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Discussion in 'Messianic Judaism' started by visionary, Feb 20, 2012.

  1. visionary

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    between a feast Sabbath and the weekly Sabbath when they are back to back?

    Could the feast Sabbath end at sunset and the weekly Sabbath start at the three stars sightings?
     
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  2. muzza21

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    When in doubt, keep Sabbating.
     
  3. visionary

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    Is there some Rabbinic ruling on this?
     
  4. muzza21

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    No, just the rule of, too scared to get it wrong.
     
  5. Phillip Hawley

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    No Sis, but there seems to be a Higher ruling on this:
    The original concept didn't include stars, just light and dark.
     
  6. visionary

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    Dusk is neither light or darkness.. so it isn't quite Day anymore nor is it Night yet...
     
  7. Phillip Hawley

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    Well I can't speak for anyone but me. But I know when its dark.
     
  8. visionary

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    Ok.. here is what I am working on... You can not purchase spices after the Sabbath and yet prepare those same spices before the Sabbath. So how is it possible??

    Mark 16:1 When the Sabbath was past, Mary Magdalene, Mary the mother of James, and Salome bought spices, so that they might go and anoint him.

    Luke 23:56 56 Then they returned and prepared spices and ointments. On the Sabbath they rested according to the commandment.
     
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  9. ProScribe

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    IMO, plenty of time year to year.
     
  10. Lulav

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    Resting, on the Sabbath, the weekly Sabbath.

    Preparation day for the week of Passover, cleaning out the leaven, giving to the Poor, making unleavened bread, etc.

    They went with Joseph to see where he was laid, to see the actual tomb so they knew where to return to.

    They kept the first day of unleavened by doing no work, and the next day they prepared the spices. Then came the weekly Sabbath, which they rested on, and after it ended, at sundown, they went to the tomb (Saturday night).
     
  11. visionary

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    Does anyone know how long it takes to prepare spices?
     
  12. ProScribe

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    Several hours depending on the village mother or grandmother doing the cooking & preparing of the traditional family meal.
     
  13. Lulav

    Lulav Older than ZIP Codes Staff Member Administrator CF Senior Ambassador CF Staff Trainer Supporter Staff on LOA

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    According to this site:

     
  14. Henaynei

    Henaynei Sh'ma Yisrael, Adonai Echud! Al pi Adonai...

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    This comes from translations made in the absence of an understanding of Judaism and festivals.

    The first Shabbat mentioned - Mark 16:1, the one after which they went and bought spices, was Pesakh and the first day of Unleavened Bread. As you know Pesakh and the first day of Unleavened Bread is a Shabbat. That year this festival fell on what we call Wednesday evening thru Thursday evening.

    The Shabbat in Luke 23:56 is the 7th day Shabbat.

    Thus they bought the spices after the first day of Unleavened bread, prepared the spices Thursday and/or Friday, made Shabbat preparations Friday, rested Shabbat and early Sunday morning took them to the grave.

    Oops!
    Yeah, what Lulav said ;)
     
  15. visionary

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    Yet unknown to these women.. the men were able to ...

    and that was all with the 3:00 death and 6:00 sunset which also included getting court's permission, verifying His death by the guards, taking Him down from the cross, and over to the tomb where he was laid, etc.
     
  16. Henaynei

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    Not exactly unknown - the women knew where the body was and that the stone was too heavy for them.

    It is my understanding that those initial spices were to cover the stench of decay, but not the entire burial process.

    As the sisters said to Yeshua of their brother 3 days in the tomb, "My L-rd, by now he stinketh!"
     
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