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How to do the Devil's work. (instructions).

Discussion in 'General Theology' started by DeepWater, Jul 23, 2019.

  1. DeepWater

    DeepWater Just The Truth

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    Salvation is not something that you lose. or can.

    Salvation is not something that you earn, or keep.

    Salvation is not something that you keep, or earn.

    So, what is it then?

    Salvation is JESUS. It's Him... Do you have Him? Then your salvation is IN HIM, and not OF YOU...... Salvation is none of you, and that is why YOU can't undo or lose HIM. (Salavation) He, IS Salvation, so, if you are born again, its because Jesus Who Himself IS salvation, has become YOURS and you have become HIS.. "Bought with a Price"..... This is what born again, the term.... is explaining. This phrase, "Born again", means you have left one situation, and have entered into something new that YOU don't control, and YOU dont do for yourself. So, when you read how a Legalist tries to deny the eternal redemption, and does not understand Grace, or eternal life, and wants to talk endlessly about how they are trusting in themselves and their list of do's and don't do's, that they are relying on, instead of trusting only in Christ, then what you do, is just ignore them. That is how you do it. You just recognize a self righteous person, who is not trusting in Christ alone, who does not believe that CHRIST KEEPS THEM SAVED......and you just ignore their attempts to do the Devil's work of trying to make you doubt your Salvation, and doubt your eternal life by having you come to believe that YOU are to keep yourself saved by whatever list they have of commandments or self effort. (works). So, just mark this person, and ignore their heresy. God does, and so should you.

    Salvation is very simple to understand. You are born a sinner, and you are separated from God because you have NO RIGHTEOUSNESS. So, God, came here as Jesus The Christ, and died on a Cross to solve this problem for you. He died to forgive your sin, (all of it).... but more importantly, He died to GIVE YOU HIS RIGHTEOUSNESS< and once you have it, (Born again), then for eternity GOD will only recognize you as "the Righteousness of Christ", as this is your New Identity, "In Christ"< and you can't change this born again situation, as you had nothing to do with it. You dont keep it.....>HE DOES. Philippians 1:6. This is GRACE.
     
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  2. timewerx

    timewerx the village i--o--t--

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    Just to be clear here, a person "born again" in the spirit would be a changed person.

    This change would reflect in the entirety of their being. They will acquire a new nature, one that is not of sin. So they will no longer take joy in sinning but actually try to avoid it.
     
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  3. DeepWater

    DeepWater Just The Truth

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    Just to be clear...... A born again person is not someone who would try to teach or imply that if you don't live the "christian lifestyle", after you are born again then you are "Lost" or "no longer saved".
    Just to be clear.
    Just to be clear, The same Savior who saved you, ( and this NOT of yourself), is the same Savior who keeps you saved. Hebrews 12:2 Philippians 1:6
    So, the very second a Legalist tries to imply, or justify, a set of self righteous reasons that a born again person can become unsaved, thereby.. = they are doing the "devil's work".
    Just to be clear.
     
  4. timewerx

    timewerx the village i--o--t--

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    Yes, your changed (born again) nature is what would make you do good things, NOT because someone tells you to do it or because you're doing it to maintain salvation.
     
  5. DeepWater

    DeepWater Just The Truth

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    Being "born again", is to have the Living Christ (God Himself) take up residence inside your body, "quickening" your spirit.
    The manifested result is that whereas before, you sinned and enjoyed it, wanted more, & never felt any sense of injured conscience. And unless you got caught, you never regretted the feeling of sin, tho, if your sin caused harm, then maybe you were sorry you got caught and, there is the potential that if you destroyed someones life with your sinning you might have felt a bit of regret. But thats about it.
    Sinners love to sin, sin is fun, it feels good, and so their attitude is, or as the Devil says..."do what tho WILT shall be the whole of the LAW". or the way a sinner will state it is...>"if i dont hurt anyone, then i can do what i want"...etc.
    But then enters Christ into our eternal situation. We become instantly born again. (saved, redeemed.)
    Suddenly, sin is seen, felt, and hated. You can feel it, you can see it everywhere, you can't not notice it.
    This is the effect of Holy God's Spirit " Sin-sensitizing" your born again spirit and conscience.
    This is why you'll stand at Redbox, or you'll start to rent that "R" rated movie you are interested in, and then, you have that "wait, let me look at the Rating, let me read it.....ah.... can't get this one". Whereas before you were watching it all, and enjoying all the Hollywood filth.
    So, yeah, you're going to notice sin in an extreme way from the very nano-second you are saved. (Born again, Redeemed), and this is one of the absolute full-proof PROOFS that you have that proves you have entered into the God Realm ("in Christ")< and "Christ IN YOU, the hope of Glory".
    If Jesus comes into you to exit, (Born again), Sin will suddenly become a very obvious thing to you, whereas before, you never even really thought of it as SIN.
    It was just "pleasure" and "habit".
     
  6. timewerx

    timewerx the village i--o--t--

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    This is true for me in some sins.

    But with some sins, it took me years until I finally understood it. One sin in particular is the sin of greed.
     
  7. 1213

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    I think it would be better to remain in the teachings of Jesus. Bible tells Jesus had right to forgive sins. By forgiving person is saved from the judgment that would come because of sin. And if person is born anew as the Bible teaches, it happens by God’s words and after it person will be righteous.


    It is the spirit who gives life. The flesh profits nothing. The words that I speak to you are spirit, and are life.

    John 6:63

    He who does righteousness is righteous, even as he is righteous. He who sins is of the devil, for the devil has been sinning from the beginning. To this end the Son of God was revealed, that he might destroy the works of the devil. Whoever is born of God doesn't commit sin, because his seed remains in him; and he can't sin, because he is born of God. In this the children of God are revealed, and the children of the devil. Whoever doesn't do righteousness is not of God, neither is he who doesn't love his brother.
    1 John 3:7-10
     
  8. sdowney717

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    We are kept by the power of God, through faith for salvation. So God's power He uses to work our being saved. God gifts to His people a measure of faith. Romans 12:3
    He does this because He showed to us His mercy.

    1 Peter 1
    3 Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, who according to His abundant mercy has begotten us again (born again in the Spirit) to a living hope through the resurrection of Jesus Christ from the dead, 4 to an inheritance incorruptible and undefiled and that does not fade away, reserved in heaven for you,

    5 who are kept by the power of God through faith for salvation ready to be revealed in the last time.

    6 In this you greatly rejoice, though now for a little while, if need be, you have been [c]grieved by various trials, 7 that the genuineness of your faith, being much more precious than gold that perishes, though it is tested by fire, may be found to praise, honor, and glory at the revelation of Jesus Christ, 8 whom having not seen you love. Though now you do not see Him, yet believing, you rejoice with joy inexpressible and full of glory, 9 receiving the end of your faith—the salvation of your souls.
     
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