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Featured How Hard Determinism turns God into the devil and Grace into a myth.

Discussion in 'Controversial Christian Theology' started by Grip Docility, Jul 17, 2019.

  1. Neogaia777

    Neogaia777 Apprentice Supporter

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    You know, I used to be a JW, a long, long time ago... I would not be welcomed there anymore... Not that I would want to go back anyway, but just saying...

    Tell me I don't know Him...

    They do not... They do not even know the God they worship, but I do... And He knows me, and we know each other... Just tell me that I don't...

    Tell me that I don't know "Them", for that is also where JW's fail and fall short also...

    God Bless!
     
  2. Grip Docility

    Grip Docility Well-Known Member

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    As you well know, I have engaged in writing speculative theology that identifies How God endowed Free Will and fostered it, while simultaneously being Infinitely Omniscient.

    However, I have begun to find peace in simply saying that it is precisely because of God’s Infinite Omniscience that we can be assured our human experience is Autonomously genuine and rationally relational with God.

    All Love in Jesus Christ to you.
     
  3. Mark Quayle

    Mark Quayle Well-Known Member Supporter

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    That all assumes the one "will" you are referencing is his eternal plan, as opposed to his given command. There's a huge difference.
     
  4. Neogaia777

    Neogaia777 Apprentice Supporter

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    What "command"...? To Love...? I don't see what that has to do with it or what I was saying or talking about...?

    God Bless!
     
  5. Mark Quayle

    Mark Quayle Well-Known Member Supporter

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    I'm sorry. I thought it was rather obvious.

    You said it is impossible to go against God's will. I agree, if by that you are referring to his eternal plan. But it is obvious we go against his will (his command) every day.

    To conflate the two causes quite a bit of confusion and consternation and even provides some unbelievers with reason to mock believers. In fact, one of the side issues is related to this confusion, wherein a person wonders how it can be possible for God to be Love, and yet the most horrible things imaginable happens to people "who never deserved it." including God wiping out whole nations.

    I have even heard from mockers and believers alike that "if this is God's will" then "I am being obedient by disobeying."
     
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