation after generation.” (Exodus 3:15; compare Psalms 135:13; Hosea 12:5.) The name Jehovah comes from the Hebrew verb ha·wah′, “become,” and actually means “He Causes to Become.” This reveals Jehovah as the One who, with progressive action, causes himself to become the Fulfiller of promises. Thus he always brings his purposes to realization. Only the true God could rightly and authentically bear such a name.

    This aids one in understanding the sense of Jehovah’s later statement to Moses: “I am Jehovah. And I used to appear to Abraham, Isaac and Jacob as God Almighty, but as respects my name Jehovah I did not make myself known to them.” (Exodus 6:2,[bless and do not curse]3) Since the name Jehovah was used many times by those patriarchal ancestors of Moses, it is evident that God meant that he manifested himself to them in the capacity of Jehovah only in a limited way. To illustrate this, those who had known the man Abram could hardly be said to have really known him as Abraham (meaning “Father of a Crowd (Multitude)”) while he had but one son, Ishmael. When Isaac and other sons were born and began producing offspring, the name Abraham took on greater meaning or import. So, too, the name Jehovah would now take on expanded meaning for the Israelites.
     
  8. timewerx

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    Because Peter was obeying satan at that moment. Peter had a tendency to become a hypocrite or a religious extremist in a bad way.
     
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