How many actually want Trump impeached?

Impeach Trump?

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    Votes: 4 16.7%
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    Votes: 20 83.3%

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Mountainmanbob

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Conservatives need an actual good man in office who loves the US Constitution instead of a phoney like Trump.

He has way more love for the US than these dems we see running around showing hatred for our Country.

By far -- he's a star.

M-Bob
 
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He has way more love for the US than these dems we see running around showing hatred for our Country.

By far -- he's a star.

M-Bob
If he actually loved the US he would follow the Constitution instead of trying to stifle the freedom of speech which Americans are guaranteed. He lies about what people say and accuses them of hating the US when they only want what they believe is best for the people.
 
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Is all of this talk of impeachment real?
M-Bob

I'm not convinced that anything Trump has done rises to the level of "high crimes and misdemeanors." I don't buy the Democrats line about obstruction of justice in large part because I'm not convinced that the President is obstructing justice when carrying out the duties of the President. The broader Democrat argument is that Trump is a jerk (largely true), racist (largely not true) and a sexist (probably true) and should therefore be impeached. I think this a slippery slope though, one which would set a precedent for impeachment simply because the party in control of the House doesn't like the current President. It strikes me as very dangerous.

Beyond that, I think it's a huge error for Christians to back this guy in the way they have been. We should be standing for the truth of scripture and we should be willing to call this man out when he behaves in a way that is obviously unbiblical or when he takes policy positions that are contrary to scripture. We should be preaching the gospel to him and every elected official, keeping in mind the very clear teachings of Psalm 2. We're to the point where any criticism of Trump results in Christians launching wicked accusations against other believers, almost all of which are Biblically unfounded. Trump is much like Obama in that he has a significant cult following and unfortunately in Trump's case a lot of his cult following proclaims faith in Jesus Christ.
 
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Is all of this talk of impeachment real?
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My worry is that with Trump facing the prospect of criminal prosecution once he leaves the White House, he is quite capable of creating a constitutional crisis by refusing to accept an election that voted him out of office in 2020 or the findings of an impeachment hearing that it doesn't exonerate him!
 
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My worry is that with Trump facing the prospect of criminal prosecution once he leaves the White House, he is quite capable of creating a constitutional crisis by refusing to accept an election that voted him out of office in 2020 or the findings of an impeachment hearing that it doesn't exonerate him!

Trump doesn't have to accept an election in which he is not victorious. His term ends at noon on January 20th 2021. At that time all the power afforded him under the Constitution evaporates and shifts to someone else. Assuming of course he isn't re-elected in which case you can change the date to 2025. In any event, he can stamp his feet all he wants if he loses the fact is under the constitution he will have no power and he surely doesn't have military support to attempt a coup. This is the US not some South American banana republic.
 
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Why impeach when the economy is doing so well?

Why inpeach when Trump is doing a good job dealing with Iran?

Why impeach when Trump is doing a good job dealing with North Korea?

Why empeach when Trump is doing so well dealing with the border crisis?

M-Bob
 
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Why impeach when the economy is doing so well?

Why inpeach when Trump is doing a good job dealing with Iran?

Why impeach when Trump is doing a good job dealing with North Korea?

Why empeach when Trump is doing so well dealing with the border crisis?

M-Bob

What do any of those issues have to do with whether the President committed a high crime or misdemeanor? The economy could be going gangbusters but if the President is a crook the House is well within its right to impeach him, the two issues aren't related.
 
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The far-left Democrats will keep pushing this nothingburger all the way until 2020, allathe while securing victory, and 4 more years for his Excellency President President Donald J Trump. Lets look at President Trump Accomplishments:

-Great economy, record low employment (especially for the Democrats coveted minorites).

- Less interventionism overseas (instead using soft power to achieve realist goals).

-Pulled out of international agreements like the Paris climate agreement and TPP.

-Renegotiated NAFTA.

-Family paid maternity leave, promoting growth of families.

-Pushing back on the Genocide of Abortion .

-Taking on the opposition in the culture war( instead of just letting the Democrats do all the fighting, and Republicans cowering like under both Bush's).

These are the issues, not the Mueller testimony, which now disappointment the far left wing of the Democrat party. For 2020, the far left wing of the Democrat party instead will kneel during the anthem, push for late term abortion, and partial birth abortion, Radical Antifa terrorism, anti-white reserve discrimination prejudice, Islamic anti-Semitism, mass Globalization in trade, open borders, and ohh yeah the Mueller report conspiracy theory of some "secret Russian takeover of America" that would make the late Senator McCarthy blush.

This Muller flop is Proving the way for victory for President Trump to snatch up the majority of states needed to clutch the nomination through the liberty loving electoral college, permentaly making the Democrats a coastal elitist party, controlled by a ever more extreme millitantly anti-Christian, anti-White, anti-American base.

https://thefederalist.com/2019/07/23/president-trump-lose-5-million-votes-still-win-2020/
 
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Why impeach when the economy is doing so well?

Why inpeach when Trump is doing a good job dealing with Iran?

Why impeach when Trump is doing a good job dealing with North Korea?

Why empeach when Trump is doing so well dealing with the border crisis?

M-Bob

It's because some folks get so hung up in what they perceive to be the difference between "D" and "R", one is good one is bad when they both leave something to be desired :doh:
 
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Is all of this talk of impeachment real?
M-Bob
It's real talk. ;)

But if we want to know how popular the idea of impeachment is, there is one very telling fact--the polls and studies, including the ones that are conducted by diehard opponents of the President, produce this result...

The percentage of people who want impeachment is almost exactly the same as the percentage of those who think he is doing a bad job as president (and who, presumably, will vote for someone else next year).

In other words, when a pollster asks about impeachment, the respondent will say "yes" simply in order to register his disapproval of Trump and avoid appearing to be sympathetic to the President.
 
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The biggest reason for an impeachment investigation is Trump's forcing his employees and former employees to ignore subpoenas ordering them to appear, and his ordering the Justice Department not to respond to any subpoenas for information (e.g. the underlying evidence to the 448 page report that gave many gravely serious reasons for impeachment).

If he was not actively obstructing justice to save himself, going to a formal "impeachment investigation" wouldn't be necessary. But taking this step will make responding to subpoenas for witnesses and information pretty much mandatory.

The Watergate investigation took 10 months. Basically, America needs to learn the truth because we are a nation founded on high ideals, and we must protect those high ideals and the future of our democracy. Many Americans knew he was unfit to serve on January 20, 2017, and we have been waiting patiently as the crushing mountain of evidence is beginning to suffocate us all for the rest of the country to open their eyes.

As the investigations move forward, there will be lots of polls. I don't know how many defectors of conscience will be necessary for Trump's Republican enablers to drain the swamp that their party has become, but we can only pray that they discern enough political cover to do the right thing. All the Republican Party needs is a few good men (or women) to speak out and encourage a critical mass of the rest.
 
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The biggest reason for an impeachment investigation is Trump's forcing his employees and former employees to ignore subpoenas ordering them to appear, and his ordering the Justice Department not to respond to any subpoenas for information (e.g. the underlying evidence to the 448 page report that gave many gravely serious reasons for impeachment).

If he was not actively obstructing justice to save himself, going to a formal "impeachment investigation" wouldn't be necessary. But taking this step will make responding to subpoenas for witnesses and information pretty much mandatory.

The Watergate investigation took 10 months. Basically, America needs to learn the truth because we are a nation founded on high ideals, and we must protect those high ideals and the future of our democracy. Many Americans knew he was unfit to serve on January 20, 2017, and we have been waiting patiently as the crushing mountain of evidence is beginning to suffocate us all for the rest of the country to open their eyes.

As the investigations move forward, there will be lots of polls. I don't know how many defectors of conscience will be necessary for Trump's Republican enablers to drain the swamp that their party has become, but we can only pray that they discern enough political cover to do the right thing. All the Republican Party needs is a few good men (or women) to speak out and encourage a critical mass of the rest.

Mueller said that Trump could still be indicted and charged once he leaves office.

Mueller said Trump could be indicted once he leaves office

Donald Trump Could Face Criminal Charges The Day He Leaves Office

He also mentioned the crimes Trump could still be charged with.

The 5 crimes Mueller suggests Trump could be charged with

And there's the following article excerpt and articles about Trump attempting to obstruct justice.

The special counsel Robert Mueller said in his final report in the Russia investigation that President Donald Trump's "efforts to influence the investigation were mostly unsuccessful," but mostly because his advisers stopped him or refused to carry out his orders. - Mueller says Trump was unsuccessful in influencing the Russia investigation — but mostly because his aides didn't follow orders

Mueller: Trump told his aides to interfere in the investigation, they just didn’t listen

Trump failed at obstruction because his aides refused to carry out orders, Mueller finds
 
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Yes, I dream of him leaving on Air Force 1 on 1/20/2021, learning the FBI is waiting to arrest him in NY, and diverting the flight to the Ecuadorian Embassy in London where Julian Assange can explain the intricacies of two thumb tweets and spell check.
 
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