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Discussion in 'Current News & Events (Articles Required)' started by Littlek, Jan 13, 2021.

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  1. timothyu

    timothyu Well-Known Member

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    I believe God calls that self justification
     
  2. JimR-OCDS

    JimR-OCDS God Cannot Be Grasped, Except Through Love

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    No, just understanding history from the context it existed.

    Self justification means committing an evil and justifying it through rational thought.

    It has to do with an individual, not judging others from the past of which you had nothing to do with.
     
  3. timothyu

    timothyu Well-Known Member

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    Which is what man has done since the Garden as they continually seek gain at the expense of others (and call it progress lol) The very thing Jesus gave the alternative to.
     
  4. JimR-OCDS

    JimR-OCDS God Cannot Be Grasped, Except Through Love

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    Not exactly. The Europeans who came to the New World believed they were bringing Christianity to the savages. In many ways this was true.

    Should the European explorers just have turned around and gone home after seeing the New World was inhabited by indigenous people ?

    Hindsight of hundreds of years helps us to not repeat the same mistakes, but it doesn't change what happened nor make the people of the past more guilty because we're smarter. :D
     
  5. timothyu

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    More self justification.
     
  6. JimR-OCDS

    JimR-OCDS God Cannot Be Grasped, Except Through Love

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    I'm not justifying myself.

    You need a better understanding of the terms you're using.
     
  7. timothyu

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    No need for me to redefine what is good and evil to justify myself or an event/situation I am trying to defend.
     
  8. JimR-OCDS

    JimR-OCDS God Cannot Be Grasped, Except Through Love

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    OK so you take the guilt of the sins of people from the past.

    I thought that's what Jesus came for ?

    BTW, I'm not defending what the Europeans did, but understanding the history.

    Should Native Americans feel guilty for the sins tribes committed before the Whiteman came ?
     
  9. timothyu

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    Sin is nothing more than putting our self serving will ahead of the will of God which focuses on others.
     
  10. JimR-OCDS

    JimR-OCDS God Cannot Be Grasped, Except Through Love

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    And what is the will of God ?

    Did God will that the Europeans bring Christianity to the indigenous people of the Americas, or just leave them be practicing human sacrifices and cannibalisms ?

    Are you to feel guilty for the sins of others, or your own ?

    Are you guilty for Nero, Hitler and Stalin's sins ?
     
  11. atpollard

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    Lamenting the past is safe ... you can’t do anything about it. The real danger comes when you look at the real people living around you today and dare to try and do something about their very real current problems ... that might actually cost us something.

    Each one.
    Reach one.
    Teach one.
     
  12. Hazelelponi

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    I don't think this kind of talking, while I'm sure is fun, is appropriate to a thread the OP has expressed being afraid in...
     
  13. timothyu

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    Loving all as self.... not seeking gain at the expense of others then self justifying it by redefining what is good and evil to suit the moment.
     
  14. Hazelelponi

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    Thank you for your service.
     
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  16. The Transcendentian

    The Transcendentian Wise Guy

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    Definitely trust God and pray, don't let your fear control you. I agree with your post 99%, I've thought myself that Trump could actually have been working for the same people as Biden the whole time.

    I could be wrong but I think there's nothing wrong with being prepared. If there is actually a war coming (there might not be but also there could be) it would be best to prepare for years rather than weeks. I think knowledge is important and valuable, knowledge of how to live off the land and such.
     
  17. The Transcendentian

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    There probably will be a blackout at some point, maybe not right away. Like the partial blackouts California is experiencing right now.
     
  18. Littlek

    Littlek I'm His

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    Thank you, its getting way off track..but I know that can happen sometimes.
     
  19. JimR-OCDS

    JimR-OCDS God Cannot Be Grasped, Except Through Love

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    Not sure what you mean by loving all as self ?

    Jesus gave us two commandments, love of God and loving our neighbor as ourselves.

    Loving our selves is the commandment in addition to loving our neighbor. It's not loving our neighbor the way we already love ourselves.

    However, this doesn't mean that we are guilty of the sins of others as in the case of the Europeans who first discovered the Americas and didn't always treat the natives well. They did wrongs, but we have the hindsight to see it today and we weren't living in that time so we can't judge them for we weren't in their shoes so to speak.

    From what I know of history, they had a lot more to deal with than we understand and don't need to feel guilty for it, but avoid making the same mistakes.
     
  20. xaris

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    Rather than war, I believe persecution is coming.
     
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