How many were killed in the Vietnam War?

[MorkandMindy]

Karnow's very scholarly book doesn't even mention the notion that oil had anything to do with the Vietnam War.

Is Vietnam an oil exporter or an oil producer today? I haven't heard of it.

If Vietnam has proven oil reserves, when were these discovered?

We haven't seen any source on these claims about Vietnamese oil.


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How scholarly can iit be when it leaves out, well, the elephant in the room.

The obvious question then is whether he brings to his department funding from the Rockerfeller Foundation, one way or another there has to be a reason.

 

[JYJ]

After ww2 everyone was concerned about the competitiveness between America and Communism (embodied in the Soviet Union and friends). The resources of the world were at stake of course. This is always a strong motivator. In short the Vietnamese thing was about stopping communism moving south in Indochina. Why? Because it was feared that our "interests" in countries to the south of the mainland would be threatened. We did not want this.

Go back to the Japanese in the years before ww2 and ww1 and note that they, too, were on the move in all these areas. Not without reason. Japan has no oil or steel of it's own. Were Japan went, we went. Communism was seen as moving in so we went to Vietnam to stop it.

It turned out that Vietnamese communism was about as much of a threat to us as Lawrence Welk was. So we were fearful and zillions of kids died as a result. Now we are killing our kids in the east. Vietnam with sand we veterans of 'Nam like to say. It was bullpoopie then and it is bullpoopie now. Different time. Same bullpoopie. Someday maybe we will say "NO" to warmakers who sit back in air conditioned comfort while our kids die for them.

 

[MorkandMindy]

4 - 6 million +



Destroy the independent development of South East Asian nations - achieved.

Yes, I hadn't heard that one when I started the thread, but whilst some claim it was just the oil

there appears to have also been a political necessity to destroy their development,

and consequently due to the amount of damage done to their country, also their happiness.

 

[MorkandMindy]

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It turned out that Vietnamese communism was about as much of a threat to us as Lawrence Welk was. ...

You mean him?:

But how do you know? He just might be a Communist in disguise?


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[MorkandMindy]

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So we were fearful and zillions of kids died as a result. Now we are killing our kids in the east. Vietnam with sand we veterans of 'Nam like to say. It was bullpoopie then and it is bullpoopie now. Different time. Same bullpoopie. Someday maybe we will say "NO" to warmakers who sit back in air conditioned comfort while our kids die for them.

Our kids are killing them, overall from the entire war we achieved a 75 to 1 kill ratio approximately, so just over 1% of those who died were 'our kids'.

Most of those who died were either peasants we shot in the fields to get the kill ratio up, anyone under an 'Arclight' when it happened, and the people we hired to kill and those they fought, and people shot by our military.

The deaths of our military were less than the error bars on the civilians we killed.