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How to get to heaven when you die

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I_are_sceptical said:
Response to post 94:

Please post the Baha'i view of how Bible prophecy points towards belief in Baha'u'llah.



I'll say that prayer the INSTANT you or any other Christian convinces me that Baha'u'llah is a false Christ.

If Christ returned if Baha'u'llah is Christ why are you not in heaven. Why are you here suffering with nonbelievers in a corrupt world filled with war and famine?

150,000 people die every two weeks in Africa from disease and famine, Terrorists are bombing innocent people and killing hundreds. This is not heaven.

(edited a rediculous mispelling)
 
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revelations12_12 said:
If Christ returned if Baha'u'llah is Christ why are you not in heaven. Why are you hear suffering with nonbelievers in a corrupt world filled with war and famine?

150,000 people die every two weeks in Africa from disease and famine, Terrorists are bombing innocent people and killing hundreds. This is not heaven.
Christians say that when Jesus comes He will take all the believers to Heaven. But I am not a Christian. I believe different things.

If the world is corrupt, if there is war and famine and disease and terrorism, we should put God's guidance into practice in our daily lives. Then we will have Heaven on Earth. This is what the Baha'i Faith teaches. It is ideas like this that you want me to give up.
 
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Daughter of His said:
You can pray to God to help you believe. Once God reveals Himself to you there is no question. If you earnestly seek Him, not challenge, YOU should be able to find Him. Personally, if I were you, I'd throw myself on the floor and pray until I knew the truth of Christ Jesus who has mercy before judgement.
I did exactly that, in late 1976. Then I went to a nearby Christian bookstore and bought the two best study Bibles and the best concordance they had. Spent four months reading the Bible. Followed that with years of reading books on apologetics, to find out what Christians believed and why they believed it, and books on cults, to find out how to discern what is false. I compared that with what the Baha'is had to say. The Baha'is answered all of my questions. The Christians, and their literature, answered none of them.

Does that mean that Baha'u'llah really is the Second Coming of Jesus Christ?
 
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I_are_sceptical said:
Christians say that when Jesus comes He will take all the believers to Heaven. But I am not a Christian. I believe different things.
I am talking about what baha'u'llah taught, if he was Christ and returned what did he do? Where is the heaven that was promised?

I_are_sceptical said:
If the world is corrupt, if there is war and famine and disease and terrorism, we should put God's guidance into practice in our daily lives. Then we will have Heaven on Earth. This is what the Baha'i Faith teaches. It is ideas like this that you want me to give up.

Yes as a matter of fact I think so, Man is not capable of doing this on our own. We are not gods, only through Jesus can we find redemption for our life of sin. We will never be able to stop sinning, God found this out after he gave the ten cammandments to Moses. Heaven on Earth will be reigned by God, Jesus will sit on the throne.

The great deciever wants us to believe we can all grow to the level of enlightenment that God has that Jesus showed us. The great deciever tells us that we can have peace on earth and become Eternal right here.

This is not true we are containers that hold a soul, our soul is maturing and learning here on this place of trials. Only through repentance for our sins and believing in the one true God can we be saved. But it is a battle here between good and evil, this is the place of satan right now he is working to thwart Gods plan for a grand finale, he is building up the weapons of the Earth to try to win this war.

The war is for our souls and none of what I said is metaphores. For some reason our souls are important to God and to Satan and God told us what will save us in this den of Evil.

Without the protection of the Holy Spirit, only through being saved in Christ can we resist and see through the lies of the great deciever who is the current ruler of this earth!
Revelation 12:12 - Therefore rejoice, ye heavens, and ye that dwell in them. Woe to the inhabiters of the earth and of the sea! for the devil is come down unto you, having great wrath, because he knoweth that he hath but a short time. [read chapter]
 
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Daughter of His said:
I don't think anyone would want you to give up striving for excellence here on earth. What Christ offers us is life more abundant, life after this existence for all of eternity. That eternity will make this like seem so short.
Josh McDowell has written several books on questions people ask about Christianity. One of the questions is "What does Christianity have to offer?" The answer was getting your sins forgiven and spending eternity in Heaven. There was not one word about ending war, predjudice, crime. That is what the Baha'i Faith offers. A better world for future generations.

If I have to make a choice, eternal blessings for me OR happiness for others, I pick the Baha'i Faith.
 
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I_are_sceptical said:
Josh McDowell has written several books on questions people ask about Christianity. One of the questions is "What does Christianity have to offer?" The answer was getting your sins forgiven and spending eternity in Heaven. There was not one word about ending war, predjudice, crime. That is what the Baha'i Faith offers. A better world for future generations.

If I have to make a choice, eternal blessings for me OR happiness for others, I pick the Baha'i Faith.

there is a war that man is powerless to control going on here. All we can do is take a side. The bible proved itself true to give us a chance. What we do with it is up to us
 
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revelations12_12 said:
I am talking about what baha'u'llah taught, if he was Christ and returned what did he do? Where is the heaven that was promised?
Baha'u'llah wrote down detailed guidance about how we should live, both as individuals and as a world-wide society. Actually doing what He said will establish God's Kingdom here on Earth.
 
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I_are_sceptical said:
I compared that with what the Baha'is had to say. The Baha'is answered all of my questions. The Christians, and their literature, answered none of them. Does that mean that Baha'u'llah really is the Second Coming of Jesus Christ?

God does not reveal everthing in the Bible, there are many questions left unanswered. I think(don't know) that that is because it is God's business and if and when He wants us to know some of those secrets He will reveal them.
 
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1John 1:8-10
If we say that we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us. If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins, and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness. If we say that we have not sinned, we make him a liar, and his word is not in us. KJV
 
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