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How to Fix the Supreme Court

Discussion in 'American Politics' started by Fantine, Oct 27, 2020.

  1. GOD Shines Forth!

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    Nailed it, Sistren.
     
  2. GOD Shines Forth!

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    This. To the Nth.
     
  3. HTacianas

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    The number of justices does not affect the number of cases they decide. One court can only hear one case regardless of the number of judges. The cases they decline to hear are already decided.
     
  4. GOD Shines Forth!

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    No kidding! I don’t wan't the DC crowd anywhere near our Constitution. Our Founders were giants. Their wisdom holds firm and angers all the right people (just as God's Word reliably does).
     
  5. GreatLakes4Ever

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    The Founding Fathers were mere mortals. This deification by monotheists is most bizarre.

    Honestly the Supreme Court should be something like tripled in size and then have random selection for places to hear each case much like our district courts do now. That way we can have more cases decided by the Supreme Court since they are the court of last resort.
     
  6. wing2000

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    Such as the Warren-Burger era (both, btw, were appointed by Republican Presidents)?

    1954 Brown v. Board of Education of Topeka, Kansas, decision prohibiting racial segregation in public schools.
    1965 protect the right of married couples to use contraception.
    1967 legalized interracial marriage.
    1973 Roe v. Wade decision
     
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  7. Sistrin

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    Yeah, ok. Once again the Democrats have revealed exactly who and what they are. Yesterday a woman was sworn into the Supreme Court by an African-American Justice of the Supreme Court, the epitome of the ideal the liberal left claims to promote. Yet in response to this event Democrats, the Democrat party, and the liberal left in general has amounted to nothing more than foaming at the mouth anger and hate.

    And you prove that here, quote:

    The only one exposing themselves here is you. The President of the United States has the Constitutional authority to nominate individuals to fill vacant seats on the US Supreme Court. That is all that happened here.

    In response to this event the liberal left has responded with threats to expand and pack the court exactly because they did not get their way.

    Please explain how one compromises with petty totalitarians?
     
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  8. durangodawood

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    Only when the senate majority leader says so.
     
  9. Aldebaran

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    That's the power of being in the majority. Now, if that's not the way the voters want it, they can always vote to change who is in the majority. In 2016, they clearly wanted a SCOTUS justice of the conservative kind.
     
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  10. jayem

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    Another of SCOTUS’s jobs is to supervise the operations of the Circuit Courts of Appeal. Way back when, it was envisioned that there would be one SCOTUS for each circuit. (Justices actually traveled to their assigned circuits to review cases.) In 1869, there were 9 circuits. So there were 9 justices. Now there are 13 circuits. Also, in 1869, the US population was around 40 million. Now, it’s 340 million. A larger federal court system, and an 8 times larger population generates many, many more cases than 150 years ago. Even with their clerks and support staff, the court could use more man (and woman) power. SCOTUS receives about 8,000 cert petitions a year. And only hears around 80 of them. I’m sure there are far more than 80 cases raising important legal questions that deserve a ruling by the highest court.

    Here’s a thought: Expand the Court to 14 justices divided into 2 panels of 7. One panel is headed by the CJ—the other by the most senior associate justice. Cert petitions will be distributed equally and randomly to both panels. Cases will be heard if 3 of 7 justices agree to it. There are no witnesses at SCOTUS hearings. Just the attorneys make oral arguments and are questioned by justices. So there’s no real need for a courtroom. Each panel can hear cases by electronic conferencing. Which will save time and money and allow more cases to be heard. The opinions of 4 of 7 justices will be decisive. This effectively doubles the number of cases which can be decided.

    Other than traditionalism, and ideological/political concerns (which are both spurious) there is no reason whatsoever not to bring SCOTUS into the 21st century.
     
  11. Aldebaran

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    No need to "fix" what ain't broken either.
     
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  12. Fantine

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    The difference is in the
    Fair
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    Way it would be structured.
    I realize that those words are completely foreign to Republican Senators and the president-- but it's about time they crack open a dictionary.
     
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  13. durangodawood

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    Exactly. Its not about whats in the constitution, as sistrin claimed. Its about power, what you can get away with.
     
  14. KarateCowboy

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    I know right? It's basically "the current make-up of the court is largely faithful to the Constitution and will fulfill the role of checks and balances intended by the founders, even if the other branches are in agreement!"

    Like Biden's and BLMs racism, they're not even hiding it anymore. They're spelling it out, plain as day.
     
  15. Fantine

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    Did you know California has considered secession?
    Look at the West coast states.
    Look at the East Coast states from Maine to Virginia.
    They pay most of the taxes. They control finance, fashion, entertainment, government, aerospace industries.
    They have a president who abandons them in forest fires and viral spirals.
    They have a court shaping the country into one that violates all their principles.

    Exactly why should they support the freeloading stayes who are running the country? The country is becoming a place they want no part of.

    The progressive Midwest states near Canada could join Canada.

    One of the Times articles said that Dems should "threaten" to pack the courts and hold it over the justices' heads to force them into moderation...

    And see if it works.

    You have gone too far. America will revolt.
     
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  16. KarateCowboy

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    LoL

    Save the drama for Tumblr.

    If fixing the court by putting someone faithful to the Constitution in it ruffles your feathers then you have abandoned the basic principles of our republic. Time to check yourself
     
  17. Fantine

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    Or perhaps their "republic" abandoned them.
     
  18. KarateCowboy

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    Ok sure. We'll try it on.

    If putting a justice faithful to the constitution ruffles your feathers then perhaps your republic has abandoned you, because you didn't actually buy into it's principles, because you abandoned them.

    You need to check yourself.

    I recommend reading the Federalist Papers.
     
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  19. KCfromNC

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    Also, how many states do we need to add / remove to get Democrats to 2/3rds of the seats needed to impeach Donald's pet justices?
     
  20. KCfromNC

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    No, just the GOP Senate refusing to consider judicial appointments when the president was the wrong party and/or race.

    Nothing illegal about it, elections have consequences, blah blah blah. Don't like it? Perhaps the GOP shouldn't have made "whatever we can get away with" the standard for governing the country knowing how much of a minority their views are.
     
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