Hunter's laptop -- will be devastating to the Bidens and the Democrats

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You mean the China News didn't cover this?
Biden himself admitted it on TV
and then he laughed about it.
Man where have you all been?
M

Mbob - Lets not forget China...

"But Trump himself has taken on debt from China. In 2012, his real estate partner refinanced one of Trump’s most prized New York buildings for almost $1 billion. The debt included $211 million from the state-owned Bank of China, which matures in the middle of what could be Trump’s second term."

Trump owed tens of millions to Bank of China

"The details remain sketchy, but it seems that the Trump account was set up for business purposes—either as a wholly owned foreign enterprise or as a joint venture with an unknown Chinese partner. In that case, having a bank account would be not only legitimate but also advised, Dan Harris, an experienced China business attorney, wrote in a text message."
“Maybe he was operating 100 percent legally in China,” Harris said. “But he simply didn’t reveal it (as he should have done) because the optics were so bad for him.”

Why Does Trump Have a Chinese Bank Account?

"Soon after Donald Trump took office, people with ties to the Chinese state poured hundreds of thousands of dollars into his re-election bid to get close to and potentially influence the new president."

Political Donors Linked to China Won Access to Trump, GOP

"The Chinese government is extending a $500 million loan to a state-owned construction company to build an Indonesian theme park that will feature a Trump-branded golf course and hotels."

China Contributes $500 Million to Trump-Linked Indonesia Project | National Review

"A major construction company owned by the Chinese government was awarded another contract this week to work on the Trump golf club development in Dubai, further raising questions about potential conflicts of interest between Donald Trump's presidency and his vast real estate empire."

https://www.mcclatchydc.com/news/politics-government/white-house/article213164779.html

Read more here: https://www.mcclatchydc.com/news/politics-government/white-house/article213164779.html#storylink=cpy
 
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Bob you gotta stop quoting right wing news, because the leftists have all of it on auto pilot dismissal as hate speech. Just as left wing news is not credible in this time to right wingers, right wing news is not credible to left wingers and the communist led folk in this time. Both sides are agenda driven, neither side likes the others agenda.

That is why it is important to find and use sources that do not have strong leanings left or right...and further are labeled for quality reporting. Sorry, hannity, o'reillly do not meet that standard! If you question such...simply use media bias or another site.

Also, one should make a distinction between reporting and opinion. Unfortunately one needs to do a bit of work to sort through all of the available info... the news entertainers - o'reilly, hannity, carlson, etc. - are quite skilled at cherry picking, ignoring context, and skewing and twisting...but of course if that suits your bias, so be it - just don't expect any reasoned person to accept it!
 
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Well now we have Hannity and O'Reilly. Now if we can only get Tucker and Rush's opinion, that will ice it. :sunglasses:

According to court documents, O'Reilly physically assaulted his wife after she caught him half-naked and having phone sex in their bedroom back in 2009. He attacked his wife in front of his daughter. It was also stated in the affidavit that the man who had been hired to protect the family, was caught off guard at the sight of O'Reilly naked from the waist down. There's also this news about him: Fox News drops Bill O'Reilly in wake of harassment allegations. My question is, why should we listen to him?
 
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That is why it is important to find and use sources that do not have strong leanings left or right...and further are labeled for quality reporting. Sorry, hannity, o'reillly do not meet that standard! If you question such...simply use media bias or another site.

Also, one should make a distinction between reporting and opinion. Unfortunately one needs to do a bit of work to sort through all of the available info... the news entertainers - o'reilly, hannity, carlson, etc. - are quite skilled at cherry picking, ignoring context, and skewing and twisting...but of course if that suits your bias, so be it - just don't expect any reasoned person to accept it!
I don't watch network news, neither side is worth a hill of beans.
 
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When you list Sean Hannity as a source much of the world laughs. I guess we'll wait on the edge of our seats to see what happens, but I won't be surprised if this goes the way of Hillary's home computer...much ado about nothing once the election is over.

Agreed.
 
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I don't watch network news, neither side is worth a hill of beans.

Perhaps, but you derive your opinions from somewhere! There are many unbiased and quality sources online, and again one simply needs to distinguish editorial/opinion from facts. Also, to further one's own thoughts and opinions there exist those who offer opinions based on credible sourcing and long term trust.

The information noted to Mbob...is not mere opinion but rather based in incontrovertible fact!
 
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Whatever evidence is available will quickly be dismissed and then disappear under Biden and his media outlets.

There is but one narrative and therefore one truth. Propaganda has been elevated higher than ever in our history.

One message
One voice
One ‘truth’

If correct and this is the beginning of a socialist society, the next steps will be the imprisonment of political adversaries because they will be deemed enemies of the state.

One party has full control of

The Executive Branch
The legislative Branch
The judicial branch
The military
And now the media and big tech also.

Power corrupts, absolute power corrupts absolutely

Joe is already speaking about his plan for disseminating monies based on race.

75,000,000 are not only being told their votes don’t count, but that they are all racist haters and deserve to be silenced.
 
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Power corrupts, absolute power corrupts absolutely

Joe is already speaking about his plan for disseminating monies based on race.

75,000,000 are not only being told their votes don’t count, but that they are all racist haters and deserve to be silenced.

Just to be clear, the proper quote is "Power tends to corrupt, ...". No, 75,000,000 people are being told that their vote fell short ... what is being told is that trump and his minions are lying about election fraud because the evidence is non-existent!
 
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Whatever evidence is available will quickly be dismissed and then disappear under Biden and his media outlets. (snip)
OR...the fact that there's no actual evidence found will (if the 'election fraud" myths are any indication) will be taken, not as proof there isn't anything there but rather as "proof of everything we said!". Because the belief in "Biden's computer!!" has long since stopped being about facts, evidence or proof but has now entered the dogma stage of some of the people living in the conservative bubble. Like all the other myths they hold as "a truth that can't be denied!" it will be believed until they decide to not believe it any more.
tulc(just thought that should be pointed out)
 
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Whatever evidence is available will quickly be dismissed and then disappear under Biden and his media outlets...

Or, it will disappear because it is bunk and political propoganda.

...Propaganda has been elevated higher than ever in our history...

True. Trump brought us this. He said the reliable news sources we listened to for years were "fake news." And they believed him. He said his alternative facts were the truth. And they believed him. He said the election was stolen. And they believed him. He said come to Washington and stop the steal. And they believed him. There is a reason he was banned from social media. To stop the lies misleading 45% of the American public.

If correct and this is the beginning of a socialist society, the next steps will be the imprisonment of political adversaries because they will be deemed enemies of the state...

Oh, just stop it with the QANON stuff. There is no coming socialist society and no one is advocating jailing adversaries unless they have been convicted of crimes. Our leaders are not exempt from being held accountable to same laws that govern us all.

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...75,000,000 are not only being told their votes don’t count, but that they are all racist haters and deserve to be silenced.

75 million voters are being told the number of votes for their preferred candidate weren't enough because more voters dislike him than like him. And some of his followers are being told you can't commit sedition to try to overturn a fair election. Also, killing a cop is not a nice thing to do.
 
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Because the belief in "Biden's computer!!" has long since stopped being about facts, evidence or proof

Not according to the multiple FBI investigations currently still taking place.

But once Joe takes the FBI over, they will be ignored, forgotten and never spoken of again.

Totalitarianism cannot allow independent investigations. There will be zero investigations. Just can’t happen.

The media will play an important role in this also.
 
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Not according to the multiple FBI investigations currently still taking place.
Got a link from the FBI for that?

But once Joe takes the FBI over, they will be ignored, forgotten and never spoken of again.

Totalitarianism cannot allow independent investigations. There will be zero investigations. Just can’t happen.

The media will play an important role in this also.
aaanndd...it doesn't matter what they do/don't find in all those alleged investigations being conducted, it's already apparently a "fact" for some people.
tulc(just a thought)
 
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Not according to the multiple FBI investigations currently still taking place.

But once Joe takes the FBI over, they will be ignored, forgotten and never spoken of again.

Totalitarianism cannot allow independent investigations. There will be zero investigations. Just can’t happen.

The media will play an important role in this also.

The MSM may very well be just sitting on the information about Joe and Hunter until it becomes beneficial to get rid of Joe in favor of Kamalla and all the extremist leftists Joe has already appointed to be his cabinet members. People like to say Joe is a "moderate" democrat, but the people he's surrounding himself with tells the full story. When Joe is gone, the people he surrounded himself with will be fully in charge--not only of the executive branch, but pretty much everything at the federal level.
 
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The MSM may very well be just sitting on the information about Joe and Hunter
...or there's simply no information to sit on. Which would also explain why no information has come out.


until it becomes beneficial to get rid of Joe in favor of Kamalla and all the extremist leftists Joe has already appointed to be his cabinet members. People like to say Joe is a "moderate" democrat, but the people he's surrounding himself with tells the full story. When Joe is gone, the people he surrounded himself with will be fully in charge--not only of the executive branch, but pretty much everything at the federal level.
Or none of the above is true?
tulc(suspects that may be the more accurate explanation)
 
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Well now we have Hannity and O'Reilly. Now if we can only get Tucker and Rush's opinion, that will ice it. :sunglasses:

Tucker had the evidence, but UPS ate it, but then they barfed it back up, and Tucker decided to keep it to himself, saying that he used to be neighbors with Hunter, and that Hunter was an okay guy.

Rush, I think, is still telling people that Covid is fake. Or that smoking doesn't cause cancer. Or something like that.
 
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