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How Should You View Yourself - As a Christian?

Discussion in 'General Theology' started by AubreyM, Apr 12, 2021.

  1. AubreyM

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    Hello you and welcome.

    How should you view yourself as a Christian?

    To this notion; first and foremost -> The bible is a gift of God that human beings have now today, to look at and read and see the Creation of the World, and also to Learn about the works of God through out history, it is a history of records of recorded times through out the generations preserved by Gods grace, and to see and learn about the Lord Jesus Christ the Son of God who is found in the truth of the Good News - The Four Gospels.

    About His life, death, burial, and resurrection.

    How should a Christian view themselves? -> Most in the world today, depending on the culture of Christianity you are around -> Many people will harp on sin. -> Sin, sin, sin. ->


    As human beings by nature we are sinful. -> There are scriptures in the bible you can look up that deal with sin - if you use this site (Browse by letter: 'A' - Thompson Chain Reference - ) click on the Letter -> S and find the word Sin.

    You will see every scripture that has to do with sin.​

    As human beings -> We are normally lead and tended to by our parents, and teachers who come a long the way as we grow up through life, and that even means people who are out there teaching the bible when you go to church.

    Have no idea what many churches preach about but do know normally one thing that is heaped and harped on and over are things like the last days, hell, sin. (For the most part) Not all churches are this way -> Have been in some that do mention of these things sometimes.​

    So the topic of this is as a believer in the Lord Jesus Christ what should you look at yourself as if you are redeemed by the redeemer who is the Author and finisher of your faith?

    Do you continue to harp over your sin, and see yourself as a sinner all the time?

    What does the bible say about how a Christian is suppose to see sin? ((9 Verses) Dead to Sin) These are 9 verses on sin, and how a Christian is suppose to look and see sin. As dead.​

    You as a Christian believer, should understand that Jesus Christ has forgiven your sins already. God showed loved for you first, the Lord Jesus Christ also showed love for you first.

    Because they loved us, as believers you are to Love God back.​

    If you Love God back -> It means to place him first daily in your life always, praying for others, forgiving others, continue to grow by the spirit, and in the knowledge of Gods will, spiritual understanding, and wisdom which is found in Christ Jesus our Lord.

    If you live by the spirit by Loving God -> You are going to naturally be able to have Love towards Others. God makes us alive by the spirit -> The spirit lives with-in us.



    You move away from (looking at your mistakes) looking towards Earthly things and start to let God renew your mind, and renew your heart through the spirit that is given by God.

    You are a new creation in Christ Jesus -> conformed into his image, the more you grow in the spirit, and die to the sin (of the flesh).

    You are not to see yourself as a sinner, if you are a believer who is seeking for truth.

    You are a now a Child of God, (Son or Daughter of God) -> Forgiven of your sins, they have been removed from your account by the buying back of the Lord Jesus Christ of your sin -> into being able to have a relationship with God now.


    What are your thoughts about these things?

    How should you view yourself - as a Christian?
     
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  2. timothyu

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    Where is the harm in understanding we are incapable of acting like gods and producing a system better then God's? Even as we progress should we delude ourselves in who we were? Man has struggled with a back and forth system built upon the psychotic reaction to the knowledge of good and evil and the struggle between our animal nature versus the spirit of God that dwells within us. We need not condemn ourselves to understand we are incapable of staying in the straight and narrow in a world that values self beyond concern for others. Animal instinct looks to self preservation before considering sacrificing oneself for another. We are a schizophrenic mammal seeking to reconnect with the spirit that is not flesh.
     
  3. AubreyM

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    Hello, Timothyu,

    So what do you think as believers, should a person see ourselves as when it comes to being a citizen of heaven by faith on the Lord Jesus Christ and God?

    Thank you for your comment, what does of all that mean though?
     
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    As I added at the end.. We are a schizophrenic mammal seeking to reconnect with the spirit that is not flesh. As a citizen of the Kingdom, as Jesus taught, we must put the will of God before our own. It's not primarily about us, but about the Father first.
     
  5. A_Thinker

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    We are the children of God.

    1 John 3:1 Behold, what manner of love the Father has bestowed upon us, that we should be called the children of God ...

    People are naturally fairly negative, ... even christians. You could opine that it is a result of the Fall.

    We should strive to live UP to the life with which God has gifted us.

    If we spent more time living UP, rather than thinking DOWN, we would do much better, I think.
     
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    True, providing we don't become self delusional. An understanding of our inherent nature should keep us humble while we also view God with a respect we cannot give to ourselves.
     
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  7. AubreyM

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    Alright, Timothyu, thank you for answering my question.
     
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    You're welcome. Sorry if my answer was more realistic than religious in nature.
     
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    Hello A_Thinker,

    You are right about that. As human beings we can be rather negative, even as Christians. Though being renewed in our minds and hearts, a lot of those negative things can change, when allowing God to help change us by the spirit, and by growing in the knowledge of Gods will, spiritual understanding, and wisdom.

    Believers are Children of God -> A citizen of Heaven by faith.

    Does this make us better than others that we should become prideful, and demoralize others, and crush them under our feet?

    Of course not, it doesn't make us better, but it does change the perspective of life, because of receiving knowledge that God loves the believers, but he also loves everyone else that are unbelievers and desires for them to come the knowledge of the truth as well.

    Though not all will accept, and many may reject willfully not matter how many times the conversation comes up, they just desire no part of the kingdom of God.

    You are right about the living up -> Looking towards Heavenly things rather than -> Looking down back at the earthly things or looking down at ourselves for our imperfections and mistakes that we make.

    The more a believer, focuses on the Lord Jesus Christ, and God in understanding that they are forgiven, that they are loved, that God loved them first, and now as believers we turn and show love for Him, and for others as the Lord Jesus Christ has said.

    Looking at yourself as a person who is now a Child of God, and no longer looked as a sinner -> being redeemed by the bloodshed of Christ Jesus who was resurrected by God.

    Believers do die (in baptism with Christ (his death)) (Flesh) being made alive by (God through the spirit) being spiritually risen again (Christ was risen - (with-in the believer), and as believers are able to walk in the spirit.

    Do you have any thoughts on these things?
     
  10. A_Thinker

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    I pretty much agree with everything you've said here.

    As children of God, we should be learning to see others ... as God sees them.

    I had an experience just yesterday ... where I became more able to see another person ... as God sees them. Believe it or not, I don't believe that I'd offered a prayer for this person until yesterday, although I've had interaction with them for years. Previously, I had allowed myself to think badly of them, because they don't conform to my view of responsible living, but yesterday I learned that they had had a harder life than I could have imagined. It was a valuable lesson ...
     
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    There but for the grace of God.. go I.
     
  12. A_Thinker

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    Indeed ...
     
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    That is very difficult to do, is it not? That is great news to hear about you and your growing in the grace of God, by the faith you are given as a believer. It amazing what Christ Jesus in and through us and is able to do for others.

    May you continue to grow strong in faith and trust in God and the Lord Jesus Christ, and Love for God and Others.

    Praise, and Glory be to God and the Lord Jesus Christ for all they have done for the whole world!
     
  14. Maria Billingsley

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    Howl I view myself and what I should be do not always match up. Ultimately, I would like to view myself as a perfect witness to Jesus Christ of Nazareth. Not there yet. Be blessed.
     
  15. Lost4words

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    I view myself as a sinner who needs the love and mercy of God in my life, each and every day.
     
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    Hello Maria,

    What would you say about your faith? Would you perceive you are perfect in it? The word perfect means mature in the Greek. Would it be possible for people to be mature in the faith?

    Do not believe we as humans will ever meet the standard of Christ expect - By Christ through us by the spirit of Christ/holy spirit.
     
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    Hello lost4words,

    Why? Why is it you view yourself as a sinner and not as as a child of God? A new creation in Christ Jesus?

    Of course you are right, believers should seek to understand that God has shown us his love, and mercy through sending His Son to die on the cross and rose Him up from the dead on the third day.

    Every day is a new day, to be thankful to God for his love, and mercy not just for ourselves but for others as well, to pray and be thankful towards God and the Lord Jesus Christ, and to remind yourself you are a new creation in Christ as a believer.


    It’s like in an analogy we start off as a worm in the ground stuck in the mud, and we come to Christ and we are transformed into a butterfly.

    Why would a butterfly need to come back down to get stuck in the mud and be trampled and stomped on again since they have been changed?

    Thank you for your comment, lost4words.
     
  18. Lost4words

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    I am a child of God. I am also realistic in knowing that we are ALL sinners too.
     
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    Okay, you are right, yes we are all sinners. That is agreed upon.

    Here lately Lost4words have been learning lately as believers in Christ how we are to become dead to sin. It’s not often taught in churches or anywhere I know of.

    It is interesting, and fascinating to learn about.

    To realize that we aren’t no longer seen as sinners when we come to God, though as his children. All people are creations of God, who are all messy and sinful, yet when you turn to God and the Lord Jesus Christ -> like the prodigal son the Father rejoices, over someone who turns to God and dies to their former lifestyle. Being born again into a new lifestyle that is not based on the flesh yet on the spirit.

    How are we to handle someone who comes to us in a conversation bringing up their sin, and how they can’t stop doing it, and how guilty and shameful it effects them, yet they can’t stop?

    Is it to tell them to repent? Is it to tell them, hey you know understand you by your own choice are making the decisions, but don’t you realize as a Christian we are seen as children of God or a son and daughter of God if we walk by the spirit?

    That flesh of ours is powerful, but the spirit is far superior, and the scriptures indicate believers are to be dead to sin, and realize that Christ lives in them, and He has the power to make the winds and seas obey him, and even the demons he cast out obeyed him.

    Can not Jesus Christ through you, put to death the things you are doing in your flesh that keep you sinning that makes you feel guilty or ashamed by the spirit?

    Or is it impossible?

    Thank you again for your comment.

    Ps, I don’t think we can be perfect (never like Jesus Christ in the fleshly body we have) but most assuredly mature in faith, in God and Jesus walking by the spirit that is given.
     
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  20. Maria Billingsley

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    I have a faith that is unwavering. God knows my heart . Only after death can one know just how perfect their faith had been.
     
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