How Many More Years Will Trump Serve As President?

[iluvatar5150]

He was diagnosed how many years after leaving office?

Five and a half.

 

[hislegacy]

• Five and a half.

  
  So when he was in office and the media said he was suffering from Alzheimer’s they were wrong.
  
  Again

 

[iluvatar5150]

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  So when he was in office and the media said he was suffering from Alzheimer’s they were wrong.
  
  Again

Way to move the goal posts. Date of diagnosis is not the date of onset of symptoms.

Ronald Reagan's speeches showed the beginnings of Alzheimer's before diagnosis

How Close Did Lesley Stahl Come to Reporting Reagan Had Alzheimer’s While in Office? Very Close.

 

[mark46]

IMHO, Democrats need to focus on issues and negotiating with McConnell in Congress.

And, yes, Democrats need to focus on winning seats that are close in the election. They need to focus on individual campaigns. IMHO, Democrats can easily win the normal number of House seats, and more, if they stay focused. What happens (and is said) in the safe seats (both sides) is largely irrelevant.

There are lost of Democratic seats up for grabs in the Senate. It will take a lot of work to end up with a majority, but it is possible. The situation in Arizona certainly helps.

Democrats must stop focusing on Donald Trump, except when he does things like Charlottesville and supporting Moore. Mueller, the FBI, Justice and the CIA don't need Democratic help unless McConnell asks for it.

 

[hislegacy]

Way to move the goal posts. Date of diagnosis is not the date of onset of symptoms.

Ronald Reagan's speeches showed the beginnings of Alzheimer's before diagnosis

How Close Did Lesley Stahl Come to Reporting Reagan Had Alzheimer’s While in Office? Very Close.

No goal posts at all they were making the claim during his first year. He was diagnosed until 13 years later.

Give me a break.

 

[mark46]

No goal posts at all they were making the claim during his first year. He was diagnosed until 13 years later.

Give me a break.

???

I am a lifelong Democrat. I believe that Reagan was one of the three best presidents of the 20th century, likely in the top 5 ever. That being said, I believe that Reagan's symptoms were apparent long before 13 years later. They were apparent as early as the last year of his first term.

When Did Reagan's First Signs of Alzheimer's Appear?

Obviously, we don't know what his family and doctors knew. We are only (some trained) observers viewing behavior from afar.

 

[iluvatar5150]

No goal posts at all they were making the claim during his first year.

Got any examples of that?

 

[hislegacy]

If I had the time. Try google news

Here is where you discredit the post because I don’t provide a link.

Got any examples of that?

 

[iluvatar5150]

If I had the time. Try google news

I did, but couldn't find any. All I could find were references to people treating him as kind of slow-witted.

Here is where you discredit the post because I don’t provide a link.

I can't outright prove you're wrong, but I also don't trust you to get your facts correct.

 

[mark46]

OK, Reagan slept at meeting. He was forgetful at times. But, he was NOT slow-witted at any point in his presidency. His doctors have said that they saw him regularly (much more often then Trump) and do NOT believe that he ever stepped over the line and exhibit dementia or early onset.

REAGAN'S TWILIGHT -- A special report.; A President Fades Into a World Apart

To me, it is important to note that Reagan was under continual care. No one made believe that he needed no medical observation.

And, let's be clear, the president was attacked by Democrats for his actions and his policies (as should be the case). There were Iran-Contra hearings. There were discussions of impeachment. Oliver North took the fall for the president.

I did, but couldn't find any. All I could find were references to people treating him as kind of slow-witted.

I can't outright prove you're wrong, but I also don't trust you to get your facts correct.

 

[JGG]

If he has any credibility he we declare himself to have special emergency powers and declare himself Emperor of America before September.

 

[OldWiseGuy]

If he solves the immigration and trade deficit problems I say make him KING!

 

[JGG]

If I had the time. Try google news

Here is where you discredit the post because I don’t provide a link.

'I made a pie-in-the-sky claim, and you're going to say I'm wrong just because I can't provide evidence for it?'

 

[hislegacy]

I can't outright prove you're wrong, but I also don't trust you to get your facts correct.

I feel the same about you.

Here is one difference possibly. I was in my 20’s when Reagan was in office and I remember talking about all the crap the media was saying about him.

When he left office and years later he was diagnosed, they were finallly right.

 

[iluvatar5150]

OK, Reagan slept at meeting. He was forgetful at times. But, he was NOT slow-witted at any point in his presidency. His doctors have said that they saw him regularly (much more often then Trump) and do NOT believe that he ever stepped over the line and exhibit dementia or early onset.

REAGAN'S TWILIGHT -- A special report.; A President Fades Into a World Apart

To me, it is important to note that Reagan was under continual care. No one made believe that he needed no medical observation.

And, let's be clear, the president was attacked by Democrats for his actions and his policies (as should be the case). There were Iran-Contra hearings. There were discussions of impeachment. Oliver North took the fall for the president.

To be clear, I'm not saying he was slow-witted. I'm asking for evidence that there were rumors going around that he had dementia, or more specifically Alzheimers, as early as his first year in office. I'm not saying that didn't happen, but I haven't been able to find evidence of it.

I feel the same about you.

That's why I generally try to provide evidence to back up my claims instead of expecting people to take me at my word, particularly about events that happened 30+ years ago.

 

[mark46]

To be clear, I'm not saying he was slow-witted. I'm asking for evidence that there were rumors going around that he had dementia, or more specifically Alzheimers, as early as his first year in office. I'm not saying that didn't happen, but I haven't been able to find evidence of it.

fair enough

I apologize for any misunderstand or any offense.

 

[mark46]

If he solves the immigration and trade deficit problems I say make him KING!

Solving immigration will need to wait for President Rubio. However, some steps can be taken if enough business leaders make clear to Trump that foreign workers are needed. Yes, there ways to improve the labor participation rate, but Trump doesn't seem to be too interested.

I don't see Trump (or the House) signing the grand bargain which would include changing the immigration system to become primarily merit based, increased legal immigration, stricter visa control, stricter control on businesses hiring illegal workers, and a path to at citizenship for those here.
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We could discuss the trade deficit "problems" in another thread if you wish. I agree with most economists and financial professionals. I don't think that there is deficit "problem". We sometimes have problems with regard to the competitiveness of our corporations and workers. That is rather a different perspective. We do need more training for those who aren't working. We do need accessible childcare and healthcare. We do need to have a STEM workforce that includes more than 15% women. And YES, we needed to reduce the corporate tax rate, and we need to continue to act to make it more advantageous for companies to move to the US (without resorting to tariffs unless there is illegal activity).

 

[Basil the Great]

Most interesting poll here. Considering how low the President's numbers are in the polls now, and have been for months now, I am surprised that 36% think he will run again and be re-elected.

 

[mark46]

Most interesting poll here. Considering how low the President's numbers are in the polls now, and have been for months now, I am surprised that 36% think he will run again and be re-elected.

I guess the idea is that the Russian and financial issues of his staff will go away, and the strong growth of the economy for another 3 years will be enough to keep him in office.

Personally, I don't think that he will want another 4 years. He has already done a lot of what he wanted to do. BTW, I don't say this in jest. He will have made a huge mark on the judicial system, on future economies, and his family's personal fortunes. He has 3 years to build up the military, build his wall and to reform immigration. If he can't do these things in three years, he'll be very frustrated. But four more years won't help.

 

[pat34lee]

Seven as President.
Twenty five as Head Honcho.
'Dictator' just sounds bad.