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I am a proud King James Version Bible Belt Baptist

Discussion in 'Baptists' started by KingJamesVersionBibleOnly, Feb 14, 2018.

  1. KingJamesVersionBibleOnly

    KingJamesVersionBibleOnly New Member

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    Many Blessings, Amen?!
     
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  2. brinny

    brinny everlovin' shiner of light in dark places Supporter

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    :heart: Many blessings to you. (We gotta talk about that word "proud" LOL! ) :D :hug:
     
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  3. DeaconDean

    DeaconDean γέγονα χαλκὸς, κύμβαλον ἀλαλάζον

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    Oh no, not this topic again.

    Watching.

    God Bless

    Till all are one.
     
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  4. Steve Petersen

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    Sincere condolences.
     
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  5. KingJamesVersionBibleOnly

    KingJamesVersionBibleOnly New Member

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    Sadly, I noticed that and sent it anyway... :/ haha
     
  6. brinny

    brinny everlovin' shiner of light in dark places Supporter

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    LOL! Love you anyway brother. God bless you :hug:
     
  7. Southernscotty

    Southernscotty Well-Known Member Supporter Angels Team

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    I am a Baptist in doctrine , {Have you seen those buffets? LOL}
    Being a Chaplain I minister as non- denominational . Love my KJV.
     
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  8. Phil 1:21

    Phil 1:21 Well-Known Member

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    [​IMG]
     
  9. quidam65

    quidam65 New Member

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    Though we may not agree on everything, Amen my brother (or sister)!
     
  10. convicted1

    convicted1 Certified Flunky

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    They’re on multiple sites espousing this KJVO heresy. :liturgy::doh:
     
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  11. DeaconDean

    DeaconDean γέγονα χαλκὸς, κύμβαλον ἀλαλάζον

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    I just dealt with the same thing in the GT area.

    God Bless

    Till all are one.
     
  12. convicted1

    convicted1 Certified Flunky

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    Actually, I should have said ‘he’. This same moniker is on at least two other sites spreading this heresy.
     
  13. DeaconDean

    DeaconDean γέγονα χαλκὸς, κύμβαλον ἀλαλάζον

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    For more than a month, I was involved in a thread where the OP made it plain, that The KJV was a "perfect" bible, and many translations destroy unity.

    :sigh:

    God Bless

    Till all are one.
     
  14. Jeffwhosoever

    Jeffwhosoever Faithful Servant Staff Member Red Team - Moderator Supporter

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    KJV is written in 17th century Elizabethan English which is not what I speak every day, though I love the beauty of the KJV and it is one of my favorite translations, but it was written before discovery of the Dead Sea Scrolls which bible scholars found had editions of the Gospels and other bible books that predated sources available when the KJV was written and so I use the Hebrew-Greek word study NASB as my standard go to bible for serious research to discern fine points, along with the KJV, the NIV, the NLT, the Amplified, the NKJV, and the Message at different times.
     
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  15. The7thColporteur

    The7thColporteur Well-Known Member

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    King James Bible, the preserved word of God in English! Ya' got my vote - KJV Bible Vindicated
     
  16. TCassidy

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    Actually, the KJV is in early Modern English. (Old English: 500-1100 AD. Middle English: 1100-1500 AD. Modern English: 1500-Present.) It is a revision of the 2nd "Authorized Version" (The 1st being the Great Bible.) The KJV would have been the 3rd "Authorized Version" except the King never got around to "authorizing" it to be read in the churches of the Anglican Communion.

    Sorry, not there are no New Testament scriptures in the Dead Sea Scrolls. There was a shred of papyrus found in cave 7 called 7Q5 which some claimed may be part the Gospel of Mark. However, the only complete legible word is 'kai' - Greek for 'and.' Kinda hard to claim it is a New Testament manuscript when it only contains one word.

    The earliest of the scrolls were written around 150 BC, making it impossible for the New Testament to be represented. Some of the later scrolls may be dated to the first half of the first century AD, and the date of the writing of the Gospel of Mark is generally accepted to have been around 70 AD, Mark had not yet been written when the Dead Sea Scrolls were written.
     
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  17. TCassidy

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    Now, as to those who claim allegiance to the illogical and unscriptural position known as KJVO. Just a few questions.

    #1. Which KJV is the preserved word of God in English? The 1611 1st edition 1st printing or 1611 1st edition 2nd printing (they are different)? The 1613 edition? The 1629 edition? The 1638 edition? The 1762 edition? The 1769 edition? The 1873 edition? All are different, and as the KJVO mantra goes, "Things that are different are not the same."

    #2. There are over 1100 differences between the KJV of 1611 and the 1769 edition that most people who use a KJV use today. Even the KJVO apologist, D.A. Waite, says there are 136 "changes of substance" which change the meaning of the text. So, if the current 1769 KJV is the "preserved word of God in English" doesn't that mean the 1611 is not the "preserved word of God in English?"

    #3. What is the basis for your assertion that the KJV is the ONLY (the "O" in KJVO) preserved word of God in English?

    Hopefully we will be able to have an honest and mature discussion on English bible translations and how best to evaluate their relative merits, or lack thereof. :)
     
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  18. JackRT

    JackRT Gargoyle at Oxford University Supporter

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    The King James Version of the New Testament was based upon a Greek text (the Textus Receptus) that was marred by mistakes, containing the accumulated errors of fourteen centuries of manuscript copying. It was essentially the Greek text of the New Testament as edited by Beza, 1589, who closely followed that published by Erasmus, 1516-1535, which was based upon a few medieval manuscripts. The earliest and best of the eight manuscripts which Erasmus consulted was from the tenth century, and yet he made the least use of it because it differed most from the commonly received text; Beza had access to two manuscripts of great value, dating from the fifth and sixth centuries, but he made very little use of them because they differed from the text published by Erasmus. We now possess many more ancient manuscripts (about 9000 compared to just 10) of the New Testament, and thanks to another 400 years of biblical scholarship, are far better equipped to seek to recover the original wording of the Greek text. Much as we might love the KJV and the majesty of it’s Jacobean English, modern translations are more accurate.
     
  19. TCassidy

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    Erasmus used 1, 1rK, 2e, 2ap, 4ap, 7, and 817 to compile his New Testament, 1st edition, in 1516.

    For his 2nd edition he consulted Minuscule 3.

    The "Textus Receptus" (not a single text, but at least 33 editions, all different) is a slightly flawed representative of the Byzantine Textform which is the most attested Greek textform in existence, and is also the text underlying the 1904 Patriarchal New Testament Text, the official bible of the Greek Orthodox Church, which should tell us something when native Greek speakers choose the Byzantine Textform over the Alexandrian Text. :)
     
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  20. sunshineforJesus

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    Hi and welcome here.
     
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