Hunting arguements

[Tyler582]

K... any arguements for or against this type of hunting would be well apprecaited:

A small group of teenage guy freinds get together with their pellet guns and shoot some targets. Soon they decide that they want to now go and shoot some birds... the situation does not develop into a slaughter but one or two birdies are killed. The birdies are fed to some cats taht live in one of the boys garage, the cats are quite pleased and devour the meat. THe boys make sure that the birdies dont suffer, they are, after all, good Christian boys and have not been desensitized to suffering; on the contrary they are disgusted by it. Also keep in mind the boys arent shooting them at point blank just to watch the blood squirt; the hunt is challenging and it takes an afternoon to make even just two kills.

Is this type of hunting wrong? Even if the cats werent fed, the death of the bird doesnt disrupt the ecosystem and the birds surely dont have a soul... so I dont really see the problem. Keep in mind that the boys arent just out to torture animals or kill things, its about the hunt which is an instinct taht GOD GAVE to every man. I know normal hunting is just fine, but is this okay wiht you guys or what? THANKS, I apprecaite the input.

 

[servant4ever]

Hello Tyler,

I will try to answer this the best I can. We don't truly know what the boys were thinking when they went to hunt those birds. Their motive could have been like what you said, or they could have just been saying that to sound Christian. If their motive was just like you mentioned, then I think it was alright with what they did, they found some food for their cat. On the other hand, if their motive was to devour birds just to kill them, then I think it was wrong because since we are to rule the earth, that does not mean try to kill everything in our sight. So, my answer would be, we don't know their motive behind it. We can not look into their heart and decide. Only God knows and we will find out on judgement day if their motives were right.

Sorry if this didn't help,

servant4ever

 

[joshua_cheung]

K... any arguements for or against this type of hunting would be well apprecaited:

A small group of teenage guy freinds get together with their pellet guns and shoot some targets. Soon they decide that they want to now go and shoot some birds... the situation does not develop into a slaughter but one or two birdies are killed. The birdies are fed to some cats taht live in one of the boys garage, the cats are quite pleased and devour the meat. THe boys make sure that the birdies dont suffer, they are, after all, good Christian boys and have not been desensitized to suffering; on the contrary they are disgusted by it. Also keep in mind the boys arent shooting them at point blank just to watch the blood squirt; the hunt is challenging and it takes an afternoon to make even just two kills.

Is this type of hunting wrong? Even if the cats werent fed, the death of the bird doesnt disrupt the ecosystem and the birds surely dont have a soul... so I dont really see the problem. Keep in mind that the boys arent just out to torture animals or kill things, its about the hunt which is an instinct taht GOD GAVE to every man. I know normal hunting is just fine, but is this okay wiht you guys or what? THANKS, I apprecaite the input.

You have the mind that you have to protect the enviroment. So I think It is ok. It is fun and you can learn some skill out of it. But be careful because you can kill the birds mean you may hurt yourself or someone else.

However if the law protects the birds, No.

 

[Tyler582]

You have the mind that you have to protect the enviroment. So I think It is ok. It is fun and you can learn some skill out of it. But be careful because you can kill the birds mean you may hurt yourself or someone else.

However if the law protects the birds, No.

Weeeeee, a supporter . Lol, anyone else? Anyone have an arugement against it? I really cant see in the Bible were it says not to hunt... no one NEEDS to hunt in our society, but that doesnt make it wrong.

 

[servant4ever]

Hello Tyler,

I know I am going to be repetitve here, but their motives sounds like it was nice. From what you said, their motive was to kill some birds so their cat could be fed. So, it is good since they were providing for their cat. But, if their original motives was to just kill and then find an excuse for killing later, it would be wrong because Adam and Eve were allowed to rule the earth, but we notice they didn't go killing animals for the fun of it, they only killed animals for providing clothing and food, but I guess God did the first killing of the animals, but you get my point...

servant4ever

 

[pcwilkins]

God made those birds. Is it ok to destroy His creations?

PCW

 

[wonder111]

I agree with PCW. You have to see these birds as God's artwork really. You wouldn't want to destroy his creations, but for food that is a different matter

 

[Tyler582]

Hello Tyler,

I know I am going to be repetitve here, but their motives sounds like it was nice. From what you said, their motive was to kill some birds so their cat could be fed. So, it is good since they were providing for their cat. But, if their original motives was to just kill and then find an excuse for killing later, it would be wrong because Adam and Eve were allowed to rule the earth, but we notice they didn't go killing animals for the fun of it, they only killed animals for providing clothing and food, but I guess God did the first killing of the animals, but you get my point...

servant4ever

The thing about this subject is that NO ONE that is against the hunting has any proof... or Bible verses! Society is generally against it cause the people have grown up away from it. Youre also likely just appalled by it because youve never dealt with it directly. Lets see some proof fed arguement here .

 

[SirFei]

Simple reply:

Genesis 1:27-30
"So God created man in His own image; in the image of God He created him; male and female He created them.
"Then God blessed them, and God said to them, 'Be fruitfal and multiply; fill the earth and subdue it; have dominion over the fish of the sea, over the birds of the air, and over every living thing that moves on the earth.'
And God said, "See, I have given you every herb that yields sed which is on the face of all the earth, and every tree whose fruit yields sed; to you it shall be for food.
"'Also, to every beast of the earth, to every bird of the air, and to everything that creeps on the earth, in which there is life, I have given every green herb for food'; and it was so."

As you can see here, God gave us rule over all beasts of every kind on the face of the earth. Now, as it is God's creation, we must not abuse our powers, as God does not abuse his, but all creatures are here for our food and for ours to oversee. I personally don't see anything with hunting for food. For sport without the need or using for food (by whatever means), that I believe is wrong, but this is only my opinion.
God Bless,

~Marc

 

[servant4ever]

The thing about this subject is that NO ONE that is against the hunting has any proof... or Bible verses! Society is generally against it cause the people have grown up away from it. Youre also likely just appalled by it because youve never dealt with it directly. Lets see some proof fed arguement here .

Didn't I give some Biblical background? I didn't quote the verses or chapters or whatever, but I did state a Biblcal passage in my post.

servant4ever

 

[Deamiter]

Show where Adam and Eve killed animals for food and clothing, and I will be VERY impressed! Genesis is so vague on this point that some people even believe that there was no death AT ALL before the fall (which I find rather unlikely...)

In the absence of verses, I admit, I must agree with Tyler - that there is no problem with hunting. Even for sport - though I think it's a pretty thin line. We're prone to kill off species (like the Bison) or learn that killing is okay. There are tons of documented cases where senseless murders are preceded by animal mutilation or abuse of animals.

For this psychological reason, of none other, I think it is important that a hunter have more than simply 'killing' in mind when he or she goes out to hunt. Killing the birds could very well have been to feed the cats - or as practice for deer or pheasant hunting etc....

That said, I have no problem at ALL with hunting simply for sport. Generally, though, the reason it's 'sport' and not for food is simply because we do not NEED to hunt to get our meat. Most hunters I know hunt for both the excitement (and social aspects) AS WELL as for the food.

 

[servant4ever]

Hello Deamiter,

God killed the first animal for clothing. Genesis 3:21: "The LORD God made garments of skin for Adam and his wife and clothed them (NIV)." That skin would have to come from an animal. Also, God allowed Noah and his descendants (which we are today) to eat meat. Genesis 9:3: "Everything that lives and moves will be food for you. Just as I gave you the green plants, I now give you everything (NIV)." So, hunting is alright for people if it is for clothing or food. If the motive for hunting, for example, just to kill for the fun of it, or the animal made you angry, it is wrong, because that is considered murder, and murder is sin.

servant4ever

 

[JVD]

Hunting is OK...it is part of the dominion over the earth that is our responsibility. Even sport hunting is OK as long as it is legal because it is normally not allowed unless there is a surplus of the specific animals to hunt.

It is usually illegal to kill small birds (song birds etc) Check your local regulations. In our area that would be a violation of game laws and one would lose his gun and hunting privileges as well as get a fine.

 

[Radagast]

God made those birds. Is it ok to destroy His creations?

Sure it is! But He will want a good reason...

-- Radagast

 

[Tyler582]

Saying that God killed the first animal for clothing is silly... just because it doesnt talk about animals dying before that point doesnt mean it didnt happen. It never talks about Adam and Eve kissing but taht doesnt mean they didnt do it...

If hunting for sport was bad dont you think thered be at least ONE direct verse about it? I still think taht the reason you think it is wrong is personal and dependant on your upbringing and life and outlook on things, not because the Bible told you so.

 

[Tyler582]

I feel taht my words on here may seem a bit hostile and rude at times... Maybe they are not, but if they are Id just like to let everyone that particpated know that Im greatful for your thoughts and highly respect you. No offence to anyone is meant.