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Human Folly And God's Wrath

Discussion in 'Controversial Christian Theology' started by Senecharnix, Oct 2, 2012.

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  1. JesusMartyr

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    Yeah, like being put on trial and mocked and killed for the name of Jesus :)
    OH WHAT A GLORIOUS perilous END TO BE DESIRED I HOPE SO!!!

    The END has happened to all who are now dead. The only ones who ever did or ever WOULD fear their END, are those without the Holy Spirit of Christ Jesus our Lord.

    Those who shrink away in fear are not fit for the Kingdom of God as we all know.

    The last thing we need is some antagonist telling us we all need to believe his words that we are going to face tribulation.

    No one enters the Kingdom of God without going through tribulation. It has always been that way. That is EXACTLY how we bring forth the Son of God within us, the Wife of Christ, as we LABOR in BIRTH PANGS and TRAVAIL PANGS.

    The fact is, we forget those necessary pains when we bring forth His Son :)

    So bring on more PAIN! :)

    (Joh 16:19) Now Jesus knew that they were desirous to ask him, and said unto them, Do ye enquire among yourselves of that I said, A little while, and ye shall not see me: and again, a little while, and ye shall see me?

    (Joh 16:20) Verily, verily, I say unto you, That ye shall weep and lament, but the world shall rejoice: and ye shall be sorrowful, but your sorrow shall be turned into joy.

    (Joh 16:21) A woman when she is in travail hath sorrow, because her hour is come: but as soon as she is delivered of the child, she remembereth no more the anguish, for joy that a man is born into the world.

    (Joh 16:22) And ye now therefore have sorrow: but I will see you again, and your heart shall rejoice, and your joy no man taketh from you.

    (Rev 12:1) And there appeared a great wonder in heaven; a woman clothed with the sun, and the moon under her feet, and upon her head a crown of twelve stars:

    (Rev 12:2) And she being with child cried, travailing in birth, and pained to be delivered.

    (Act 14:22) Confirming the souls of the disciples, and exhorting them to continue in the faith, and that we must through much tribulation enter into the kingdom of God.

    (Rom 8:21) that also the creation itself shall be set free from the servitude of the corruption to the liberty of the glory of the children of God;

    (Rom 8:22) for we have known that all the creation doth groan together, and doth travail in pain together till now.

    (Rom 8:23) And not only so , but also we ourselves, having the first-fruit of the Spirit, we also ourselves in ourselves do groan, adoption expecting--the redemption of our body;

    (Rom 8:35) Who shall separate us from the love of the Christ? tribulation, or distress, or persecution, or famine, or nakedness, or peril, or sword?

    (Rom 8:36) (according as it hath been written--`For Thy sake we are put to death all the day long, we were reckoned as sheep of slaughter,')

    (Rom 8:37) but in all these we more than conquer, through him who loved us;

    (Rom 8:38) for I am persuaded that neither death, nor life, nor messengers, nor principalities, nor powers, nor things present,

    (Rom 8:39) nor things about to be, nor height, nor depth, nor any other created thing, shall be able to separate us from the love of god, that is in Christ Jesus our Lord.

     
  2. JesusMartyr

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    (Mar 4:38) and he himself was upon the stern, upon the pillow sleeping, and they wake him up, and say to him, `Teacher, art thou not caring that we perish?'

    (Mar 4:39) And having waked up, he rebuked the wind, and said to the sea, `Peace, be stilled;' and the wind did lull, and there was a great calm:

    (Mar 4:40) and he said to them, `Why are ye so fearful? how have ye not faith?'
     
  3. JesusMartyr

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    These are true prophets Senecharib. Not to be mistaken for modern day self appointed prophets. Their Word needs no modification or updating.
    All who are of His Annointed know all things necessary to be prepared for all things whatsoever could possibly come upon them.

    As His Annointed, we are to preach to the lost, to save THEM from their mortality. Not to be pushing ourselves upon other Christians with a futuristic "fear in the sky" plan of "some unique tribulation" they need to prepare for. The Lord isn't part of that non-sense.

    What has been important for Him to say, has already been said and recorded for us in Holy Writ.
     
  4. Hillsage

    Hillsage One for Him and Him for all Supporter

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    For a fact;

    ROM 5:3 And not only this, but we also exult in our tribulations, knowing that tribulation brings about perseverance; 4 and perseverance, proven character;...

    And whose 'character' are we following after ??? and how did He get it?

    HEB 2:10 For it was fitting that he,.... should make the pioneer/JESUS of their salvation perfect through suffering.

    Welllll, let's don't go 'all sadistic' now. ;)
     
  5. JesusMartyr

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    It is easy to know a true prophet from a false prophet.

    The words of the Prophets are clear and dear to Christ and His Saints.

    (Zec 1:4) Be ye not as your fathers, unto whom the former prophets cried, saying, Thus saith the LORD of hosts, Return ye now from your evil ways, and from your evil doings: but they did not hear, nor hearken unto me, saith the LORD.

    A TRUE prophet preaches to others to turn from their evil ways and doings.

    Jesus specifically says we are NOT to be concerned for where we live or what we wear or what we eat or to worry about what may come tomorrow as a false prophet would... Only a false prophet deals in futuristic unprovable claims, and deals in fears and anxiety...



    (Mat 6:25) Therefore I say unto you, Be not anxious for your life, what ye shall eat, or what ye shall drink; nor yet for your body, what ye shall put on. Is not the life more than the food, and the body than the raiment?

    (Mat 6:26) Behold the birds of the heaven, that they sow not, neither do they reap, nor gather into barns; and your heavenly Father feedeth them. Are not ye of much more value than they?

    (Mat 6:27) And which of you by being anxious can add one cubit unto his stature?

    (Mat 6:28) And why are ye anxious concerning raiment? Consider the lilies of the field, how they grow; they toil not, neither do they spin:

    (Mat 6:29) yet I say unto you, that even Solomon in all his glory was not arrayed like one of these.

    (Mat 6:30) But if God doth so clothe the grass of the field, which today is, and tomorrow is cast into the oven, shall he not much more clothe you, O ye of little faith?

    (Mat 6:31) Be not therefore anxious, saying, What shall we eat? or, What shall drink? or, Wherewithal shall we be clothed?

    (Mat 6:32) For after all these things do the Gentiles seek; for your heavenly Father knoweth that ye have need of all these things.

    (Mat 6:33) But seek ye first his kingdom, and his righteousness; and all these things shall be added unto you.

    (Mat 6:34) Be not therefore anxious for the morrow: for the morrow will be anxious for itself. Sufficient unto the day is the evil thereof.
     
  6. Hillsage

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    I agreed with 'most' of what you said, but this part...especially "dear"???? Not so sure.

    MAT 23:37 "Jerusalem, Jerusalem, who kills the prophets and stones those who are sent to her!
    How would you "prove futuristic claims" before they come to pass?

    ACT 11:27 Now in these days prophets came down from Jerusalem to Antioch. 28 And one of them named Agabus stood up and foretold by the Spirit that there would be a great famine over all the world;

    The prophet 'foretells/future' or 'forth-tells/present' a word from God. Whether there is fear, as a result, probably has more to do with the hearer than the speaker.
     
  7. Senecharnix

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    Alright, stop being so arrogant and self-righteous....
     
  8. Senecharnix

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    That is one big reason why God is going to destroy America. Her people allow her government to rage around our world and in our nation as monumentally foolish hypocrites.
     
  9. Senecharnix

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    The biggest difference between you and me is that I serve God; you worship a book....

    Sure, The Bible is magnificent, the most wonderful book ever penned on this world. But it is still a book. God is far greater....
     
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  10. IchoozJC

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    The true spirit of this "prophet" is coming out now. Curious, do you plan on personally having anything to do with this pending judgement about to fall on America?
     
  11. Senecharnix

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    Only someone exceedingly arrogant and foolish would make such a statement....

    You still refuse to understand what I have been writing about. The troubles headed for us are not about torturing God's children. God is sending them to punish the America for being wicked and most of her peoples for playing along with her wickedness. He will not spare her churches. Indeed, He condemns them for their role in America's wickedness. Even so, a few of their adherents are good folks. God will spare some of them from the brunt of what is coming....

    As I have been pointing out, it is easy for someone to boast about how big and strong their faith is, and by implication, brag about how righteous they are. It is an entirely different matter for that arrogant, self-righteous person to face the sort of monstrous hardships, horrors, terrors, and uncertainty that are on the way...Maybe some of us will get lucky and be removed before they arrive. No, I am not referring to the so-called Rapture. Even so, if you are still around when the troubles come, you will learned all about God's wrath and how terrible it can be. But it is also just--and necessary. If God failed to remove America in time, nobody would survive anywhere on this world in the long run. He has shown to me what would result. This world would become as dead as is Mars. Not even a nuclear war, a cataclysmic volcanic eruption, and the impact of a fairly large asteroid or comet would do as much damage as how Americans conduct themselves, while inspiring others to do likewise....

    Far too many who claimed to be Christians denounce what scientists have been warning about, concerning global warming and climate change. The truth is that the process in question is far more dangerous than they openly admit. One only needs to look back to the Permian Extinction to see where things are heading if we keep paving our world to death, while deforesting her, killing the seas, and pumping greenhouse gases into her atmosphere.* At some point, the methane stored in high-latitude marshes, swamps, and tundra will become an immense problem, especially when the methane hydrate of the continental shelves begins melting in mass. Those are the nuts and bolts of the mess humanity faces for being foolish--and no nation is nearly as responsible for promoting and perpetuating our foolishness than is America....

    *Our overuse of fertilizers, herbicides, and pesticides is another huge contributor to our crusade to kill our world. That is also true, concerning our use of anything nuclear. God is unamused....
     
  12. Senecharnix

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    Do you ever become weary of being a troll?

    By the way, I have never claimed to be a prophet. I am merely one of many servants of God....

    If any of you hope God will spare you from the brunt of what is coming, I suggest you shun Americanism as much as possible and try your best to become as much like Yeshua as possible....
     
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  13. Der Alter

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    Whether you actually call yourself a prophet or not, all those dire predictions you keep making show that you do in fact consider yourself to be a prophet. But all your "predictions" are so vague and general that you have left the back door open for "plausible deniablility." If you were truly receiving revelations from God you would be able to make specific predictions. Saying the sky is going to fall someday is meaningless. If God is behind the predictions you make, they would be very specific e.g. "The sky is going to fall next Wednesday at 3 PM." Let me know when you can make specific predictions.
     
  14. Senecharnix

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    That is not how things work. By your measure, Yeshua was a phony. He made never specified a date for any of his prophesies...Even so, I warned people about the troubles that arrived in September of 2008 years before such arrived. The deal is that I foretold that they would arrive in September, 2008. There are other examples if you care to do the research. For the most part, though, predicting events for specific dates is much more a seer and astrologer routine than that of a prophet....

    Nonetheless, you are missing the point. By America sticking her big, obtrusive nose into the Ukraine mess and stirring it the way has then harassing Russia about it, she has set in motion the machinery of her doom. In April, Russia and China finally decided that they need to work together against America. The Ukraine mess was the catalyst. The stage, however, began to be set by America doing foolish things, such as placing an embargo on Cuba instead of trying to get along with her. Bullying and sanctioning North Korea instead of signing a peace treaty and working our her differences with such, and sanctioning Iran. Meanwhile, she was flaunted her superiority through the dollar being the reserve currency in all sorts of other ways. Now, Russia and China have the support of other nations in doing away with the dollar's reserve currency status. Eventually, they will succeed in ending the dollar's reign as such. America and her good peoples will then begin to suffer for their foolish overspending. Even so, Russia and China, and other nations, have agreed to work together strategically against America. That will eventually extend to combining their armed forces to contend against her. Meanwhile, their scientists are working on ways to use her technological advantages against her. They will succeed spectacularly. Actually, they have already begun doing so....

    So, you want specifics, huh? Well, the Son told me that, when to big war begins, the armed forces of Russia and China, and other nations, will wiped out America's naval and aerial forces within a few months then begin wiping out her ground forces. Within three months, the casualties within America's armed forces will exceed 400,000. The losses will continue piling up and up. Meanwhile, the greatest naval confrontation in our world's history will result in more lives lost and a greater tonnage of ships sunk than in all other naval battles in the history of humanity combined. (No doubt, many of the lives lost will occur on islands and in coastal areas or result from merchant ships and privately owned vessels being sunk.) Then, one night, Russian and Chinese missiles and bombs will demolish America from coast to coast. Less than five percent of her population will continue surviving through the aftermath into the era of desolation to follow....

    By the way, for several years, I kept saying some huge development or event would arrive in April of 2014. Yes, I expected something spectacular. Depending on how one wishes to view it, Russia and China agreeing to work together against America's foolishness is an extremely big development. From a geopolitical perspective, it is spectacular...America has made a fatal mistake. Russia and China cooperating against her much more closely than ever in various ways will lead to her destruction. Oh, I'm sorry for being so dang vague. They are going to kill her. First, though, they and their buddies are going to destroy her financially and economically. God is helping them do so....
     
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  15. Senecharnix

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    Yes, those who claim to be "Christians" are such grand paragons of virtue. Since there were so many of them in Europe, during the Middle Ages and Renaissance, that was why Europe remained a paradise for so long. No war, raping, murdering, or pillaging ever showed their hideous heads there...That must be why America is such a paradise. Due to all of the "Christians" here, Native Americans are treated so well. There's no prejudice here. America's prisons are so under-crowded and are virtually resorts. Everyone in America gets such a fair deal in her judicial system--even the poor, blacks, Latinos, Orientals. None of the "Christians" are materialistic or hedonistic. They are so brave. That is why they have preached against America ever becoming a military superpower or allowing her police forces to become paramilitary thugs with badges....

    There is what could be, what should be, and what is reality. The fantasy claims "Christians" are practically perfect. The reality is that few who claim to be Christians actually are such...Beware of those who wear their righteousness and faith as crowns and badges of glory....
     
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  16. Senecharnix

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    That is pure garbage. The Apocalypse of Saint John the Divine aka Revelation was most certainly not written in 68 or 69AD. At the very earliest, it was penned (by an unknown author) fifteen years later. Babylon the Harlot is Rome--not Jerusalem. By the way, James was martyred in 66AD....

    No theologians or scholars, except those of bogus credentials, would embrace your fantasy version of history....
     
  17. he-man

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    Yes, America and all nations including Islamic, Russian, Catholic, etc. Joe 2:11 And the LORD shall utter his voice before his army: for his camp is very great: for he is strong that executeth his word: for the day of the LORD is great and very terrible; and who can abide it?
    20 But I will remove far off from you the northern army, and will drive him into a land barren and desolate, with his face toward the east sea, and his hinder part toward the utmost sea, and his stink shall come up, and his ill savour shall come up, because he hath done great things.

    Joe 2:27 And ye shall know that I am in the midst of Israel, and that I am the LORD your God, and none else: and my people shall never be ashamed.

    And when the time comes:
    Joe 2:1 Blow ye the trumpet in Zion, and sound an alarm in my holy mountain: let all the inhabitants of the land tremble: for the day of the LORD cometh, for it is nigh at hand;

    17 Let the priests, the ministers of the LORD, weep between the porch and the altar, and let them say, Spare thy people, O LORD, and give not thine heritage to reproach, that the heathen should rule over them: wherefore should they say among the people, Where is their God?
    Joe 2:18 Then will the LORD be jealous for his land, and pity his people.
     
  18. Senecharnix

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    We finally find common ground, He-man. At the end of this historical epoch, God will destroy all nations and such that remain at the time (though none will be all that intact and healthy). But I was referring to more immediate developments in regard to America. Her leaders always act as if nothing is dearer to them than peace. Yet they forever seek to play with their war toys. The list of acknowledged wars that America has jumped into or started behind the scenes before wading into is quite long. The deal is that America's armed forces have fiddled round in many more conflicts than her government admits. Yet she is all about peace and harmony, right?...

    By the way in another post or two earlier in this thread, I mentioned that God is going to destroy what passes for religions on this world, including Judaism, Christianity, and Islam...and replace them with a true and uncorrupted version of what could be called Christianity....
     
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    :amen:
     
  20. IchoozJC

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    Yeah, certainly doesn't sound like you have an ax to grind. :idea: Where all you anti-american internet prophets fail is in thinking that God cares about earthly kingdoms. IOW, there is no such thing as a Christian Nation! You call down judgement from the law on a people who aren't under law. Kingdoms will rise and kingdoms will fall, but the gates of hell will not prevail! For it is God who works in us for His good purpose! Christ is the head, and you seem to think that he is an unfit leader, you and the Mormons think Jesus can fail? You, as well as Joseph Smith, are false prophets.
     
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