"I am a sinner saved by grace."

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First of all, there is Romans 3:23, For all have sinned and come short of the glory of God.

Secondly, 1 John 1:8 says, If we say that we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us.

1 Timothy 1:15 says, This is a faithful saying, and worthy of all acceptation, that Christ Jesus came into the world to save sinners; of whom I am chief.

Galatians 3:22 says, But the scripture hath concluded all under sin, that the promise by faith of Jesus Christ might be given to them that believe.

On the other side of the coin, 2 Corinthians 5:17 says, Therefore if any man be in Christ, he is a new creature: old things are past away; behold, all things are become new.

1 Thessalonians 5:23-24 says, And the very God of peace sanctify you wholly; and I pray God your whole spirit and soul and body be preserved blameless unto the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ. Faithful is he that calleth you, who also will do it.

Hebrews 10:10,14 says, By the which will we are sanctified through the offering of the body of Jesus Christ once for all...For by one offering he hath perfected for ever them that are sanctified.

Titus 2:14 says, Who gave himself for us, that he miight redeem us from all iniquity, and purfiy unto himself a peculiar people, zealous of good works.

1 John 3:5-9 says, And ye know that he was manifested to take away our sins; and in him is no sin. Whosoever abideth in him sinneth not: whosoever sinneth hath not seen him, neither known him. Little children, let no man deceive you: he that doeth righteousness is righteous, even as he is righteous. He that committeth sin is of the devil: for the devil sinneth from the beginning. For this purpose the Son of God was manifested, that he might destroy the works of the devil. Whosoever is born of God doth not commit sin; for his seed remaineth in him: and he cannot sin, because he is born of God.

Luke 6:32-35 also says, For if ye love them which love you, what thank have ye? For sinners also love those that love them. And if ye do good to them which do good to you, what thank have ye? For sinners also do even the same. And if ye lend to them of whom ye hope to receive, what thank have ye? For sinners also lend to sinners, to receive as much again. But love ye your enemies, and do good, and lend, hoping for nothing again; and your reward shall be great, and ye shall be the children of the Highest: for he is kind unto the unthankful and to the evil.

Here in this last passage, sinners are contrasted with the saints. Saints love their enemies, sinners love only those who love them. Jesus calls us out in this passage from the state of being sinners and calls us to be saints.

Romans 5:5, And hope maketh not ashamed; because the love of God is shed abroad in our hearts by the Holy Ghost.

Galatians 3:14, That the blessing of Abraham might come on the Genitles through Jesus Christ; that we might receive the promise of the Spirit through faith.

Romans 8:4, That the righteousness of the law might be fulfilled in us, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit.

Galatians 5:14, For all the law is fulfilled in one word, even in this; Thou shalt love thy neighbor as thyself.

1 John 3:4, Whosoever committeth sin transgresseth also the law: for sin is the transgression of the law.

Therefore, (1 Corinthians 15:34), Awake to righteousness, and sin not: for some have not the knowledge of God: I speak this to your shame.

1 John 5:2-3, By this we know that we love the children of God, when we love God, and keep his commandments. For this is the love of God, that we keep his commandments: and his commandments are not grievous.

1 John 2:3-4, And hereby we do know that we know him, if we keep his commandments. He that saith, I know him, and keepeth not his commandments, is a liar, and the truth is not in him.

Therefore the idea that "I am a sinner saved by grace," while at first seeming to be a scriptural statement, at further introspection is shown to be something that we ought not to fall into.

Now 1 Timothy 1:15 does indeed say that it is a trustworthy statement to call one's self a sinner, even the chief of them. But at further introspection you will find that in context (1 Timothy 1:13) Paul was formerly a blasphemer, persecutor, etc. and considered himself to be a sinner in the present tense because of that; I suggest because he saw it in the same way that an alcoholic who has been clean and sober for thirty years might consider himself still to be an alcoholic (see also 1 Corinthians 10:12-13).

Therefore it is safe to say that if I am a sinner saved by grace, I am a sinner who (for the most part) doesn't sin.
 
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Your standing before God is the righteousness of God in Christ Jesus, not sinner. You sin, but your standing is saved and secure for eternity. That old label has been washed away by the Blood of the Lamb.

p.s. GREAT summary!!
 
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Your standing before God is the righteousness of God in Christ Jesus, not sinner. You sin, but your standing is saved and secure for eternity. That old label has been washed away by the Blood of the Lamb.

p.s. GREAT summary!!

Amen.
 
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OP: Q: ""I am a sinner saved by grace.(through spirit-led FAITH/BELIEF)".

A: Correct. Before/During?/After the Salvation Event and during the Salvation Process. Ephesians 2.

Romans 5:8
But God demonstrates His own love toward us, in that while we were yet sinners, Christ died for us.

" Substitutionary Atonement "...What is it ??

"Sanctification": What is it? The Biblical View!

Substitution = e.g. "huper"...Jesus died FOR you...in your place...on your behalf

2 Corinthians 5:21,
"He made Him who knew no sin to be sin "on our behalf", that we might become the righteousness of God IN Him."

Romans 6:10
For the death that He died, He died to sin once FOR all; but the life that He lives, He lives to God.

1 Peter 3:18 -
"For Christ also died FOR sins once FOR all,
the righteous (Jesus) FOR the unrighteous (Man),
that he might bring us to God" (reconciliation)

1 Peter 2 (NASB)
21 For you have been called for this purpose, since Christ also suffered FOR you,
leaving you an example FOR you to follow in His steps,
22 (Jesus:) who committed no sin, nor was any deceit found in His mouth;
23 and while being reviled, He did not revile in return;
while suffering, He uttered no threats,
but kept entrusting Himself to Him who judges righteously;
24 and He Himself bore our sins in His body on the cross,
so that we might die to sin and live to righteousness;
FOR by His wounds you were healed.
25 For you were continually straying like sheep,
but now you have returned to the Shepherd and Guardian of your souls.

Atonement = basic meaning of RECONCILIATION....work of redemption on behalf of ...

The OT is replete with a myriad of ritual laws to cover the sins of Israel.
The word is used ONCE in the KJV of the NT.

Romans 5:11
And not only so, but we also joy in God through our Lord Jesus Christ,
by whom we have now received the atonement.

the atonement. ...Greek 2643....katallage....adjustment of a difference, RECONCILIATION, restoration to favour

Romans 5: 6-11 (NASB)
For while we were still helpless, at the right time Christ died FOR the ungodly.
For one will hardly die for a righteous man;
though perhaps for the good man someone would dare even to die.
But God demonstrates His own love toward us, in that while we were yet sinners, Christ died FOR us.
Much more then, having now been justified by His blood, we shall be saved from the wrath of God through Him.
For if while we were enemies we were reconciled to God through the death of His Son,
much more, having been reconciled, we shall be saved by His life.
And not only this, but we also exult in God through our Lord Jesus Christ,
through whom we have now received the reconciliation.
 
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The blood of Jesus justifies us (Romans 5:9) because it sanctifies us (Hebrews 13:12) and also cleanses us (1 John 1:7). It also justifies us because it is the payment for sin's penalty.

But if the blood is applied, I don't see how it can justify us and also not do the other two things.
 
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Faith and works go hand-in-hend. James 2:22

Grace through spirit-led FAITH/BELIEF => salvation!

GOD offers. Man accepts or rejects.

Ephesians 2: 4-5,8-10 (NASB)
4 But because of his great love for us, God, who is rich in mercy,
5 MADE US ALIVE with Christ even when we were dead in transgressions
—it is by grace (unmerited Love/Mercy/favor) you have been saved.
8 For by GRACE (Love/Mercy) you have been SAVED through FAITH (/BELIEF);
and that (FAITH/BELIEF) not of yourselves,
it is the (spiritual) GIFT of God;
9 NOT as a result of WORKS, so that no one may boast.

10 For we are His workmanship,
created in Christ Jesus FOR GOOD (SPIRITUAL) WORKS, which God prepared beforehand so that we would walk in them.
 
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God counts as righteousness the faith of the one who doesn't work but believes on him who justifies the ungodly. Romans 4:5

On the other hand there is always a work associated with true faith, and a labour associated with the love that comes to us through faith. 1 Thessalonians 1:3.
 
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