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Discussion in 'General Theology' started by jimmyjimmy, Jun 18, 2017.

  1. jimmyjimmy

    jimmyjimmy Hard Right

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    These cases are impossible to prove, and we should not form theological views based on things other than God's Word. Veering from it to look for signs and wonders has lead many a soul into all sorts odd places.
     
  2. Waggles

    Waggles Acts 2:38

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    But Jesus through the gospel of John, Mark 16 and then the Day of Pentecost and the Acts of the apostles,
    followed by the epistles are the answer to Nicodemus and every other person who asks "how can I
    be born again?" (what does this mean?)
     
  3. jimmyjimmy

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    Jesus did answer him. We need look no further than the immediate text for the answer.

    Here's what He didn't say:

    Say this ("sinners") prayer after me.
    With all heads bowed. . .
    Use your freewill to choose right.
    Obey the law

    In fact, He did not instruct Nicodemus to *do* anything, did he? And, that makes perfect sense. A child has nothing to do with getting himself born.
     
  4. bbbbbbb

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    You are quite mistaken. The medical records of the young lady in question are still archived in the various medical offices in China. The conclusion of all of the specialists was that she suffered from incurable autism. Autism is relatively easy to diagnose, but humanly impossible to cure. Even effective palliative treatment is minimally effective.

    Neither she nor her parents had the slightest belief or interest in "signs or wonders" and were not Christians at the time of her diagnosis, although they are now, of course.
     
  5. jimmyjimmy

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    Autism is not a broken bone. It's can't be seen on an X-Ray. The explanation could be as simple as a misdiagnosis. It happens all of the time. I'm not saying that a healing didn't take place, but many other things could account for this, which is why it's dangerous, in a world in which Satan seeks to deceive us, that we hold firmly to God's written Word.
     
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  6. Waggles

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    No one remains in the grave for an eternity.
    The grave is 1) the repository for dead bodies - both the earth and the sea; decomposition
    The grave or 'the unseen world of the dead' - a place referred to as Hades in the Greek and Sheol in
    the Hebrew.
    2) A realm where souls sleep until the call of resurrection.

    But go thou thy way till the end be: for thou shalt rest, and stand in thy lot at the end of the days.
    Daniel 12:13
    As for me, I will behold thy face in righteousness: I shall be satisfied, when I awake, with thy likeness. Psalms 17:15
    For I know that my redeemer lives, and that he shall stand at the latter day upon the earth:
    And though after my skin worms destroy this body, yet in my flesh shall I see God:
    Job 19:25-26
    4 Return, O LORD, deliver my soul: oh save me for thy mercies' sake.
    5 For in death there is no remembrance of thee: in the grave who shall give thee thanks?
    Psalms 6:4-5
    But God will redeem my soul from the power of the grave: for he shall receive me. Selah.
    Psalms 49:15
    11 And I saw a great white throne, and him that sat on it, from whose face the earth and the heaven fled away; and there was found no place for them.
    12 And I saw the dead, small and great, stand before God; and the books were opened: and another book was opened, which is the book of life: and the dead were judged out of those things which were written in the books, according to their works.
    13 And the sea gave up the dead which were in it; and death and hell delivered up the dead which were in them: and they were judged every man according to their works.
    Revelation 20:11-13
    hell > the grave
     
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  7. Waggles

    Waggles Acts 2:38

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    Why are you promoting your unbelief?
     
  8. Waggles

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    Wrong. Very wrong. Jesus did give instructions to Nicodemus.

    5 Jesus answered: Amen, amen, I say to thee, unless a man be born again of water and the Holy Ghost, he cannot enter into the kingdom of God.
    6 That which is born of the flesh is flesh: and that which is born of the Spirit is spirit.
    7 Wonder not that I said to thee: You must be born again.
    8 The Spirit breathes where he will and thou hear his voice: but thou know not whence he comes and whither he goes. So is every one that is born of the Spirit.
    John 3:5-8
     
  9. jimmyjimmy

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    Which of those instructions are direction on how to become born again?
     
  10. jimmyjimmy

    jimmyjimmy Hard Right

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    I have no idea what you mean by that.
     
  11. Apex

    Apex Mind Reformer

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    I asked specifically about the healing of amputees for a reason.
     
  12. PeaceB

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    Water baptism in the name of the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit.
     
  13. Anguspure

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    But that's the funny thing...we speak but healing is rare and power is weak. Why?
     
  14. JESUS=G.O.A.T

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    I would say this

    born of water=baptized in JESUS name

    born of spirit=infilling of the holy spirit/holy ghost


    gonna be different answers through out though
     
  15. Tree of Life

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    I would ask: "Well what steps did you take to get born the first time?"
     
  16. Colter

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    Jesus could tell that Nicodemus was religious but not spirit born. But I would say, surrender your life to God, search for God with all of your heart and soul. While the body may be old the spirit is just beginning the eternal journey to find God.
     
  17. disciple1

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    In 1 John chapter 4 verse 7
    Dear friends, let us love one another, for love comes from God. Everyone who loves has been born of God and knows God.
    And love is the only thing that matters to God.
     
  18. sdowney717

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    Yes, exactly so.
    Jesus says you must be born again, born from above. And that is not dependent on you, for those being born of God this comes from the Holy Spirit, not of the will of the flesh.
    Those who are born of God, will come to Christ and be sealed in the Holy Spirit after they believe.
    All those born of God overcome the world by their faith, and that faith is God's gift.

    1 Peter 1:20-22New King James Version (NKJV)
    20 He indeed was foreordained before the foundation of the world, but was manifest in these last times for you 21 who through Him believe in God, who raised Him from the dead and gave Him glory, so that your faith and hope are in God.

    The Enduring Word
    22 Since you have purified your souls in obeying the truth through the Spirit in sincere love of the brethren, love one another fervently with a pure heart,

    Notice the above points out why we believe, it is because of Christ's work, for we are His workmanship.
    And we purify our souls in obeying the truth through the power of the Holy Spirit who is at work inside of us.
     
  19. Tsquared

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    If asked this question, I would respond with the wonderful words of Peter when he was asked by a crowd "What must we do to be saved?", " Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost." It even says that in that one day 3000 souls were added to the Kingdom. :) Must have been a great sermon! God Bless.
     
  20. Waggles

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    Because if you are not living Mark 16:15-18 then you do not believe the gospel preached by Jesus
    and upheld by the apostles and Christians of the first century church.
    This is why Pentecost enjoys healings, miracles and the diplay of God's power in our lives.
     
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