How locked down/mandated are you - October 15, 2021

What level of lockdown/mandates are you living under today.

  • Full Lockdown

    Votes: 1 2.6%
  • Mask Mandate in public

    Votes: 3 7.9%
  • Mask required in retail and restaurants

    Votes: 9 23.7%
  • Vaccine requirement to enter retail or restaurant

    Votes: 3 7.9%
  • Limited entry - half capacity

    Votes: 1 2.6%
  • no mask mandates

    Votes: 2 5.3%
  • Very limited restrictions

    Votes: 16 42.1%
  • no restrictions whatsoever

    Votes: 11 28.9%

  • Total voters
    38
  • Poll closed .

pacomascarot

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If not drinking alcohol will effectively save 480,000 lives a year, every year, why not completely end the sales of alcohol? Banning alcohol would be 100% effective in saving lives, and we are out only a mild inconvenience.

Interesting comparison.

It is, however, possible to drink alcohol but not to such an extent that it kills you. But it is, technically speaking, a poison.

You probably SHOULD have the right to drink poison if you wish.

The real issue is what if your drinking causes danger to others? This is the best comparison. Indeed there are scenarios where YOUR ingestion of alcohol can harm OTHERS. And interestingly enough we have laws that cover that very thing meaning it is currently ILLEGAL FOR YOU TO THREATEN THE LIVES OF OTHERS DUE TO YOUR INTOXICATION!

It is currently illegal for you to drive under the influence!

So, yeah, your example is spot on! I agree with your example! If your actions can harm others then you should be disallowed from taking those actions!

Just like drunk driving!

You can kill yourself however you like, but you are not allowed to endanger others!

Good call, Legacy! Good call!
 
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Why are they canceling folks who say masks do not prevent you from getting or giving the virus?

found this from 4/2020
Will face coverings 'flatten the curve' and stop the pandemic?
We have reviewed the many modeling studies that purport to demonstrate that cloth masks or face coverings have the potential for flattening the curve or significantly decrease the number of cases. These studies fail to recognize several important facts:

  • The filter performance of a cloth material does not directly translate or represent its performance on an individual, because it neglects the understanding of fit.
  • Cloth masks or coverings come in a variety of shapes, sizes, and materials and are not made according to any standards.
  • Transmission is not simply a function of short random interactions between individuals, but rather a function of particle concentration in the air and the time exposed to that concentration.
  • A cloth mask or face covering does very little to prevent the emission or inhalation of small particles. As discussed in an earlier CIDRAP commentary and more recently by Morawska and Milton (2020) in an open letter to WHO signed by 239 scientists, inhalation of small infectious particles is not only biologically plausible, but the epidemiology supports it as an important mode of transmission for SARS-CoV-2, the virus that causes COVID-19
COMMENTARY: Masks-for-all for COVID-19 not based on sound data

Really hard to find current reporting on whether masks help other than the cdc narrative

IMHO it is all about control of the masses

"conspiracy theorists" now equates to heretic

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1religion : a person who differs in opinion from established religious dogma (see DOGMA sense 2)especially : a baptized member of the Roman Catholic Church who refuses to acknowledge or accept a revealed truthThe church regards them as heretics.
2: one who differs in opinion from an accepted belief or doctrine : NONCONFORMIST

Definition of HERETIC
Because it is a lie.
 
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Interesting comparison.

It is, however, possible to drink alcohol but not to such an extent that it kills you. But it is, technically speaking, a poison.

You probably SHOULD have the right to drink poison if you wish.

The real issue is what if your drinking causes danger to others? This is the best comparison. Indeed there are scenarios where YOUR ingestion of alcohol can harm OTHERS. And interestingly enough we have laws that cover that very thing meaning it is currently ILLEGAL FOR YOU TO THREATEN THE LIVES OF OTHERS DUE TO YOUR INTOXICATION!

It is currently illegal for you to drive under the influence!

So, yeah, your example is spot on! I agree with your example! If your actions can harm others then you should be disallowed from taking those actions!

Just like drunk driving!

You can kill yourself however you like, but you are not allowed to endanger others!

Good call, Legacy! Good call!

Very good, how would you feel about penalties if you get someone infected if you are not wearing a mask?
 
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Very good, how would you feel about penalties if you get someone infected if you are not wearing a mask?

That's a tough one. Just like drunk driving, though, I don't think you need to actually kill someone to get the penalty.

In drunk driving you can be pulled over for being drunk behind the wheel. That's because they are trying keep you from hurting someone else.
 
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Here in Ohio, it's not that stringent at the moment.

Obviously there are mask requirements for hospitals, and to get into an airport.

But as far as average day to day stuff? Nothing much really (apart from a private business that chooses to enforce something)


Pretty much business as usual...

Still 100% WAH for me, but don't view that so much as a restriction, as I do a liberation from the tyranny of pants.
 
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